ncguy

The tax receipts is for income earned in Thailand. For your pension have the Embassy letter and pension statement to back it up. I would also bring copies of the last three months payment vouchers if they are available but do not believe there is any set evidence required - just as long as you have something to back up the Embassy paperwork if they ask.

I have assumed you are married to a Thai?

Thanks lobburi, I have the letter from the embassy, even though they did not ask fr income proof. Just fill this out, pay the 30 USD and bring it back to me for certifiction. simple process. Yes I am married to a thai............

I was just reading some of the posts here, and it has caught my attention that some of the posts state that when visiting the immigration office in Thailand you must show with your income documentation a monthly income of at least 40k baht and tax receipts.

My question is, my income is from the US government for my retirement, (I am 44 and do not qualify for retirement visa) and do not pay taxes on it here in Thailand. am I okay with that and when I visit the immigrtion office in Jomtien, will they ask me to provide tax documentation on money from overseas?

I just returned from the US embassy in bkk for my income certification, so I have that now. Will be visiting immigration very soon, just don't want any suprises. I currently have a Non-O visa and just arrived here 5 days ago.

thanks for the help and for this forum.........

You can do in Jomtien at the immigration office there. Both you and wife will have to attend and there is a list of items you should plan to have (a recent Sunbelt post has the Bangkok requirements). If you visit office they will probably have a list available. Basic will be marriage certificate, passport, arrival card, id card, home register, address/phone numbers, photos together and of home which should include house number, many copies of various items. Best to get a list or expect to have to return with a few items. But if you live in same area will not be that much of a problem.

thanks lopburi for the info. I am glad to hear that all of this can be done at the jomtien immigration. Your help is greatly appreciated!

NCGUY

Hello, I have just arrived in Thailand on my Non-O visa. I am going today to the US embassy for income verification. After I receive that indicating that I have the 40k requirment for visa, then what do I do. Do I visit the immigration in BKK or can I do this in Pattaya, where my home is? Anything else I should know before hand? Please guide me in the right direction!

thanks

ncguy

I am leaving the USA on the 26th for my move to thailand. I have my non-o visa from the embassy stamped in my passport. Will be applying for the visa based on marriage to a thai. How long is the average time to receive a visa based on mariage? Just tring to get a feel for how long I should expect to wait.

thanks

I am moving to Thailand soon, and need to find a way to have my mail here in the USA forwarded to my thai address in Thailand. Is there a way to do this? Any suggestions is appreciated.

NCGUY

I have been reading some of the posts here concerning Tricare. I have tricare prime (retired military). My wife and I are moving to Thailand within the next month and I would like to know who the point of contact is for tricare there in thailand. Also if anyone knows of any tricare providers in or around pattaya please let me know. Also is there a insurance plan that can be bought cheaply that would cover the other 25% that tricare doesn't pay?

thanks

ncguy

1. Each Consulate or area will have specific forms to use. If Denver says to use download from Washington that is the form to use. UK forms would not be accepted.

2. Once you make application for extension of stay you can not travel without a re entry permit. The multi entry visa is of no use once you start the extension of stay process (unless you want to start again).

3. The US Embassy is the required certification point for US income. You will need supporting papers (OPM pay slips or such) to show immigration but the notarized statement (fill in blanks) from Embassy is required.

4. Multi, Multiple or M for number of entries if that is what you want. As you easily meet the qualifications there is really no need for the multi entry (people used to get in case they had money movement problems or such under old rules). Reason is visit wife. Stay is 90 days.

5. You probably also have the retirement option, which is 65k pension. This is less paperwork and extension is granted immediately. Same Embassy certification requirement.

I am only 44, so I do not believe that I can apply for the retirement visa. I am sending off my completed application and the fees to Denver next week, so I will be flying to thailand in the next few weeks. Thanks for all of your help, it is appreciated!!

Yes, that is what I intend to do. I have been told by other sources though that if they are offering a multi entry to you, do not pass it down. but my main concern is what do i put in block 1, how many entries I am requesting. I am lost on that and on the other issues I put in my post. I am amware of the 40k baht per month and I meet those requirments. Thanks/ncgy

The mullti will cost you more but if you dont mind paying for something you are not going to use then go for it. I think you have an old form as they used to issue 1,2,3 entry Visas but now it's single or multiple and the form says write 'S' or 'M'. Suggest you write Multi.

See form downloadable from Thai Embassy London

http://www.thaiembassyuk.org.uk/visaapplic...rm_internet.pdf

Thanks for your quick response. I think I will go the single entry route, and yes I must have the old forms. I just simply downloaded it from the Washington DC website, so they may be behind the times. Another question is can I travel neighboring countries while I am awaiting for my marriage visa. also, my pesnion in from the US government, can I get it certified once I get to thailand, or must I so it here in the USA before I leave? thanks again...

On the top of the form (block 1) it states number of entries requested. If i want a multi entry, do I simply write in there multiple?

A multi allows you as many entries as you want for 1 year and each time you enter the kingdom you get 90 days to stay which means if you time it right by leaving and reentering every 90 days you can get 15 months in the kingdom fo e few Visa runs. Is that what you want? A single entry Non Imm 0 will give you one entry and permission to stay for 90 days. You say you will apply for extension to stay with your Thai wife soon after your arrival, so will will need to prove an income of B40,000/month. If that is your intention a single entry Visa should be enough.otherwise with a multi you could take upto 15 months to arrange it.

Block 4 Purpose of visit. I am relocating, will be applying for a visa once there based on marriage to a thai. So what should i put there for purpose of visit? Date of arrival, does that need to be the exact date?

Purpose is to stay with Thai wife, estimate your preferred date of arrival, it doesn't really matter except that you will have to use the Visa within 3 months of date of issue.Lenght of stay can be 90 days

Yes, that is what I intend to do. I have been told by other sources though that if they are offering a multi entry to you, do not pass it down. but my main concern is what do i put in block 1, how many entries I am requesting. I am lost on that and on the other issues I put in my post. I am amware of the 40k baht per month and I meet those requirments. Thanks/ncgy

I am in the process of applying for my Non O Immigrant visa here in the USA. I spoke with the Consolute office in Denver and they reccommend a multi-entry, and that I can obtain the form from the Thai Embassy Washington DC website. I have the application and I have a few questions about it. I am applying for the non o as my wife and I are relocating to Thailand. She is Thai.

On the top of the form (block 1) it states number of entries requested. If i want a multi entry, do I simply write in there multiple?

Block 4 Purpose of visit. I am relocating, will be applying for a visa once there based on marriage to a thai. So what should i put there for purpose of visit? Date of arrival, does that need to be the exact date? We have not purchased our airline tickets yet, so does that date need to be exact? Length of stay, what do I put there? My intentions are to apply for my yearly visa based on marriage to a thai, so do I put 90 days?

I am new to this game so any help by some more experienced than me is greatly appreciated. I have relied on this forum to help guide me through the Immigration process and I appreciate everyone's assistance.

ncguy

I found this article in the Pattaya Today Paper and it has confused me. From earlier posts that I have read, a visa based on marriage to a thai, requirments are that you only need to show proof of a pension equal to or greater than 40,000 baht per month. If i am understanding this article, seems you need 800k on deposit in a thai bank. Am I confused or have I been given bad info and you do indeed need 800k on deposit for a visa based on marriage to a thai.

The article reads as follows:

A fourth group asked about the changes to the so called retirement visa and married man’s visa which are both extensions of a non immigrant visa. In both cases, the Thai authorities now reserve the right to check that the financial guarantee is kept in the bank for three months prior to application. In the past, some people had borrowed cash just to satisfy the requirements and then draw it out immediately after receiving the visa. If an applicant has only recently put the cash in his or her bank account, immigration will probably give only a “part year” visa and ask to see bank details again later on. Incidentally, the requirement to have a medical letter for the retirement option has been withdrawn. The married man’s visa, unlike the retirement one, can only be granted in Bangkok although the application can be lodged in Pattaya. Again, there will be checks that money in the bank isn’t whisked away too suddenly and evidence of other income is sometimes being asked as well. Immigration police may also visit the family home to check that man and wife really are living together.

Are there any secure storage facilities in or around Pattaya. I am looking into possibly getting one for my hhg's for approx 6 months. Any suggestions is greatly appreciated.

As the dual passport issue has caused the usual discussion, I will address the duty on personal effects. When we moved back to Thailand and used my wife's duty exempt status to import our container, she was required to furnish her passport that showed she had been out of the country for 1 year with appropriate visa from the that country. Your wife will have the Thai exit stamps in her Thai passport, but not having the US entry stamps and visas may be problem. Probably a good agent will be able to get it work, for a fee.

TH

You are correct, she must show thai passport whcih indicates that she has been outside of thailand for over 1 year. We are working closely with a shipping company here in Los Angeles that happens to be thai owned and in business for quit a while. they have explained everything. No mention of Visa from USA. My wife just recently renewed her Thai passport here in Los Angeles at the consolute, and that was a piece of cake. Her Thai passport, both new and old, along with her US passport all are in the same name, even her Thai ID card. We have traveled to thailand recently, but on that occassion she used her US passport. When we ship our container and leave the US she will show her US passport at the airport, then when we arrive Thailand, she will present her Thai passport for entry since we need the stamp to help clear our container duty-free. Plus using her thai passport she will not have to apply for the non-o immigrant visa like I have to do. I will post to this site after we get there and let everyone in this forum no how it went. hopefully without a hitch!!

Agree with francis. They arent really trying to drive people out as such, buy are definitely more interested in smaller number of rich people coming on holiday then large numbers of unwashed travelling backpackers. You can surely see some logic in it i guess.

Well, ... not really. Because that would imply that backpackers tend to want to stay more than 90 days. Assuming that most backpackers are students this is not likely to be the case.

I dont think they re actively trying to drive anyone out, its just that the way they do business here seems to be very reactive and knee-jerk. And the result of Karr is that they knee-jerked a policy in that seems to drive a lot of people out who were working in either grey areas, or completely black areas.

That is the official explanation. Except the people working in such business (i.e. contract workers from neighbouring countries) have probably never done a visa run in their life. I just heard yesterday that they just 'disappear' after their admission period is over. Also heard about specialized transport enterprises with specifically fitted trucks that can take up to 25 people inside the undercarriage. Again, such people are no danger to the forces that are...

I have also seen reports that they are afraid of the Caribean Factor, whereby all the rich foreigners buy up a small plot of paradise and suddenly the locals cant get a house, or even feel alianated in their own country. Cant blame them for that eithr really.

This is proably true. But all you can buy here is a condo, right? For everything else you need a Thai who puts his/her name on the deal...

And: where is the lobby of apartment/house owners? They must make a lot of money from visa runners. They won't make money from tourists.

All considered, I can come up with only one reason: because they CAN.

they are not trying to drive people away, just making things a little more difficult and in turn, puts more money into the pockets of those in charge. the fluxuation of the thai baht against major currencies is a way for the interim government to show it muscle......proving that it can do things that the previous adminstration could not. In the long run this will hurt thailand, because major economies will be looking elswhere for buying their goods. Its all about making money. Thailand needs the foreingers, since tourism is a major part of the countrys income. Take that away and exports slowing down due to the price of the baht........and things will gradually return back to the way they were!!

My wife and I are moving to the Land of Smiles mid Jan. She is thai by birth and approx 10 yrs ago received her american citizen by by the citizenship process. She has two passports. (Thai/US).

She is going to use her thai passport when we go this Jan. We are shipping some household goods to thailand and being a thai citizen she does not have to pay any import taxes.

Only if this is the case

Thai Residents: Thai residents may import the secondhand/used household effects acquired abroad duty-free if such household effects are accompanied them in the change of residence and they are qualified under the criteria listed below:

1. Thai residents or government officials work or carry out a working visit abroad for at least one year. In case where the Thai residents/government officials must return to Thailand before one year, evidence showing that the return is caused by the termination of contracts, reshuffle of positions, or early termination of working visits, is required.

2. Thai residents working abroad under other reasons than those indicated in (1) are required to undertake a commitment that they shall return to Thailand to resume residence.

3. Thai students, government officials study abroad for at least one year.

When we decide to return to the US for any reason, what is the best way for her to do that? With the thai passport or the US passport? She will not have a entry stamp from thailand in her US passport, only in her thai passport (since that is the one used to enter). We are confused and nervous about this since we certainly do not want to break any laws. Will the thai immigration cause problems for her/us if and when we decide to travel outside the kingdom if she uses her US passport and there is no entry stamp in it? Will the US have issues with that also?. If she uses the Thai passport to enter, what does she show on the US side to prove that she has american citizenship? She does not have a permanent resident card since she now has citizenship. We are confused and need help! Anyone have any suggestions?

When entering and leaving Thailand, she uses the Thai passport. When entering and leaving the USA, she uses her American passport. This is the correct sequence.

www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

Could the US immigration ask where her exit stamp is when she uses her US passport to enter, and if so, what to we tell them, that she used her Thai passport to enter the kingdom and to exit? Is that legal, having 2 passports? She just renewed her thai passport at the Los angeles consolute. No problems or questions asked. she just showed her Thai ID card and paid the fees and that was it. Can citizens have two passoprts legally? thanks........

My wife and I are moving to the Land of Smiles mid Jan. She is thai by birth and approx 10 yrs ago received her american citizen by by the citizenship process. She has two passports. (Thai/US).

She is going to use her thai passport when we go this Jan. We are shipping some household goods to thailand and being a thai citizen she does not have to pay any import taxes.

When we decide to return to the US for any reason, what is the best way for her to do that? With the thai passport or the US passport? She will not have a entry stamp from thailand in her US passport, only in her thai passport (since that is the one used to enter). We are confused and nervous about this since we certainly do not want to break any laws. Will the thai immigration cause problems for her/us if and when we decide to travel outside the kingdom if she uses her US passport and there is no entry stamp in it? Will the US have issues with that also?. If she uses the Thai passport to enter, what does she show on the US side to prove that she has american citizenship? She does not have a permanent resident card since she now has citizenship. We are confused and need help! Anyone have any suggestions?

thanks

NCGUY

I am curious if anyone has been outright rejected by mail and in person? If so, could you state what happened consulate (which/where) or embassy and what transpired.

Also...could you provide some background as to stamps in pp for thailand or visits and if you are perhaps married to thai, working....I am really only trying to address the T-tourist multiple here.

For instance...if you ask for atriple but they give you a double or single, and you obviously sent in a check/m.o. - did they return the balance and if so how? Did they call you and inform you of the situation?

I had heard some live in certain area of country but send pp to other consulate. This might not be issue if you live in Seattle and send to Houston, but if you live an hour from consulate/emb and send it to other side of country... any issues. fyi - l.a. is bad place to procure visa by mail and in person.

Again, just interested if the money is returned and how, process is held up, phone hassles/phone tag and questions (doubtfully).

I live in Ca. and I am in the process of getting my NON-O. I have heard nightmare stories about the consolute in LA so I am working with the denver office. the lady who I spoke to was very helpful and willing to answer any questions that I had. I have heard nothiong but good things from people working with that office.

Many thanks -

I am curious if anyone has been outright rejected by mail and in person? If so, could you state what happened consulate (which/where) or embassy and what transpired.

Also...could you provide some background as to stamps in pp for thailand or visits and if you are perhaps married to thai, working....I am really only trying to address the T-tourist multiple here.

For instance...if you ask for atriple but they give you a double or single, and you obviously sent in a check/m.o. - did they return the balance and if so how? Did they call you and inform you of the situation?

I had heard some live in certain area of country but send pp to other consulate. This might not be issue if you live in Seattle and send to Houston, but if you live an hour from consulate/emb and send it to other side of country... any issues. fyi - l.a. is bad place to procure visa by mail and in person.

Again, just interested if the money is returned and how, process is held up, phone hassles/phone tag and questions (doubtfully).

Many thanks -

I am in the process of getting a Non-O Immigration visa here in the USA. My wife and I are moving to Thailand mid Jan. I spoke with the Thai consolute today (Denver office) and she asked my which visa did I want. Single entry or multi entry. I could get either one very easily according to her. I am going to apply for a visa once i get to thailand based on marriage to a thai. There is a waiting period once I apply in thailand but I am concerned that if I pay the 125.00 fee for multi entry and then when I get to thailand and apply for my visa based on marriage to a thai that my multi will no longer be valid. I would like to have the opportunity to travel outside of thailand if I desire but I am afraid that if I do so, my visa will no longer be valid. Does anyone have the answer to my question?

I also need to get my retirement pension certified, how do I do that? Do I do that here in the USA or do I wait untli I get to thailand?

Is it still 40,000 baht a month income and NO deposit of 400K? I am 44 so I do not qualify for retirement yet? Your help is greatly appreciated!

You should obtain a non immigrant O visa and she should use her Thai passport to enter Thailand. You can then extend your stay for one year periods at a time from immigration with proof of marriage and 40k family income. She will not need a visa/extension if she enters using Thai passport. Bank deposit of 400k is no longer an option or required.

Thanks for the info, will apply for that when we get back to the US. What about airline ticket, should it be R/T or can I get one-way? Also her last name on her Thai passport and Thai ID is not the same as mine. How easy is that to get changed here? Will her last name being different cause a problem? that make a difference? Also our marriage certificate is from the US, but we do have it translated into thai, will that be acceptable proof here in Thailand? Thanks again for you assistance!

I am currently in Thailand on vacation, and my wife is Thai. We are from the US and she has US citizenship. We are hoping to make a home for ourselves here in Thailand. We have a home in Pattaya. I am 44. She does have her thai Id. What should we do to allow for me to get a visa? I have income of approx 60,000 baht a month and can deposit 400 k in a thai bank. Need assistance on what is best for me to get a visa. What about her, would she still need to get a visa or could she stay long term without one? As stated, she still has a valid ID card and a Thai passport? Any help would be appreciated.

I am 44, married to a thai for the past 6 years. I have a retirement pension of about 60,000 baht a month. Can I have a combination of cash on deposit and a pension to make up my 400k? Any suggestions is appreciated!

ncguy

What exactly are the stipulations for a marriage visa? I am married to a thai, I am 44 yrs old, and I am retired. My wife is here with me in the USA, got her citizenship for the US but she still does have her Thai passport and her Thai ID. Could I still get a marriage visa based on this senario? Also the 400,000 baht in a thai bank. Can this be a combination of income from retirement and a deposit or must it be just 400,000 on deposit in a thai bank? I know a retirement visa in can be a combination. Any suggestions would be appreciated! We are planning a move in the near future.....

ncguy