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2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Kary Mullis also believed that AIDS wasn't caused by the HIV virus. He was a crank. A brilliant guy but a crank. And he died quite a while back. He would have had no idea of how sophisticated PCR testing has become.

Unfortunately he died few months before covid started. Any idea? Many great scientists who are warning people seem to be forgetten for those who lack of knowledge.

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I'm not suggesting that the ‘Vaccine didn’t directly kill’ the doctor.  

 

But, did the ‘vaccine actually kill the doctor ?'

 

You see... 1 in 1000 people die from Thrombosis every year. 

In Thailand along 1024 people die every day (from various causes)

In the EU 12,700 people die each day (from various causes)

 

Thus: It stands to reason that in a period of mass vaccine roll out some of those people will die within a close time frame of taking a vaccine. Some of those people will also fall down the stairs or have a car accident. 

 

The point I want to make is that we need to be very careful about proportioning blame directly to the vaccine when that could simple be coincidental. 

 

When I was 36 I had a pulmonary Embolism (it could have killed me), a friend recently had a DVT, that could have killed him (if it migrated to P.E.)....  Had we just taken the vaccine it would be very easy to add 2+2 and come with with “holy sh!tballs batman, the vaccine is dangerous !!!” ....  

 

..... What we really need to know in these cases is... Was a postmortem carried out and was the vaccine directly responsible for the death, or medical situation causing death, OR, is the Wife blaming the vaccine for no other reason than he’d recently had the vaccine’.... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How are you so sure how many people die from covid? They probably forget about other diseases these days. Think think ??? Why??? Many severe cases couldn't reach the have appropriate treatments because couldn't refer to bigger hospitals and everyone need PCR test. So necessary to count a covid case than save people lives.

You probably googling a lot than realistic, common sense even scientific knowledge. Try harder. 

"Anyone can test positive for practically anything with a PCR test, if you run it long enough, with PCR if you do it well, you can find almost anything, in anybody, It doesn't tell you if you're sick"

— Kary Mullis, (Nobel Prize-winning biochemist who invented the PCR test).

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

No, you won't be fine. Keep in mind that without the restriction that were in place, deaths and severe illness would have been much higher. They were very effective against influenza  And even if that were the case the only the cohorts you specified were afflicted,, the consequences of contracting covid are a lot more severe for those people than they are for most other widely spread viral illnesses.

You are really fear.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

And a further deflection by trying to make it personal. The fact is, you have no answer for the fact that getting vaccinated drastically reduces one's chance of dying or suffering severe illness compared to those who don't get vaccinated. And now you're just shoveling up garbage to attempt to deflect from that. I got news for you: it's not working.

You will be fine unless you are obesity, elderly, underlying, all these conditions are for every illness not only covid.

Just now, placeholder said:

What you're saying is because you're okay now, you always will be.

Aren't you ok, are you?

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Good argument against buying health insurance.

I'm telling the fact.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I wish I could say the same of your attempted deflection.

Let's do really simple googling. 

If you get flu vaccine every year, you do for only one year because someone tell you to get it to save your life or have mild symptoms. So you spend about 500 THB a year or gov pays it because gov is really nice to save people lives. 

Only you = 500 THB

66 million of Thai people = 33,000 million

Wow that's really good deal.

Next year you need to have it again because same reason and new varient.

Wow, money coming every year in someone pocket. 

Why haven't I need it?

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So not dying and getting less severe symptoms is irrelevant? Low expectations much?

You googling very well. Have you got flu vaccine every year?

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You really believe that your failure to mention the vaccines' effectiveness against a little thing called "death" would go unnoticed?

Well, if life is useless, then you have a point. Otherwise, not so much.

 

US is split between the vaccinated and unvaccinated – and deaths and hospitalizations reflect this divide

On July 16, 2021, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky revealed that 99.5% of recent U.S. deaths from COVID-19 were of unvaccinated people. “Those deaths were preventable with a simple, safe shot,” she said. In Early July, Fauci said that 99.2% of people who died recently were unvaccinated. In the state of Maryland, every patient who died from COVID-19 in June was unvaccinated.

https://www.krqe.com/health/coronavirus/vaccine/us-is-split-between-the-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-and-deaths-and-hospitalizations-reflect-this-divide/

Vaccination or unvaccinate can spread the same. What's the point? I'm sure lives have a lot meaning for who are considering of having it.

8 minutes ago, codemonkey said:

Until the vaccine prevents break-thru infections how can anyone say it is useful or necessary for healthy folks when the CDC covid survival rates are 99.5% for those <70.

Yeah, how can anyone say it is useful?

I don't understand when you get vaccine, you don't need to do PCR test, what's the point of having vaccination or doing PCR test? Health care workers are having the 3rd dose, what's the point of having vaccine? Who get benefit of this healthy guarantee? The story of flu vaccine is similar, isn't it.

21 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

It is 102 beds only and definitely not where to go with a major problem, especially given the much better options within 20 minutes or so.

This wrote it was a plan to set up beds from 135 to 400 in 2017. Could they make it?

http://www.msdbangkok.go.th/news 090457.html

Sick of free speech isn't free speech. Vaccination program for all pregnancy is coming.

45 minutes ago, Captor said:

Dear Sherry,

You seem to know a lot about Thai health care. Do you think the Ratchaphiphat Hospital in Bang Khae would be OK for rthis type of side effect?

At the ICU there (if there is that).

We have never been there only seen it in far distance. It looks not so big.

It's 400-bed hospital. Not sure if it's possible for check all labs especially D-dimer. However if it's emergency, they would do best and can refer later if they need specific treatments and investigation.

12 hours ago, Captor said:

Can you post the Thai link?

Actually I had seen it on another social channel. It has gone when I searched again, sometimes many things are disappeared, smell fishy.

https://www.thairath.co.th/news/local/central/2157007

On 8/2/2021 at 1:45 AM, edwardandtubs said:

What are the symptoms of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome?

You should seek medical attention immediately if, following vaccination, you have any of these symptoms:

 

a severe or persistent headache that:

starts at least 4 days after vaccination

doesn’t improve with simple pain-relief medicines such as paracetamol

may be worse when lying down

may be accompanied by nausea and vomiting

blurred vision

difficulty speaking

difficulty breathing

chest pain

drowsiness

seizures

swelling in the leg

persistent abdominal (stomach) pain associated with feeling unwell

tiny blood spots under the skin, away from the site of injection

Common and expected side effects of COVID-19 vaccines include fever, sore muscles, tiredness and headache. These usually start within 24 hours of vaccination and last for 1 to 2 days. These side effects shouldn’t worry you unless they’re severe or persistent.

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/thrombosis-with-thrombocytopenia-syndrome-tts#symptoms

✔ This Thai news which I could not find in English was just showed up exactly the same symptoms from your lists happened to his wife who was 28 years without underlying after AZ. He and his lawyer will find out...another victim

16 hours ago, Gold Star said:

I agree. The faster we can use up the stock of Chinese vaccines, the sooner we can get out of this mess.

Do you have children?

19 hours ago, placeholder said:

The US CDC among other National Health authorities routinely checks samples of patients with respiratory illness to see what kind of influenza virus has caused it 2020 they could find virtually no influenza of any kind but they did find plenty of covid

Ask Kary Mullis!

5 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

He does not suspect he has TTS now. He is asking as a precaution.

Laboratory tests above especially D-dimer and platelet count would help before the jab and check if after vaccination. There are some hospitals are doing research about this, if you can apply in it.

Have you checked blood test yet? Would be urgent blood tests for CBC, APTT, PT, fibrinogen and D-dimer. Do you have baseline? Big private hospital can check for this test such as Bamrungrad and medical schools. However for the diagnosis would be specific doctor. Just give the history of AZ suspected.

1 hour ago, jak2002003 said:

No...no covid vaccination yet.

As other people recommend to you to see neuro physician. Hope nothing severe.

Can I ask you something? If you had vaccination? Sorry to ask this question because to R/O.

Is that 206 gm? The price in Thailand depends on where you buy it. If you buy this type of eggplant from Villa market is expensive than Tops especially if it's organic. At local market it is 20 THB for the same quality.