AmySeeker

28 minutes ago, polpott said:

So why do countries who have been the most successful at containing and reducing Covid lock their borders?

As far as i can see Samut Sakhon is not locked up from the outside world. I know people who have been to that area and are in Bangkok now. 

2 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Most walk-ins are still in Samut Sakorn - showing just how widespread it is. If there was "community spread" across Bangkok, the numbers would be much higher. 

 The virus doesn't have borders. 

For reassurance - a simple huge mass test of the Bangkok city to check for how much of the covid test is around.

Something like 100,000 mass tests in a day (which is pretty standard for most countries now) - would give you a sample barometer of anything sinister going around. 

If you only pick up 1 or 2 cases then you can move on back to the current method of only testing the majority if they present themselves to a hospital. 

Locking down coming .... 

On 2/2/2021 at 3:01 AM, bkkcanuck8 said:

I doubt the UK will rejoin in a few years... unless there is clear support from a broad range of people and politicians... Even then, there will be no appetite to go through this again with the UK... so it will be a long drawn out process if the UK ever does want to rejoin...  The UK will just have to learn how to adjust for the foreseeable future...

That ship has sailed. The vaccine fiasco just finalised that. 

The economy of the UK will have to change - but it will take time. 

55 minutes ago, polpott said:

The root cause of the latest outbreak was porus borders, not interstate travel. Thailand closed its borders very early in the pandemic and quickly moved to state quarantine when they realised that self quarantine didn't work. However, the UK has only just decided to close its borders a year in and then not completely and relying on home quarantine. When the responsible minister, Matt Handcock, was asked about state quarantine he replied that it was logistically impossible. So Thailand has achieved the impossible and the UK government fiddles whilst England burns.

 

Try getting your own house in order before you criticise Thailand.

You clearyl have little clue how this works. You can whinge about porous borders, and blame them - but once the virus is in Thailand, it will spread. 

People acting like this virus has borders and will remain in Samut Sakhon are insane. 

1 minute ago, rabas said:

What is the UK tests per positive case?

800,000 tests - around 20,000 positive. But a few weeks ago the UK was having up to 60,000 cases a day ! 

29 minutes ago, polpott said:

I'm only really interested in Pattaya so focus my attention on Pattaya and Chonburi. The YouTube channel gives me regular updates on testing locally and all things Covid. Lots of testing in Pattaya however they haven't found a single case of Covid in Banglamung (Pattaya) for more than 2 weeks now. Why? Because there isn't any in this area.

 

In my village in the UK I knew of 2 people who had died of Covid and I heard yesterday that a friend, who I have known since my youth, has died of Covid after being in hospital for 3 short days. I know of many more people who have contracted Covid and survived, including my own daughter and son in law. I don't know of anyone in Thailand who has had Covid let alone died of it.

 

Rather than cover up from embarrasment your own country's inability to control Covid by denying Thailand's undoubtable success, I think myself lucky and privileged to have been able to ride out the pandemic by staying in Thailand.

The virus doesn't just stay in one area though.

With people now allowed to come to Pattaya they will bring the cases over. Then we head for another shutdown. 

25 minutes ago, polpott said:

I'm only really interested in Pattaya so focus my attention on Pattaya and Chonburi. The YouTube channel gives me regular updates on testing locally and all things Covid. Lots of testing in Pattaya however they haven't found a single case of Covid in Banglamung (Pattaya) for more than 2 weeks now. Why? Because there isn't any in this area.

 

In my village in the UK I knew of 2 people who had died of Covid and I heard yesterday that a friend, who I have known since my youth, has died of Covid after being in hospital for 3 short days. I know of many more people who have contracted Covid and survived, including my own daughter and son in law. I don't know of anyone in Thailand who has had Covid let alone died of it.

 

Rather than cover up from embarrasment your own country's inability to control Covid by denying Thailand's undoubtable success, I think myself lucky and privileged to have been able to ride out the pandemic by staying in Thailand.

Update UK carried out nearly 800,000 tests in one day yesterday.  

Anyone have any update on how many tests were done yesterday in Thailand? I assume the figure will be extremely low. 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing

What is appalling is even Malaysia is doing more testing than Thailand. 

So 45 came to hospital to get tested. 

Until there is mass testing in the community we won't really know how severe the virus is circulating. But in all probability with the proximity of Bangkok to Sak - you can be pretty sure it has spread. 

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 

And what percentage of the thousands of condos in Thailand are occupied by Chinese nationals or any foreigners for tar that matter?

 

What percentage are owned by foreign individuals?

 

Gentrification (as I understand it) is when the rich move into poor neighborhoods and drive out the poor. I'm not seeing that. 

 

 

 

I'm in lower Sukhumvit. All the way down Sukhumvit, great neighbourhoods all gone, street food, vendors, the heartbeat of Bangkok all gone for condos. I walk past those condos now, speak to the doormen, they're all empty. 

It's gentrification - when the street food vendor 2 mins from me, making some of the most amazing breakfasts i've ever had is kicked away, and in place we get a modern condo, and on the bottom floor a Burger King. 

Horrific numbers. By now it surely has spread into neighbouring cities. 

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I do not think Bangkok is "gentrifying". Wealthy people are not moving to Bangkok and displacing the poor, the poor are becoming more affluent. 

More like foreign investment - Chinese in particular. 

Go see how many empty condos there are out there now. 

4 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I've read there are up to 400,000 (possibly 600,000) and about 60,000 Thais on wikipedia.

600,000 / 800 = 750 days

So factoring in herd immunity (and google scienitfic knowledge) it will take 6 months to achieve herd immunity in that area. 

Then you have to hope it doesn't spread - yet markets in that area are open, etc 

Just how many of these migrant workers are in Samut Sakhon ? 

A few hundred thousand? 5-10 thousand? HOW MANY ?

Because this 800 plus has been going on for a while now. 

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Does it swallow? 

No. It spits it out with more condos. 

Used to love Bangkok, before the sanitization and gentrification started in the last 5 years.

All the great neighbourhoods, markets, street food all gone and replaced by pointless Chinese backed condos. 

Gentrification sucks