worzel

All the cunning of wet bogroll.

How these people have made it to the 21st Century is really quite astounding.

Thailand has not made it to the 21st Century, it is still in and regressing more so into the dark ages.

according to bbc world news this morning lord and master not well at all if shit happens i think its bc (before christ) for this place

3 very small dead fish ?

I'm not sure what you are trying to get across here ?

These fish are dead as a direct result of the spill ?

How much diesel was spilt there ?

Mother nature is very resilient when it comes to spills

say that to gulf of mexico <deleted>

Does anyone remember the spill in banrak 4-5 days ago result of just flushing it into the sea i bullshite you not

EDITORIAL

World Bank zeroes in on Thai education

The Nation

But the government is still placing the emphasis on saving face rather than securing the Kingdom's future prosperity

BANGKOK: -- A recent report from the World Bank titled "Thailand's Economic Monitor" shed light on a number of weak points the Kingdom needs to address. Among the most disturbing was the state of the education system here, which clearly requires substantial reform.

According to the report, one-third of 15-year-old Thai students are "functionally illiterate" - they lack the basic reading skills to manage their lives in the modern world, leaving their chances of finding well-paid jobs slim to non-existent.

World Bank Southeast Asia director Ulrich Zachau pointed out that Thailand's export growth has been slowing since 2012, part of a long-term trend. To change that trend, the Kingdom must launch structural reform to bolster the skills and productivity of its labour force. "The single most important thing for Thailand is to improve its education and skills outside Bangkok," Zachau said.

The suggestion is not new. Successive governments have vowed to make education reform a priority, yet student performance has not improved. The World Bank's findings are the latest evidence of that failure. Obviously the gap between what we know of the issues and how to fix them remains as yawning as ever.

Finance Minister Sommai Phasee, presiding at the unveiling of the World Bank report, admitted he has been reluctant to raise the problem in Cabinet because he didn't want to offend the ministers who oversee education.

"I dare not speak up because there are three ministers responsible [for education and skills], and all are soldiers," he said. "We are still not walking the right path and we are still walking slowly."

Sommai said he agrees with the bank's assessment that education and human resources are critical to the future of Thailand's economy and political stability. However, he needs to understand that he has a moral obligation to speak up, regardless of the type of government in place. After all, the matter at hand - the future of the country - far outweighs the egos of a few generals.

This involves more than the quality of our children's education. It extends to the economic well-being of the nation as a whole.

Here, the trend in recent years has been alarming. From 2012 to 2014 exports grew by an average of just 1 per cent annually. This represents a precipitous drop from the 13-per-cent growth between 2006 and 2011.

The World Bank points out that the decline was partly due to eroding competitiveness and slow improvements in productivity compared to other countries.

Moreover, the disparity between public schools in the cities and those in rural areas must be addressed if we are to move forward. This means we need to improve resources for schools in the provinces.

It's wonderful that we can produce a few students who excel in international competitions but, if the majority of their contemporaries are "functionally illiterate", it reflects poorly on Thailand as a nation. More significantly, this disparity will have a negative impact on the country's economic future, as the World Bank report notes.

One of the recommendations the bank offers the government is that smaller rural schools be reorganised and merged into larger institutions. This would optimise teaching efficiency and offer better-quality education in the classroom.

Thailand could slash the number of classrooms with less than one teacher per class from the current 110,725, to 12,600 simply by merging its 9,421 "non-isolated large schools and 16,943 non-isolated small schools", the World Bank says. That would mean the total number of schools dropping to 14,252.

Raising the number of teachers per class upcountry to Bangkok levels could also be achieved by recruiting 160,000 more teachers.

There are no easy decisions, but all constructive measures must be taken into consideration if we want genuine reform that improves education. We can make a start by getting our priorities straight.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/World-Bank-zeroes-in-on-Thai-education-30261651.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-05

lak of you mean

Seems like anything to do with football is tainted these days.

fifa and thailand identical twins no

All the Thai girls that get suckered into paying for 'undelivered' packages from their 'internet boyfriends' must be very upset to hear this

no it was leicester city players again poor thai bar girls

" The improvement of National Parks will include better regulation of the parks , such as the visitors fees ...... ".

So basically, the entrance fees proposed by the government several months ago, of 10 times the fee of a Thai for entrance to the park by a Farang, ( Foreigner ) will be written in stone now.

LOS = Land of Scams

You ever been to a national park ? No probably not.

The emphasis seems to be on the marine national parks which I haven't visited for many years but from reports are getting increasing numbers of tourists (Chinese tour groups) and do need protecting and if I understand correctly most of these have never charged fees.

As far as the land based parks are concerned, which I do visit often, some have excellent facilities others have been somewhat neglected although this is possibly a funding and management thing as the staff on the ground are always friendly and helpful . We usually avoid the most popular parks preferring the less visited places, these get the most visitors on weekends and holidays and most are Thai.

These parks are excellent value and great places, as far as fees go I pay the same as Thai, an example; last week we spent 3 nights at Taksin Maharat National Park cost 30b each entry, 30b for the car and 30b per night to camp. Total cost for 3 nights 240b.

Where in the world could you get a better deal which included good toilets and showers, lights at night if wanted, plugs to charge batteries and freedom come and go as we pleased.

you ever lived in thailand prop not take those rosy glasses of short stayer

Just trying to be helpful you t&&t better than doing it thai style ie anywhere they feel like

Leicester City players apologise over racist orgy in Thailand

LONDON: -- Three Leicester City players have apologised after they were filmed in an orgy with a Thai woman who was racially abused. The club has said it is “deeply concerned” and has launched an investigation after calls for the trio to be sacked.

The footage, obtained by the Sunday Mirror, allegedly shows the 22-year-old defender James Pearson, the son of the club’s manager, Nigel, the striker Tom Hopper, 21, and the goalkeeper Adam Smith, 22, naked in a Thai hotel room as women are filmed engaged in sex acts. In a clip of the video posted on the newspaper’s website, one of the men appears to be heard calling one of the women a “slit eye” in a racist slur.

Later one calls one of the women “minging – an absolute one out of 10” as his friends laugh. Other offensive comments are made to the women as the players appear to laugh and egg each other on. It is alleged the trio shared the explicit video with friends back in the UK.

In a statement the club said the players “would like to convey their sincere apologies for their behaviour – to the women involved in the incident, to the club and its owners, to the club’s fans and to their families”.

Earlier Leicester City had released a statement saying: “We take the conduct of our players at every level extremely seriously and will take appropriate action, if necessary, once the full facts of the situation have been established. Pending the outcome of an internal investigation the club will make no further comment.”

Full story: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/31/leicester-city-investifation-thai-racist-abuse-allegations

-- The Guardian 2015-06-01

and thais aint racist no

Up the airport road near departures cost i thick 100 baht a truck

Jurrasic park full of creatures

Today we had much fun at Jungle Splash (got a good discount during Kids Day), until my wifey spot a nice chunk of POOP in the pool. I mean, screw parents, who bring their non-toilet trained kids w/o swim-diapers, but also screw slowpokes from JS staff, who said "yeah, a cleaner will come soon". Go figure what "soon" means in Thailand, but that was quite a shitty ending.

So just beware.

JS should start selling swim-diapers and force kids < 3y.o. to wear them. Could be a decent stream of income, as noone else sells swim-diapers in this country, I assume.

in the uk if this happens the water has to be removed and replaced a recent event like this happenend in a public pool in the uk the local council is sueing the parents for the cost

Jesus wept - We aint in the UK, thankfully!

i agree but at least you aint gonna catch sumut nasty

Today we had much fun at Jungle Splash (got a good discount during Kids Day), until my wifey spot a nice chunk of POOP in the pool. I mean, screw parents, who bring their non-toilet trained kids w/o swim-diapers, but also screw slowpokes from JS staff, who said "yeah, a cleaner will come soon". Go figure what "soon" means in Thailand, but that was quite a shitty ending.

So just beware.

JS should start selling swim-diapers and force kids < 3y.o. to wear them. Could be a decent stream of income, as noone else sells swim-diapers in this country, I assume.

in the uk if this happens the water has to be removed and replaced a recent event like this happenend in a public pool in the uk the local council is sueing the parents for the cost

PM vows to tackle welfare, education issues

The Nation

Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha pays respect to his former teachers

BANGKOK: -- AS THE country celebrated National Teachers' Day yesterday, Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha said the government would solve education issues and take care of teachers' welfare.

Prayut, who presided over an event to mark the occasion in Bangkok, expressed hope that all schools would be of good quality and be free from the "tea money" issue.

He urged teachers to apply cyber technology in educating children on how to live in a changing society without creating conflict.

At the Education Ministry's Teachers Council of Thailand Hall, Prayut presented awards to individuals who had benefited from the Thai education system and paid his respects to his old teachers from Wat Nuannoradit School - Boonma Rattanaubon and Wijitra Chaipat.

In his two-hour speech, Prayut urged teachers of all faiths to propel the country forward and nurture students who abided by the law, were disciplined, and could compete with citizens of other countries.

He called on teachers to be prudent in their spending and focus on morality while following HM the King's sufficiency-economy principle.

He said the government planned a new approach to tackle the teachers' debt and welfare issues.

"We have to see how teachers can get extra pay because we cannot give a pay rise to all teachers," the PM said.

"Some teachers want more time to teach students. Since they claimed that a lot of time was needed for teacher evaluations, we must appropriately adjust and lessen the evaluation time."

Meanwhile, 400 teachers in the deep South province of Narathiwat vowed to perform their duties despite 346 other teachers in the province asking for transfers over safety fears.

At a ceremony in the province's Sungai Kolok district, which saw 70 outstanding educators honoured, Prasert Simcharoen led fellow teachers in making the vow.

They also stood in silence in remembrance of 187 slain teachers and other educational personnel, including schoolteacher Juling Pongkanmoon, who were murdered in Narathiwat's Rangae district in 2005.

Another teacher, Udon Saising, holds after-school classes on the King's sufficiency economy principle and teaches new theories through a hands-on approach along with his fulltime job at Ban Kotabaru School in Yala's Raman district.

Under the school's "Farming for Lunch" project, Udon teaches kids interested in farming how a one-rai (0.4 of an acre) space behind the school could be used for integrated farming.

Students get to learn how to grow vegetables, chicken and fish, and the farm produce is eaten at lunch at the school or sold to locals.

"I want my students to have farming knowledge and apply the King's sufficiency economy concept so they are equipped with vocational skills," he said.

"What I want for the National Teachers' Day is a peaceful co-existence in society in which all kids are educated and equipped with life skills so they can fend for themselves and protect themselves from harm."

In the North, Somsak Wutthisat, a former outstanding teacher and the current school director of Ban Mae Rameung in Tak's Tha Song Yang district, urged the government to take care of rural teachers by increasing their pay and giving them welfare so that they had an incentive to remain in the rural area.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/PM-vows-to-tackle-welfare-education-issues-30252087.html

-- The Nation 2015-01-17

wont happen keep em thick and they will do as thier told and believe all the bullshite thier told educate em then revolution

Police senior sergeant major killed by racing motorcyclist

SA KAEO: -- A police senior sergeant major was fatally hit by a speeding motorcycle when he tried to stop road races in Sa Kaeo's Aranyaprathet district at 11:30 pm Saturday.

Pol Sen Sgt Maj Wichai Raksilp, who was heading the road checkpoint, tried to stop a group of 20 motorcyclist racing on the road but one of them hit him, hurling him about five metres away.

Wichai died at the Aranyaprathet hospital. The 16-year-old motorcyclist was injured and detained at the hospital. Police said the boy is a son of a senior Army officer in the province.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Police-senior-sergeant-major-killed-by-racing-moto-30251676.html

-- The Nation 2015-01-11

if offender driving lambo or other supercar pissed and coked of head no proplem

Let`s just say I`m somewhat bitter, having lost family members to a murderous campagin, funded almost entirely out of American ignorance from people desperately seeking some kind of identity. (why do American always need a dual identity? Why Can`t they just be American)

Anyway I digress, please answer my question then? Who are these "Native Irish you talk of?" Someone has suggested above that it`s native Irish speakers, but with just 20k of them in some tiny West coast villages I doubt that`s what you mean.

I suspect your use of "Native Irish" is a crude, and incredibly ignorant term, for Protestants.

In reality, with 850 years of inward migration from the British mainland, there is no such thing as Native Irish. (and thats taking the people already there as native when we know the Celts were also immigrants to Ireland and not native) Nothing illustrates this inter mixing better than the names of the current Republican leadership - Adams is an English name so where does Gerry Adams fall on your native v non native scale?

I'm very sorry to hear you lost family members.

As far as funding and arming the PIRA is concerned, I think that when you write that the IRA was "funded almost entirely out of American ignorance", this greatly exaggerates the role of Irish-Americans. There was funding of the PIRA of course by Americans of Irish heritage but much more important were other sources such as Gadhafi in particular,especially when he equipped the PIRA like a modern army through the three successful enormous arms shipments in 1984, and also Iran, as well as people in the South, and of course the PIRA's illegal activities such as bank robbery, counterfeiting, smuggling, etc. Gadhafi gave millions of pounds to the PIRA in the 1970s and again at the time of the 1984 weapons smuggling, and Iran gave 4 million pounds to the PIRA in 1980. That was of course in 1980 pounds, worth more today. I'm not saying that American aid was insignificant, but certainly the IRA was not funded "almost entirely" by Americans.

As I wrote in my original post, I believe it is primarily the way the British dealt with the legitimate grievances of the republican/nationalist communities that caused the IRA to return to prominence after it had been on the verge of disappearing. A movement like that can not grow simply because an external source funds it, there has to be a degree of grassroots support for the organization for it to survive. Unfortunately given the fact that Northern Ireland did not have a democratic system of government, and the shamefully brutal manner in which the British government dealt with dissent in the period of time leading up to and during the troubles, laid the groundwork for the IRA to have a resurgence. I wouldn't blame Americans, who formed a minority of support for the PIRA, for the fact that they came back, I would blame first the political forces that created the situation in which they were able to come back to power. For example, there was no effective policing of republican/nationalist/largely catholic communities. There was also essentially a form of gang warfare taking place between groups in republican and loyalist communities. The unfortunate truth is that, due to NI not having had a democratic form of government, and the government being dominated by those hostile to the republican communities, the police forces at best did not assist the republican communities and at worst were in collusion with loyalists in the street warfare that was taking place. How can one expect the republican communities will refuse to allow the IRA to operate and recruit in their communities in this situation? There was no neutral third-party to dampen down and control the violence, which is what the police are supposed to be. The IRA wound up being the last alternative available. If you want to blame suppliers for the growth of the IRA, Gadhafi is clearly your man. But again I think none of this external support means anything if there is not a situation on the group ripe for a group to grow in prominence. Americans could send as many weapons and as much money as they want to Sweden, and there's never going to be a Swedish Liberation Army fighting against the Swedish or any other government.

I think the purpose of public discoruse is for people to talk to one another and try to learn from each other, educate each other, show each other perspectives they didn't have before. While I may have negative things to say about the British Government, Governments usually have little or nothing to do with persons that happen to hold a passport issued by said government, and my presumption is always going to be that any particular individual I communicate with is participating in good faith in a dialogue and that we share common interests, such as the common interest of getting to the bottom of an honest understanding of history, and that both I and such individuals may learn from each other. So I am going to take your sincerity as a given and be polite and congenial with whatever partners in conversation I may have.

>> I suspect your use of "Native Irish" is a crude, and incredibly ignorant term, for Protestants.

This statment is still of borderline politeness.... ("crude and incredibly ignorant")... and probably could have been phrased in a more congenial manner, but I'll go with it.

Did you mean to type "Catholic"? Many of the pioneering Irish republicans were actually presbyterian. The Church was a collaborator with British rule. I dont think the conflict was primarily about religion, though the two sides were largely Catholic vs Protestant.

I was using the term "Native Irish" to refer to the republican/nationalist/largely but not entirely Catholic people, generally of Gaelic heritage, who were in cultural conflict with the orange/loyalist/largely protestant population which was largely of Scottish and English heritage.

However, I see your point about the term "Native". I accept that it may be problematic to use that term to describe one group of people in contrast to another if the other group also has hundreds of years of heritage in the region. Thus, I accept and agree I could have used a better descriptor.

However, I think the main issue historically has been the power discrepancy between these groups of people, rather than whether one or the other group can consider themselves more "native" or not. The main issue of course was the power relationship between these groups of people, and the suffering which was caused by that power discrepancy and how the power discrepancy was utilized by the British government. For example, during the great famine of the mid 1800s, one of these groups of people were well fed because the British controlled the farming resources of Ireland through military power and the British wanted this group to be fed, whereas the other group wound up starving because the plentiful food that Ireland was actually producing throughout the course of the famine was being exported under armed guard, because the British government did not care if they were fed. Ireland produced far more food than would have been necessary to feed the Irish people during the great famine and was a great net food exporter. In that sense, there was no "famine" in Ireland at all in terms of food production. There was plenty of food being produced. It was just commandeered by military forces and shipped out of Ireland to suit British business interests. There were British military garrisons posted across Ireland for the purpose of "protecting" the exported food from being taken by the Irish.

So whether one of these groups of people were more "native" than the other or not really is not the critical point, it's the power relationship between the groups and what happened to each group as a result of that relationship that was important. In the case of the great famine, millions of people died of starvation despite their lands producing more than enough food to feed them, because of British business interests.

strange then that noraid virtualy collapsed after 9-11 with also per say the end of pira as we knew it . The americains dont like it in their own back yard

It has always been interesting to me how people reflexively say "terrorist, terrorist" when they hear of the IRA, but don't say similar things about the British government. If there is a national flag backing up a gun, it makes a moral difference? The british government was conducting extra-judicial murder in the north of Ireland throughout the troubles, just killing people they wanted dead, there are BBC documentaries about this. Is this not terrorism? They also assisted loyalist paramilitaries with intelligence information and hit lists of people they wanted dead, whom the loyalists killed for them. These loyalist organizations were allowed to remain legal and operate openly (not admitting what they were doing publicly, but everyone knew this). The BBC to its credit has made a number of fairly open minded and even handed documentaries about the troubles which document these things.

When people simply say "The majority of people in the North of Ireland want to be in the UK." and think it settles things, this misses a lot of the history and the legitimate grievances of the native Irish in the north. Britain, using physical force/military violence, settled people in Ireland, particularly the north, in order to extract Ireland's wealth and productive capacity and subject the Irish to being serfs. During the great potato famine Ireland was actually a huge exporter of food products - transported from British-owned farms worked by Irish serfs/slaves essentially, with armed military guards transporting the food products so the starving local people could not get a hold of any.

The bottom line is the British populated the north with their settlers, and established economic and social systems where the British immigrant/settler population was superior to the native Irish, systems which have continued to the present day, though improved by the Good Friday agreement. The Irish were shut out of good jobs, shut out of government, shut out of the police forces. The police forces were little more than loyalist thugs, in many cases. The provisional IRA HAD to serve as a local police force in the catholic communities, because the official police were not only not doing their job but were actively antagonistic to catholic communities.

The grievances of the native Irish in the north during the period of the troubles were very grave. The electoral system in Northern Ireland was designed to shut the native Irish out of the system entirely. The system was not "One person, one vote", but rather, votes were allocated only to property owners. Each owner of a home was allowed one vote. The owner of the home exercised the vote, the others living there (children, wives, etc.) did not vote. This dramatically favored the Loyalist community, who historically have been the property owners because the British military made them the property owners, through military violence. Also, business owners were allowed additional votes. This also favored the loyalist communities, who owned the capital and the businesses since British military domination and violence put them in that position.

This sounds unbelievable to us today, but this was the system in the second half of the last century that was used to keep the Irish under foot. Districts were also heavily gerrymandered, guaranteeing loyalist majorities in all bodies of government, even in areas which were native Irish-majority. Plus, "winner-takes-all" policies were used to completely shut out the Irish from government, job opportunities, service on the police forces, etc. It was an atrocious civil rights situation.

Most Irish did try peaceful protest initially to try to change things. The British reaction to this was responsible for the rise of the IRA in the period of the troubles. The IRA had dwindled down to almost disappearing by the 1960s. They were essentially vanished, for all practical purposes. What happened, why did they come roaring back?

The response of the British to peaceful Irish protest is what happened - internment, massacre of peaceful protesters, refusal to implement effective policing for Catholic communities, jury-free trials placing Irish republicans in prisons where they were tortured and beaten, the gross indifference of Thatcher to the hunger strikers, most of them convicted only of being members of the IRA, and by courts run by the British with no juries - who had legitimate complaints about how they were being beaten and tortured in prison, etc., were the major forces promoting recruitment to the IRA during this time. When the Irish tried peaceful protest, the british military massacred them, on bloody sunday, and continued a policy of extensive extrajudicial murder which has been thoroughly documented by the BBC and others. The British government essentially gave the native Irish of the north two choices - stay down with our boots on your necks, or join the IRA. The situation is a lot more complex than "Terrorizers" versus "British democracy". The bottom line is the history of British cruelty and occupation has placed all the people who now live in the north in a very difficult situation.

When finally the British government decided to stop responding to the situation with escalating extrajudicial violence, and serious efforts were made to address the legitimate grievances of the native Irish in the north, culminating in the Good Friday agreement, then the situation improved, and the PIRA agreed to disarm and disband.

Hopefully the peace can last. The way forward involves an understanding of the actual history of the region, and understanding of how British policy and brutality over the centuries has placed both sides in the North - both the native Irish and those who are descended from the settlers sent by Britain to exploit Ireland a few hundred years ago - in a difficult situation, and hopefully commitment by all to addressing the legitimate grievances and needs of all parties can lead to a lasting peace for everyone. We dont need name calling, just honest analysis of history and the present, and a committment to finding a better way.

The real history, thanks a million!

not my fault they couldnt grow potatoes

Thailand to celebrate close relations with North Korea

By Coconuts Bangkok

BANGKOK: -- The military junta is preparing to hold a celebration to mark the 40th anniversary of Thailand’s and North Korea's diplomatic relations while North Korea has proposed that Thailand opens an embassy in its capital.

Deputy Prime Minister Wisanu Krue-ngam welcomed Mun Song Mo, Ambassador of North Korea, yesterday morning at Government House as the two countries aim to strengthen ties, according to a report on Thailand's official government website.

North Korea proposed stronger economic cooperation between the nations and suggested Thailand opens an embassy in Pyongyang to benefit future Thai investors in North Korea and foster cultural exchange.

Wisanu said he has acknowledged the proposal, which will be discussed in several government sectors.

Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co//2015/01/08/thailand-celebrate-close-relations-north-korea

-- Coconuts Bangkok 2015-01-08

bye bye americas money

Left polite notes? That'll change nothing, Key them up!

in samui they just slash ya tires for parking outside mom pop shop

confessed to robbing at least six other students + stabbed two students.

If they are poor they will get some years in prison.

If they are rich they get bail and could appeal.

if rich not one day jail back on street doing it again koh tao same same

How about basics as consultation fees ect

@Baerboxer

You

You'd need to be incredibly dumb to actually believe violence could win over the long term. It never has and many of those who live by the sword die by it. Thatcher, I think, despised the IRA for the cowardly murders of people including her friend the WW2 hero Airey Neave, But she realized the the IRA, INLA, UDA, UVF and UFF were not the entire population. You can't strife for a fair and just society in the UK and leave out Ulster.

Martin McGuiness and Ian Paisley saw this, and were able to put the past aside and work hard together to achieve real progress. Dinosaurs like Adams were sidelined.

Do you know of any politician who isn't two (or more when necessary) faced?

Me

The IRA didn't murder Airey Neave, that was the INLA.

Adams hasn't been sidelined and is still a leading figure in the movement to unite Eire after the unilateral partition of it by the English, thankfully a peaceful movement.

Thatcher was one of the most despicable politicians of the recent past. All politicians lie I agree but her lies destroyed communities.

However that all said I agree with your condemnation of violence.

It is never a solution.

Thatcher was a politician I will never forgive but she wasn't stupid and realised that violence had failed.

All sides including the govt have blood on their hands because of the violence perpetrated by the paramilitary groups. All of them.

That is past.

A treaty was signed.

Peace has been achieved.

We all need to move on.

Was it the INLA who murdered Neave? They claimed responsibility although other theories exist. Anyway he was murdered, probably by Irish terrorists which I'm sure Mrs Thatcher would have noted.

You may view Thatcher how you want to, from an Irish perspective, but she took over a UK that had become the sick man of Europe being completely <deleted> up by trades unions that had been infiltrated by the extreme left. She was the medicine the UK needed at that time, however unpalatable that may have been. She was democratically elected, the longest serving PM of the 20th century and the only woman to hold that office. So, many did not support your view. Like many, she arguable went too far in the other direction.

Violence creates more violence as a response, which creates more violence. A vicious cycle. Once someone becomes embroiled it's hard to break out of. Adams still spouts the old rhetoric. He's held in check, and pushed south of the border. Understandable. McGuiness, has the intelligence and honesty to admit the wrong doings, on all sides, of the past and expresses correctly how things that seemed right at the time, can be seen to be so wrong later.

A deal was done, an agreement signed. There are dissidents and criminals hiding under political banners who still need dealing with. This warrant jumper is possibly an example. Peace anywhere is fragile - just look at how quickly violence has erupted all around the world.

One poster on this thread supports the idea of political violence, and even advocates it in support of a united Ireland, even though the majority in Ulster want to remain part of the UK. Whilst people think like that violence will always be just below the surface.

... and the majority of people in the Republic want to see Ireland reunited again. So who do we listen to? The wishes of the people of Ulster or the people of the Republic? I know! Why don't we listen to what the "majority of people on the island of Ireland" want... both from Ulster and the Republic.

Ireland should be grateful that we're nicer in the UK towards terrorists than the Americans are. Otherwise we'd have just gone to war on Ireland to teach them how terrorists should have been dealt with. That process of listening to the needs of the British people would take approximately a week.

I'm afraid there seems to be a misunderstanding here: I was referring to the "people of Ulster and the Republic"... I really don't understand how you can refer to "terrorists" in your reply. Or do you simply assume that both are one and the same?

Considering the fact that for hundreds of years, various English kings, queens and governments tried, and failed, to deal with Ireland I find it amusing that you believe the British people would only take "approximately a week" to deal with this problem. Quite amusing really... it was american money esp from new york that bank roled these scum all stopped after 9-11 didnt it not in my back yard mentality

The finnigan git tommi what ever his basftd name is seems to be in samui ive looked on the news section and cannot find the story anylinks with photos would be apprrciated i dont believe in grassing prople but i would be happy to see the finnigan git hang

Thai tourist dies falling from cliff in Bhutan

A 54-year-old Thai female tourist has died after falling off a cliff in Bhutan, according to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Based on a report from the Royal Thai Embassy in Dhaka, Bangladesh, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that the tourist fell off the cliff near Taktsang monastery in Paro, Bhutan.

She is said to been have traveling with a local tour group.

Officials have not yet concluded the cause of the accident but commented that the women may have fallen from the cliff while photographing the scenery.

Her body has already been retrieved and will be sent back to her home country courtesy of Dasho Ugen Tsechup Dorji, the honorary Consul of the Royal Thai Consulate, Thimphu.

Paro Taktsang monastery sits on a cliff in Bhutan. It is a must-visit place for tourists to the country.

The name of the victim and the cause of the accident remained unknown.

Rescue workers pulled the body from the site and the embassy had coordinated with Dasho Ugen Tshechup Dorji , the Thai honourary consul in Thimphu, to arrange for transport of the body to Thailand, the ministry said.

Bhutan police, meanwhile, the Thasi tourist might have fallen from a narrow path which has no railing.

They said the path is so narrow that could allow the railing to be built.

It is also a place where the lanterns were placed by the monastery.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/thai-tourist-dies-falling-cliff-bhutan

-- Thai PBS 2015-01-13

very sad however show her the respect or lack of it that thais show to dead forigners ie pics of her mutilated body ect

For a pedigree breed like that my friend i would go on the internet and look for a repretable breeder more than likely in bangkok area not a prop to arranged to get puppy flown down to samui and not expensive either good luck