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3 hours ago, Elkski said:

when you get married first and apply for the CR1 visa when you do finally get it the lady will have a work permit a travel card and a green card. when you apply for the green card change of status it goes to the local office and some of them are backed up quite a bit supposedly the Salt lake office is now taking two years to get a green card although you can apply for a work permit separately and with a K1 visa even after your married the woman cannot travel until she gets a travel card so in case there's a family emergency it would void the K1 visa if she leaves the country without this travel card We have applied for one but we're not sure how many months it may take to get. in my case I didn't decide to get married and do the K1 visa until a month or so after I returned from my last visit in January 2020. And with covid there was no way I was going to go back for 2 weeks quarantine. but if you're already in Thailand with this woman and you can stay there for 15 months or whatever time it may take to get a CR1 visa that would definitely be the way to go. 

so if I went the CR1 route, while me and her wait for that, would she still be able to apply for a tourist visa to come visit the states for vacation? 

3 hours ago, Elkski said:

The advice about getting a K1 visa is pre covid timelines.   Our K1 visa began March 3 2020 and took 15 months she got visa April 30 .   Check a visa journey website.   Even before covid many people believed the CR1 visa (already married) was the way to go.    Yeppers now that you posted your intent to marry to better not do a tourist visa and then marry in USA.  Even if she could get a tourist visa. Not.   It's aong painful road either way. 

Thanks ???? 

1 minute ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Sorry to say, but first handle your divorce.

You wouldnt think about it now, but many are were in your situation, getting married.

I've never been married before...no need for divorce lol

1 minute ago, Khun Falang said:

As the lawyer stated above, a Fiance Visa is a quicker process than a Marriage Visa. 

 

The way I read your question (I may be wrong) you may be planning it all the wrong way. If you first marry her in Thailand, then you can NOT apply for a Fiance Visa because you two will no longer be single (or divorced or widowed). If you plan on getting married in Thailand, then you should not apply for a Fiance Visa. Even though the visa application process may not discover right away that you are married in Thailand, submitting an application for a visa with false information is reason for the entire immigration process in the US to be reversed at any future time. With ALL of your applications submitted to the US government, make sure that ALL of the information you provide is true and correct. You really have to be 100% truthful.

 

If you marry in Thailand first, you will be ineligible for marriage in the US (as long as the Thai marriage will still be valid) and everything based on a false application for marriage license in the US will void the marriage at some future point (when it is discovered). 

 

The above answer from the lawyer was the correct and the best answer.

 

If and when you get married in the US, you should ask the Thai consulate what you will need as far as translation and / or certification of the marriage license, in order to later on register yourself at the Amphor as married. That registration will be based on your US marriage license.

Thanks, I think I will just bring her over on a fiancé visa then marry her over there 

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You would have to register your marriage here as a Thai.

You would use your US nationality to apply for her visa.

You could apply for her to get a fiance visa here and get married in the states as a US citizen.

thanks 

 I have dual citizenship, I want to bring my Thai fiancé to the USA, should I marry her as a Thai citizen or American citizen? Does one make it easier or harder to obtain a visa for her to go to the states? 

7 minutes ago, bbko said:

So was Mr A a complete and total stranger to the baby's mother? How can a mother give away her baby to someone that she doesn't even know where he lives?

 

With that being said, wouldn't it be easier for the mother take her child back? Her name is on the birth certificate, she's a Thai national, and no need for a DNA test.  Once the child is her custody you'll have more time to get the DNA stuff taken care of and find ways to fix this situation.

Yeah we thought that too, but the police refuse to enter his property. they said either take it to the courts or wait for him to take the baby off the property, then the mother could just go snatch the baby and he can't do anything about it. Its complete BS

34 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Have the police take the child back.

A random man on a birth certificate has no rights over a child in Thailand.

You also have no rights over any child you sire in Thailand out of wedlock.

A father needs a marriage certificate to the mother or a court order to get any rights.

 

Your story sounds like complete BS, as the police know this and act on it.

That's what I thought to, but the police in his district keep saying they can't go into his property. Super BS going on. I might attempt to go there again with the mother and explain to the police that he isn't married to her and that he has no court order saying he has rights to the kid.  If that doesn't work maybe I should go to another districts police agency (but Ive already tried that before, and they keep telling me they don't have no jurisdiction, and to go to his districts police station) ...Its frustrating. 

Ok so here's my situation. I was messing with a woman in 2019, she got pregnant with my child, but I had to go back home to the United States. The relationship fell apart over the long distance and I lost contact with her.  Fast forward to March 2020 and she contacts me to let me know that the baby had been born during the first week of March.  I asked to see the baby, but she informed me that she gave it to a guy (we'll just call him *Mr.A*) to look after because she is only 22 years old, and feels like she is incapable of caring for the child.  She informs me that her agreement for giving Mr.A the baby was that she would be allowed to visit the child anytime she wanted to, as well as receive pictures of the child on a regular basis.  4 days after Mr A receives the baby, he comes to meet the mother and have her sign what he says is insurance papers for the baby. He states that he is in a rush that day and tells her she has to hurry up and sign the papers. The mother signs the papers, but unbeknownst to her, the papers are actually a form to put his name on the birth certificate as the father. At the same time this is happening, me and the mother reconcile and decide to be friends. She inform's me on what she has done with the baby without my knowledge and I tell her she should have just gave the baby to me, since I am the biological father, and because I have experience being a single parent (I have a 17 year old daughter, whom I've had full custody of, since she was born).  The mother agrees that she has made a grave mistake, and she attempts to contact Mr A, to get our baby back.

           After speaking with her, Mr A then finds me on Facebook and contacts me. He asks me if I am the father of the woman's baby, and if I want my baby back. Of course I say yes, and then Mr. A tells me to come to Bangkok. I inform him that I already am in Bangkok, which I guess shocked him.  He then says that he will bring me my baby next week, and that he will call me. No call ever comes, and he blocks me on Facebook so I can't contact him.  I inform the mother and she tries to contact him to no success. the mother is unable to contact Mr. A, as he has blocked her from all ways of contact, including social media, and changing his phone number. At this point both me and the mother are terrified because Mr. A has dissapered with the baby and we don't know where he lives or what his real name is.  

      We try using our friends social media to look up his pages and contact him, but it doesn't help, because he doesn't use his real name on any social media. So months pass, and we cannot find Mr. A's identity.   Then the mother gets the bright idea to go get a copy of the birth certificate which will have his real name on it.  It works, not only do we find out his real name, but we find out what his address is. We rush over to his house and ring the doorbell at the gate.  The sister of Mr A comes to the gate, She speaks with the baby's mother, but informs her that she will not open the gate, and that she will not let us take or even see the baby.  Me and the mother call the police, when they arrive, we explain to them the situation. The police go to the gate and speak with Mr A's sister.  Then the police officers walk back to us and inform us that they cannot go in and take the baby because technically Mr A's name is on the birth certificate as the father.  So they then inform us that we should take Mr A to court, and force him to take a blood test.  So we go down to the court house to get more information on how to file suit and I am advised that it will be a long process since I am a foreigner. but I inform them that I am in the process of getting my Thai citizenship (Thai ID/ Passport) since both my parents are Thai.  They advise me to wait till I'm a Thai citizen to take MR. A to court....  So here I am at present day, I've obtained my Thai ID & passport. I am currently looking for any good lawyers who specialize in child custody law.  Any recommendations or advise is welcome. Thanks

4 minutes ago, steve187 said:

do a 1 year extension and then when you re-enter Thailand use the Thai passport

Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. thanks bro!

16 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

When checking in for a flight, my children submit both their Thai and US passports at the counter and the airline records both in their system. They have also had to show both at immigration on the way out in order to leave legally on their Thai passports and also to be able to prove they can enter the country they are flying to since they don't have visas in their Thai passports. Never had a problem with this.

I was wondering this too, this is helpful, thanks

On 7/3/2021 at 12:32 PM, steve187 said:

so this thread has been running 3 days and the op made one post, the opening post, 

so a troll or someone that is not really interested in the comments,

but as there is a difference of ideas what he/she should do here is my 2 cents worth from a friends experience maybe others apart from the op is following

- as he/she entered on a US passport he is in Thailand as an American, as such he needs to keep his permission to stay as an American legal, if he /she is a Thai national since birth, by getting a one year extension for being a holder of Thai nationality, 1,900 thb.

I have been out of town on business, haven't had a chance to sit down and reply to any posts until today. The comments have been really helpful. I think I will go to immigration and try to sort it out and see if they can cancel my non Thai visa, if not I'll probably just get a one year extension, as ill be heading back to the states in December anyways

1 minute ago, EricTh said:

Lucky you. Many foreigners want to get Thai citizenship but it is very difficult.

 

 

Yeah, I'm so glad I got it now. It's hated going to do my visa all the time! 

On 7/3/2021 at 7:39 AM, Kwarium said:

First case, yes.

Second case, no.

 

I thought all of the rules were special. OP has not stated whether they were naturalized or just reached age 21 and got their Thai ID and passport based on a Thai birth certificate.

Sorry for not being more detailed, I'm over 21 and I got my Thai ID/Passport based on my Thai birth certificate. Both my parents are Thai.

On 7/2/2021 at 10:37 PM, Kwarium said:

Wow, most misinformation I have ever seen in 1 thread!

 

Go to any immigration office with your new Thai passport and your US passport with current visa/permission to stay. They will cancel the visa. Be sure to take documents showing how/why you have a new Thai passport. E.g.- Naturalization certificate, etc.

 

Even with a Thai passport in hand, you will be charged overstay if you have overstayed on your US passport. When it happened to my stepdaughter, it made me wonder what would have happened if she wasn’t quite so honest, or maybe went through the automated exit lanes... 

 

These two bits of advice are based on my personal experiences, ymmv.

Thanks, I will try this out!

On 7/1/2021 at 11:26 PM, EricTh said:

If you already have a Thai ID and passport, you are already a Thai. Why do you need a visa anymore?

 

How and where did you get your Thai citizenship? Mind telling us.

I was born in the US but both my parents are Thai. That is how I got my Thai passport/citizenship. 

I came in with a US passport, but I recently got my Thai ID & Thai passport, do I need to renew my visa (which is running out soon)? Do I need to leave Thailand and come back in with my Thai passport? Do I have to notify immigration?