Lomsakboy

Pinocchio has spoken.

Try to contact Eagle Movers Thailand. 

Officially, an export permit must be issued for all paintings. It doesn't matter if you have painted them yourself or if they have been bought. Stupid law, but it is the law. Price on making these can be very high all depend on which company you choose. Some are greedier than others. Or you can make these yourself at The Fine Art Office in Bangkok. Can also be made in Phuket and Chiang Mai.

So now lockdown. (yet)

You can only obtain an exemption from import duty if you comply with certain criteria. One of these for foreigners is the original passport and Visa when your shipment arrives, as well as a work permit if you have one. But even with this, it is not certain that one can get it freely into Thailand. But 1 thing is sure they don't always follow the rules stated on the internet.
Even that the Thai custom are strict then they are not that tough to deal with, as long as you know how to speak to them and know a little about the customs rules. Not to forget a little smile.

39 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

Your first point is incorrect.  Oak is a controlled wood in several countries, including Thailand, that is, a duty is payable and the wood cannot be traded without a licence, even as furniture .  We were told that duty would have been payable if we could not prove that the oak furniture we were importing was our personal household furniture. 

 

https://www.forest-trends.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/FT4307D_ThaiShortReport_R5_WEB061119.pdf

Again, there is no import tax on oak furniture and you don't need import permit either. Your agent or moving company didn't do a good job if you had to pay import tax on your personal oak furniture stated on the packing list. Also, why write oak? Just furniture is enough. We do import/ export on a daily basis, so I should know. There is on Teak wood furniture and some other woods. But why state this on the packing list. Then there are some varieties of wood that you can't import. 

13 hours ago, Pilotman said:

If you have a Thai wife she can import personal goods items tax free as a  returning citizen, you however cannot and depending on what you are intending to import, you could be subject to duty, for example, on controlled wood furniture such as oak, electrical goods, jewellery etc .  My friend, who also shipped his household goods to Thailand, nothing new, all used, was charged 180,000 Baht import tax on his personal goods. Best to get a Bangkok based agent to arrange it all for you, they can substantially reduce any duty liability by negotiation with customs. 

There is no import tax on oak furniture.

Who are stupid enough to put their jewelry in the shipping container?

Even if you send in your Thai wife's name, there may be import tax if e.g., there is more than 1 electrical object of each kind, like 1 TV etc. Even if you send in your Thai wife's name, there are a number of criteria that must be met. One thing is her period of stay outside Thailand. Another is that if she has a new passport, then Thai customs also demands a copy of the old one. These are the 2 most important things to keep in mind.

Under normal circumstances there will also be import tax on bicycles and anything with an engine on. Or whatever these Thai customs officers find as luxury goods. Sometimes one can’t stop smiling on what they see as luxury goods. Therefor we always tell people to put the value on the packing list low as possible and even if 2 or more TV, then only 1 TV on the packing list, because the charges are 30% of the value plus 7% VAT.

Under normal circumstances there are only people with work permit, Diplomats and returning Thai citizens, who would be able to get their stuff in without paying import duties. But then again, it all depends on the packing list and the Thai customs mood.

It is always a good idea to find a good agent for custom clearance, if your moving company/ agent at origin not have a partner here in Thailand. But they normally have.

Negotiation with customs. No problem with that.

32 minutes ago, suzannegoh said:

350% increase?  So then about a million baht to sent a 20ft container of household goods from Thailand to the US?

Where have I written THB 1 million. Should have said up to 350% to some destination. couple of sample on increase to United States is to port Seattle, WA. on a 20ft. the sea freight increase has gone up by THB 120,000 in approx. 1 year and to Terminal Atlanta GA. the same.  But all depending on destination address in United States, it could cost around THB 500,000 door to door and with everything included with todays freight rates. Hopefully this stop soon and the rates will get back to more normal prices. But I doubt it. 

13 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Wonder how much it would cost to ship everything from Thailand back to Europe, if that day ever comes. That could be quite interesting as many things are cheaper here, I could add some nice teak wood furniture to it as well, and sell some back home.

 

But every time I calculated, I had to conclude it is cheaper to just buy brand new stuff in both countries (specially if you used it for like 3-5 years).

Right now price on any shipments has gone sky high to to the pandemic and shortage of container. Depend on where too, then the increase has gone up by 350% on a container. Especially to some destination in Europe and United States are very high these days. But all destinations has gone up. It might go down to something like normal again in Q3. But I will see that before I believe this. 

5 hours ago, sirineou said:

We looked at shipping a 20 ft container from our home in Florida to our home in Khon Kaen, , we decided that for the shipping cost cost , we can buy all new stuff in Thailand.

So we shared a container .

Wife , through a FB Thai group she belongs in found this Thai shipping company, who drives Through Florida once a month with a big truck , collects  the boxes from the different houses, puts them all I a container, ships them to Thailand, and then delivers them to the different locations. 

Cost : $140 per 24"x18x18 box.   My lawn mower was $300 (threw some other things in the box also) 

I shipped all of our personal , clothing  , and my kitchen stuff in 6 boxes, plus lawn mower for $1,140

 

Shipped last week. It takes two months to get there, so we gave it a head start, we wave tickets to fly there for May 4

so we should get there a couple of weeks before it. If we are delayed they can keep it in their Wearhouse for a while free of charge. 

If you ship in your Thai wife name, then original passport, Thai ID and the Thai house book (tabien Baan) will be required for custom clearance. Without this, there will be import tax on your shipment. If in your name, then original passport and Visa will be required to obtain tax/ duty relief on the shipment. Again this all depend on what is listened on the packing list and the mood of Thai Customs. Also, if stored at port it will not be free, can get 7 days free if your agent in FL asked for this when they shipped out. 

Forbidden wood such as Teak wood, Paduak wood need export permit and you need to paid export taxes.

Forbidden wood timber/sheet not allow to export, only furniture/ statues/ images etc. can get export permit.

Not forbidden wood such as mango wood, tamarind wood, no need export permit and no tax.

Phayung Wood (Siamese Rosewood) not allowed export.

Export taxes can be high as 40% + Vat7% of value.

16 minutes ago, VBF said:

As a newbie, you have much to learn...you're starting on the right track though. ????

Newbie in here. You are right. But I have been coming here in Thailand since 1987 on holidays, twice a year and lived here for 13 years. So, yes I am a Newbie.

Thailand lives in a fantasy world

4 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

I know that if you qualify for the household goods exemption there is no duty.  It is unclear if the OP or his Thai gf will qualify.  The Thai customs web site is quite clear about the circumstances required to qualify for that exemption.

 

In my case, Boonma seemed inclined to be even more strict than the specifications on the website.  When I quoted the web site to them, they said it was out of date.  When I asked for a clarification they bobbed and weaved away from answering.  I'm guessing they preferred to maintain some mystique about the process of clearing customs to show that they're needed.

The Thai Customs website is not out of date. What the website says and what they do are 2 completely different things. They (Thai customs) do as it suits them.

There are a number of things that must be complied with before you can get it in without paying any duties. Most of this is stated on their website. Rest they will tell you. They have their own rules ???? 

If Thai wife/ GF and she has been outside Thailand for 1 year or more and if nothing special is on the packing list, then she should get it in without paying anything. But to obtain this Thai Customs would need original passport and Thai ID card and Tabien Baan. (Thai house book) Even then there is no guarantee. 

Also, what they see as luxury goods is a joke. 100% that you will pay duties on luxury goods. Used clothes are not one of them. Normally bicycles are. ???? 

14 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

Who told you there isn't any duty on clothes? There is. 

I am dealing with shipping FCL and LCL every day and I know that there is no duty what so ever on clothes. If you import new for business then there is. If part of personal items/ moving goods, there is not.

On 2/19/2021 at 9:15 PM, Yellowtail said:

Contact a freight forwarder in Bangkok and provide them with a packing list and invoice and they should be able to give you a quote.

 

The crate is strong, yes? A box that size with nonperishables you want to ship LTL sea freight.

 

Your invoice should be clear and accurate.

 

Duty on cloths is very high.

Who told that there are duty on clothes? There isn't. 

Not sure about MoveCube.

No problem to ship in your Thai partner’s name. Before the shipment arrive, The Thai Customs would need copy of her passport, copy of her Thai ID card and Tabien Baan. (Thai house book) upon arrival The Thai Customs would need these as original. Also, needed would be a packing list with value. Please put this low as possible., because even when returning Thai citizen, The Thai Customs will find a way to let her pay some sort of money. 1 important thing is that, please only state 1 electric item of each on the packing list.

The owner of the goods has never imported goods into Thailand (returning citizens). The owner of the goods must be in the origin country at least 365 days (returning citizens).

Also, please find a good moving company/ agent who knows about Thai Customs law and have license to make custom clearance.

These generals live in a fantasy world.

I think there is quite a few officials missing. Missing the Swat team. Why are they not there????? My Buddha all those people just to do check. They just love it.