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On 3/30/2021 at 3:03 PM, Pilotman said:

Just face the truth, the Thais don't give a monkeys about the environment, or how their actions negatively  impact other people, or indeed themselves and their families, they are clueless. They don't care, they never will care and it will never stop.   

Which is why I will never live here , visit yes in high season to our condo but the rest of the year the lure of 'green' UK is to be much preferred. 

Job done painless as well. at Hua Heng Seng. Your comments about the beauty of their ingots is spot on ! The place was very busy and the value of cash and gold on the premises was phenomenal.

8 minutes ago, Dazinoz said:

As I said the experience from others can also help. A guy from Chiang Rai posted a similar post to yours. I told my experience and he ended up saving a lot of money on commissions in Chiang Rai. He was buying 40 baht gold bars.

 

But if you don't see people experiences don't help then don't ask on these forums.

Apologies if my comment appeared off hand it certainly  wasn't my intention. Your comment was very helpful and informative and thankyou for making the effort.

30 minutes ago, Dazinoz said:

If you were in Chiang Mai i could recommend a dealer that does not charge a commission on buying or selling gold bars 5 baht and above. Commission for below 5 baht has been 200baht/baht, although I have sold a 1 bar bar on 2 separate occasions lately and not charged a commission. I walk in and buy or sell with cash and need to show nothing. I sold a 1 baht bar at a dealer in a Big C complex the other day and I had to show ID, they tried to melt the bar and filed it and I had to sign for the cash.

 

Sorry I can t help for Bangkok just giving my experience to maybe help with yours. If you show you don't know much, like the first time I sold, you can be hit up for big commissions. Shop around for commissions if charged. You cant bargain the price of the gold itself only the commission if charged.

 

 

Thanks for that they maybe helpful to anyone considering buying in Chiang Mai. Not really a fan of gold as a personal 'investment' as it only really comes into it's own when things are getting really broken when it my be fortuitous to have a gun !

According to Google its Hua Hen Seng a log established Chinse gold dealer.

https://www.huasengheng.com/

My wife wants to buy a couple of 5 baht gold bars in Chinatown. Does anybody know the best shop to go to and how do they accept payment ? Can you just walk in and buy off the street ?

They pretty much do it's called 'The Agent's Visa'. 

The diminshed MyPillow money will only go so far. Corporates and international companies won't touch him with a bargepole and that means devotees will have to stump up hard earned cash or it will be doomed to failure. Social media it won't be. Another money losing scam doomed to failure thank the lord. 

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Until then.... they are a great and well priced service. Hope they don't start delivering pizzas. 

They have grown the market arguably at the expense of baht buses and motorbike taxis. 

On 3/17/2021 at 3:28 AM, scubascuba3 said:

If no chanote then yes

What then did some of these long established 'owners' actually have ? Sounds like nothing. Having spent a few minutes googling the results are astonishing and very surprising anyone would have invested given that level of uncertainty. 

7 hours ago, Leaver said:

And when Bolt gets corrupted in the same way Grab did?

I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Anyway we are back to the UK in a couple of weeks. Bolt started taking 25% of a very low fare at the end of January (it had been all the fare going to the drivers for the first 6 months) so we have always tipped well and taken the phone numbers of good drivers to hire directly for longer journeys. That said it has been fantastic to get good cars on demand cheaply anywhere in Pattaya rather than relying solely on the baht buses or getting into fruitless arguments with the taxi mafia over price. 

16 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Surely time to ready the drones and take out these out of control killers ????

In this instance agreed - would put the real shiits in them. 

Terrible news but comfort to the Thai Junta should many years of economic depression break the social contract in Thailand then they could almost certainly hang onto power with the gun. Thailand will never see true democracy sadly. 

16 hours ago, Megasin1 said:

The beginning of return to the New normal, a 2 tiered global society where the vaccinated will drive the economy and the unvaccinated will dwindle and be sidelined. The vaccinated will travel between vaccinated countries freely, the unvaccinated will not. Countries with a poor vaccination rate will suffer currency downgrades and economic failure and unrest. The new normal is coming and frankly, after suffering long lock downs and restrictions will it bother those that can travel freely, not in the slightest. There are plenty of countries with sunshine and beaches, vaccinate your population and reap the benefits, like cheaper insurance, freedom of movement, cheaper flights etc. The airlines will rapidly realise that those vaccinated do not wish to mingle in any way with the unvacccinated. Welcome to the New World order.

Good it's the triumph of science. I for on can't wait to get back to the UK and get the jab along with my wife which will be in the next month. I've have enough of this damn thing and if the vaccine unlocks benefits and protects me for this scourge all well and good. 

On 3/13/2021 at 5:28 PM, moontang said:

I had a perfect room last week, but the dogs, moto mob, and one songtaew driver tried to ruin it.  And those sidewalks are all torn up, too.  S Pattaya Rd is kind of weird in that regard.  That last 1 km is just disgusting.  My next trip I am going to be right on the Baht bus line, and close to good shopping, as well as a 15 minute walk to the bus station... No pool at this hotel, but I think the convenience will pay off.  I despise the orange vested clowns.  I don't even want them to think I need a ride.  Got a mob of about 20 on my soi, fortunately, I am very close to the main Rd, One 650cc mini songtaew could eliminate the entire stinking gang.. but that would be common sense. 

Crikey that's some rant just download the Bolt app and you're sorted. 

Sorry to hear of your loss - Pattaya is in dire straits at the moment let's hope it rises from this nadir soonest.

I'll just file this under "things I didn't know I needed to worry about so I won't category". 

Thanks for the heads up we are thinking of going back in April. As I see it now you need to book a PCR test in Thailand 72 hours before you fly - book and pay for the UK government two tests for home quarantine and then two single fares back (by Thai Airways for us - worried about hotel quarantine coming in for non direct flights that pool 'Red' country passengers. 

If one of us were to test positive then we would probably lose the lot and be detained in Thailand at a medical facility at our own expense until we tested negative. Our covid insurance ran out at the three month mark this week can anyone recommend any covid insurance that would cover the return scenario. 

6 hours ago, khunPer said:

Just a point of view: I would not try a route with a internal sales of 1/5th or less of the real value, it could later hit hard back if someone get suspicious. 

 

Land office's appraised price for tax purposes might in some cases be far out compared to actual sales prices, and the text for land sales tax talks about appraised value or sales price, whichever is highest. There is a tax-calculator HERE.

Thanks we are considering backing away from this hornet's nest family wise though as far as I know you can sell land to a friend or family for any value you choose and as far as I know the dependents are entitled at that point to the share of the sale price at that point. The land offices assessment is completely independent and as far as they are concerned if the appraised value is higher and the resultant fair market value tax is levied appropriately and paid then they have no issue whether an intra family transaction is conducted at below market value. (I would have thought !).

16 hours ago, khunPer said:

When not having a last will the order after Thai law, according to the book "Thai Law for foreigners" is that half of the estate goes to the spouse, and half of the estate to children (if any).

 

As the land is already shared between two owners, A's share of the land is 50%, of which half goes to the spouse, and the other half divided between A's three children; i.e. the children are sharing 25% of the value of the property.

 

You need to consult a lawyer for correct answer and further procedures.

Thanks for that we are indeed taking that route of seeking legal advice. 

For info he was estranged from his children who apparently are layabouts and drug users and never took any interest in his wellbeing. From I understand they are entitled to their share of the sales price not the appraised price as determined by the land office for tax on the sale. 

The value over 20 years ago was very low I think in the order of 400000 for just a bit more than a rai which is located near a busy regional airport. We believe the appraised land value price would be close to 5 - 7  million which would attract a sales tax of at least 250k. 

One route my wife is considering as an interested honest broker in the affair is offering to buy the land from her sister for an amount say 1 million , pay the land tax and the resultant children shares and down the line when times are better try and sell for closer to the market price  recoup her costs and disburse a larger amount to her family members at that point. It should be added the family need the money desperately , are fairly destitute and the land is their only asset to help get them through this Covid time. 

Many thanks for that most insightful reply.  That has made it very clear and pointed out a way forward. Like most poor they all need the land to be sold so it looks like she will have to sell at a fire sale price probably and give the children what is due to them. 

Just a thought though what if the land was sold to a relative for a cheap price - would that be the determinant for what his sons would inherit ?

6 minutes ago, Delight said:

When the original wife of person A died nothing changed. Presumably the 3 children were too young to issue a claim.

Person A then marries person B.

It is agreed the husband and wife

 have equal shares in the land.

Now that person A has died then his assets(50% of the the land) will be split as follows.This assumes that probate is organised .

1. descendants ie his 3 sons

2. parents

3. brothers and sisters of full blood

4. brothers and sisters of half blood

5. grandparents

6. uncles and aunts

7. The surviving spouse is a statutory heir, subject to the special provisions of Section 1635 Civil and Commercial Code.

The children of person B cannot have any claim

 

Therefore the wife will either 25% or 50 % of the estate .

My knowledge of item Section 1635 Civil and Commercial Code-  is incomplete.

A Thai official will decide. This Thai official will only get involved when requested to do so. The action will occur following  some action by  the local Amphur  who will issue death certificate. I see no need for a lawyer. Thais do not use lawyers  unless absolutely necessary.

The stages from death certificate to a judgement will exist.  No doubt the Amphur can advise.

I cannot see that person B will get the lot.

Also-when person B dies her share will no doubt go to her 3 offspring.

Her motive to  own`the lot is understandable.

If at the end of the day it ends up being jointly owned by all 6 offspring -then dealing with that could be interesting.

Thanks for that comprehensive answer. You seem very knowledgeable. Do you consider that the chanote which has both names and was acquired wholly during the marriage to be a material difference ? As the surviving wife is seeking to change the name wholly to herself and through that acquire total control of the land and any proceeds from the sale. 

Many thanks for those replies we are keying up a lawyer- just interested in views before we proceed. The land on which he had a sort of shanty house was built and financed after his first divorce. His children never lived on the land and he spent quite a time there with his second wife during which time he bought the land , Person B was married to him for nearly 20 years. 

I understand if she  Person B died intestate then his children may have some claim. No one is living on the land at the moment.