A_Traveller

Oddly or not the people really involved in the events, seem to have different opinions from those who seem to revel in her death, fine wine or not, FW de Klerk has just said "Although she [baroness Thatcher] was always a steadfast critic of apartheid, she had a much better grasp of the complexities and geo-strategic realities of South Africa than many of her contemporaries. ... more could be achieved through constructive engagement with the South African government than through draconian sanctions and isolation. She also understood the need to consider the concerns and aspirations of all South Africans in their search for constitutional consensus.

For this reason she was able to play a positive role in supporting our own process of non-racial constitutional transformation in South Africa. From my first meeting with her in London after my election as leader of the National Party in 1989 and throughout the rest of her tenure as Prime Minister, she gave strong and valued to support to me and to all other leaders who were working for a peaceful, prosperous, and constitutional future for South Africa."

But what does he know.

The moderate elements having their kneecaps shot off by the Provos (and, to be fair, similar on the Unionist side) played no part in it, then?

I doubt that there is evidence for this. This form of violence was (is) used against people who were suspected to be criminals, not against those republicans who differed in their political views towards engaging with unionists or the British government.

The point is that through Thatcher's policies republicans were further radicalised which played well into hands of those with an interest in suppressing the more moderates.

Have to say without going too far off topic that "punishments" including kneecapping were undertaken by the IRA against those who "disobeyed". or were viewed as politically/militarily unsound. Indeed to avoid being shown to be in breach of the Mitchell Agreements Mo Molem took the view that the IRA had breached the cease fire [in part with punishments] but the cessation as a whole had not broken down and no sanctions were taken against Sinn Fein.

Also there were a number of secret communications to try and establish a way forward for resolution. Some of this is only becoming public knowledge recently care of the 30 year rule.

Am I alone in suffering from Deja Vu? I seem to remember this happening before, but can't recall if it's the same "invisible" casino.

Anyone else have a better memory?

@Airconsult I wonder if you have a view as to why the airport so rapidly started to look, for want of a better term, "worm beyond its years".

I agree it's not bad but it doesn't feel "new" or fresh, say compared to HK or even KL locally.

By the by and off topic but since it was raised, those with an historical grasp may recall that said "dead sheep" used his resignation speech to set in train the events which led to the demise of Margaret Thatcher's term as Prime Minister.

Some sheep, who effectively succeed in doing what said Labour Chancellor [Denis Healey, in reality a long time friend of Geoffrey Howe] failed so to do.

The Great Wall company produces mid-size (? guess where you are from) SUV's and pick-ups.

One has to say looking at the image above for Thailand I'd take a look at Thai Rung who seem to be in the business of producing a very strange SUV compared to the Great Wall models imagery/data on the web.

In most territories they are sold just as were Japanese, then Korean vehicles as value for money [not for their dynamics or to be honest looks] and a level of dependability.

It's sad to see more "same as" type vehicles but no too surprising.

Just to add they are currently sold in Malaysia and I believe other countries in the region as well as the EU.

Thanks for the responses, and thaicbr for links.

Agree it's not simple given the insulation issues but depending on goals an option to include in planning. Interesting to see the "PortaKabin" style here as well.

Maybe this should read Chalerm doesn't recall meeting with Thaksin. Ear medication apparently has a deleterious effect on memory, so I'm led to believe..

Google it. Fairly expensive in Thailand. They export more than import.

A few places down on the eastern seaboard.

I was thinking about it but found other modular ideas.

There is a company that do knock down container's here in Thailand.

Hi,

Was thinking about the container option as well, but the container price seemed disproportionate however, would be interested in your "other modular ideas" if you'd care to share.

Regards

Just to be a pedant he was not an elected official at that time, he was constitutionally a caretaker PM with no mandate. As to extradition, probably not, but if a serious infraction came to light with his involvement then all bets would be off. The tragedy in the South is viewed by some opponents of him and his clique as a possible Achilles heel.

But realistically I think not, but his position is not as bulletproof as some would have people believe.

To expand on this there are real legal and constitutional issues raised by his apparent flouting of the representational requirement and the organic law on the management of political parties. In my view and I am not alone there are possible charges that could be levelled, but as in a number of outstanding matters against him they would be difficult, under the existing and historic legal process to commence without his presence in Thailand.

Ground Floor past Starbucks - >McDonald's -> next to a Gold Shop [not a red one ] on the external side. Looking at the MBK Map probably shop 18-07 or 18-08.

@ Alfredo. The time line was I typed the original which was my honest recollection at 14:54. Once I had saved this I subsequently saw a new post from KRS1 at 15:05 stating that he know the case and the people so I amended my post at 15.06 to reflect that. Interesting someone came in held a copy of my original post and then choose to use that subsequently firstly at I presume at 15:17.

In other words the section in brackets was added not REMOVED.

I trust that is now clear.

The office is the Department of Intellectual Property part of the Ministry of Commerce. [ipthailand.go.th] Hotline 1368

Now the bad news, Thailand is only a partial signatory for IP protection and ultimately you may find it better to apply for protection elsewhere [under WIPO - wipo.int] and have Thailand as a specified country for ,manufacturing protection.

Regards

Thanks for update, may explain my Ajax issues as well I guess, but they've been happening for a few days.

@Betteljuice try my post and threads linked thereto, trust this helps.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/628326-british-man-trapped-in-thailand-for-four-years-is-back-home/page-4#entry6239275

Have to concur, the site has been very problematic for me since around 17:00 through to 19:00.

I am still trying to figure out ZZ. 175 posts in 3 days must be some kind of record.

On that point one wonders that in past time they would be the ones in the bundle of letters written in crayon.

There also is the odd comment I came across about apparently the police not being able to provide the arresting officer as a witness. Don't know the detail on that but in many jurisdictions such a failure, unless for the most compelling of reasons, would cause considerable damage to a case.

Yes that is on balance true the trick being used here is to use the Judge's statement outside the court to raise the possibility of an enquiry which as noted before could have been used in another case after public statements of Judges involved.

There were very detailed threads on this case back in January.

Link 1. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/612296-embattled-brit-lee-chestnutt-forced-to-stay-in-thailand/

and his Singaporean partner

Link 2. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/613601-singaporean-suffering-the-same-fate-as-lee-chestnutt-thailand/

As to stories, my recollection was that the case was raised by a police officer as land lord, however I see herein that someone who claims knowledge of this says it was a police officer's son. I don't know and didn't claim to.

My view then as now was that by using Criminal Charges this placed the pair in considerable difficulty and made leaving problematic, To be fair many countries would treat the situation where a non national is charged with a crime [not a civil matter] that allowing the national to leave the jurisdiction would be unwise or unlikely [at least one is referred to in the threads]. It is interesting to note that even after the final appeal was rejected there were hurdles to cross including according to the Straits Times the payment of the maximum visa overstay fine.

If it's the paper I recall [mid-'11] I was puzzled about the singular focus on just the Central World complex [or more precisely Zen]. Despite being full of bourgeois comments and the city-nation-state it oddly omitted to mention any of the other arson or violent attacks, such as the SET [which might even factor into his argument], actions outside Bangkok such as the city hall attacks [which don't] let alone the other destruction which occurred.

The other odd thing to me was the presentation of the bucolic nature of the protesters, almost as if the gentle, possibly wise, country folk feeling out of place in the urban monstrosity could not possible have had the technical or even planning skills to contemplate such an act. Even ignoring the inherent insulting nature of such a presentation [though that I suspect that was not the author's intention] the result is a patchwork of oddly out of time contemplations with little data.

The problem is there are legitimate questions about what happened and how the fire got such a hold. Not saying there are not, and ideally the time-lines and knowledge should be laid out for all to see. However, these questions do not negate the position that there is little substantive evidence at this time that shows another narrative. All that is shown are apparent inconsistencies which are highlighted without giving space for the consistencies. [this is like the actions of the 911 "truthers"]

However the recent Thai PBS programme suggests that the present government is no less enthusiastic to enter into the fray if it suits their purposes, since the national police chief will review the entire five-part Tob Jote series aired on Thai PBS since the programme has attracted a huge public interest and the issue has ramifications on national security, police have appointed a team of 50 investigators led by Pol Gen Chatchawan Suksomjit, and Pol Lt Gen Saritchai Anekwiang as deputy investigator. Police from stations across the country will be instructed to accept complaints filed by members of the public.

There are those who take the view and they are normally staunch present government supporters with a disdain for "the other lot", that a public process of lese majeste vilification is under-way. The police, who work under the direction of the government, are engaging in an “investigation” that is repressive and reactionary.