AseanLao

Moan, moan, moan ...

If Thailand said "Everyone can stay for as long as they like", there would still be people who would find fault ????

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4 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

You missed my point about the possibility of forum advice being sound.

 

 

The answer is a simple "no" to the question about having to pay for medical care on returning to England.

I agree that the advice here is generally good. But the topic of "Paying for NHS care as a returning expat" has been done to death here, and many posters have deeply held opinions on the subject. Talk of "cheating the NHS" and "paying 150%" is very unhelpful IMO.

I think the answer is "no" as well, but in his position I would certainly make a quick (free) call to the immigration guys at the Citizen's Advice Bureau before booking my flights home.

12 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Don't try that theory in Thailand........what goes on on the ground is often somewhat different to what is written in a book.

 

Some Aseannow.com posters may actually have some experience of dealing with those differences.

But my post had nothing to do with Thailand ... it concerned whether or not he would be entitled to free medical treatment if he returned to the UK.

I notice that zero posters in this thread have reported needing to pay for medical care on returning to the UK.

Just now, BritManToo said:

Do they ask every person that visits a UK hospital these questions?

I've certainly never encountered them.

They check to see if you have a suspiciously permanent looking suntan first ...

I suppose questions might get asked if you weren't registered with any UK doctor's surgery?

1 minute ago, yogi yogi said:

u mean mothers against drunken driving?

A lot of Thai mothers seem to support drunken driving ????

7 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

The information you posted regarding the CAB link has already been posted a few times in this thread but posters seem to ignore what they're being told. I agree with the CAB link.

I suspect that they will brush aside the matter of him being away for 30 years if he does get a plane home, especially if he still has a UK address or is registered at a doctor's surgery.

I'd probably call someone like the CAB to check before I booked my tickets home, though ????

This is from the Royal Thai Embassy, Phnom Penh, Cambodia:

https://phnompenh.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/steps-to-take-for-traveling-to-thailand-as-a-foreigner

STEPS TO TAKE FOR TRAVELING TO THAILAND AS A FOREIGNER

Steps to Take for Traveling to Thailand as a Foreigner

*** The information provided here is updated regularly and therefore subject to change without prior notice ***

1. Apply for Your Visa

If you need a visa (some people do not, see here), you must apply for an appropriate visa at the Royal Thai Embassy. You can attend in person or use an agent. Visa applications received by mail – electronic or postal – will be rejected. The documents required are provided in the list below.

          09:00–10:00 AM     document submission (no appointment required)
          02:00–03:00 PM     visa collection (*Please allow 1-3 working days for visa processing.)

Kindly note that persons of all nationalities can apply for a visa at the Royal Thai Embassy. However, there are additional documents that nationals of some countries need to provide and/or procedures to follow in order to receive approval from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Thailand, which takes at least 1 month. Please see here (click).

You can download a visa application form here (click). Please see the details of each type of visa below:

          - Tourist Visa (TR)
          - Special Tourist Visa (STV)
          - Visa on Arrival
          - Medical Tourist Visa (MT)
          - Non-Immigrant O Visa (Medical) * same as Medical Tourist Visa (MT) but the allowed stay in Thailand is 90 days maximum and the visa processing fee is 80 USD.
          - Non-Immigrant O Visa (Thai Family)
          - Non-Immigrant O Visa (Retirement)
          - Non-Immigrant O-A Visa
          - Non-Immigrant O-X Visa
          - Non-Immigrant ED Visa (Student)
          - Non-Immigrant B Visa (Business, Work)

For visa inquiry, please call (+855) 23726307-8.

If you wish to come to Cambodia to apply for a Thai visa with the Royal Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh, please also take note of Cambodia's entry measures here (click).

2. Book Your Flight, Book Your Hotel, and Prepare Your Insurance

*** Land entry is not permissible, except for those who seek medical treatment and their accompanying people only. If you wish to do so, please contact your hospital from these lists (http://www.hsscovid.com/files/Alternative Hospital Quarantine.pdf and http://www.hsscovid.com/files/Alternative Hospital Quarantine2.pdf) to apply for a confirmation letter and an affidavit of support from the Department of Health Service Support, Ministry of Public Health of Thailand). You will apply for a visa and a COE with the Royal Thai Embassy. ***

Flight: All travelers will be allowed to enter Thailand by air. Flight options include chartering your own flight, traveling with a chartered flight organized by a travel agency (click), traveling with a commercial flight (some airlines have resumed their services between Thailand and Cambodia or via a third country, such as Singapore, South Korea, etc.).

Hotel: You must book a hotel (AQ or SHA+, check here) for a certain number of quarantine days depending on your scheme below. You can book on the following websites as well: https://www.agoda.com/quarantineTH https://asq.locanation.com/ https://asq.ascendtravel.com/ https://asqthailand.com/ and https://entrythailand.go.th/asq 

You're probably better off doing some proper research than relying on the opinion of aseannow.com posters.

Here's what the UK Citizen's Advice Bureau has to say about "NHS charges for people from abroad":

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/health/help-with-health-costs/nhs-charges-for-people-from-abroad/

Give them a call on 0800 144 8848, and speak to somebody who actually deals with these kind of issues every day.

1 hour ago, yogi yogi said:

yes but so many do not drink responsibly and damage lives of those of us who dont booze it up at all

The Thai Wives Temperance Movement is a force to be reckoned with ... ????

On 11/14/2021 at 11:48 PM, DrJack54 said:

Thinking you would need to be pretty desperate.

Bangkok airways are generally expensive. 

Obtaining a tourist visa in PP best suited to using an agent (not essential) 

Personally I'm thinking the border bounce and obtaining an overnight tourist visa won't really be an option until a land border opens. Laos would be great option if/when.

When that happens is anyone's guess. 

 

 

You can get a return ticket BKK > PNH for under 5,000 baht. You'd have to be crazy to want to start using the land borders at this moment in time.

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Please outline that procedure in detail.

Fly into Cambodia then return??

Will require a TP.

CRAZY suggestion.

Ridiculous.

Visa runs have been impractical or even impossible until very recently.

But on the Royal Thai Embassy, Phnom Penh, Cambodia, they seem to be saying that it's possible.

 "STEPS TO TAKE FOR TRAVELING TO THAILAND AS A FOREIGNER"

https://phnompenh.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/steps-to-take-for-traveling-to-thailand-as-a-foreigner

Step 1) Apply for Visa

and then Step 2)

2. Book Your Flight, Book Your Hotel, and Prepare Your Insurance

*** Land entry is not permissible, except for those who seek medical treatment and their accompanying people only. If you wish to do so, please contact your hospital from these lists (http://www.hsscovid.com/files/Alternative%20Hospital%20Quarantine.pdf and http://www.hsscovid.com/files/Alternative%20Hospital%20Quarantine2.pdf) to apply for a confirmation letter and an affidavit of support from the Department of Health Service Support, Ministry of Public Health of Thailand). You will apply for a visa and a COE with the Royal Thai Embassy. ***

Flight: All travelers will be allowed to enter Thailand by air. Flight options include chartering your own flight, traveling with a chartered flight organized by a travel agency (click), traveling with a commercial flight (some airlines have resumed their services between Thailand and Cambodia or via a third country, such as Singapore, South Korea, etc.).

Hotel: You must book a hotel (AQ or SHA+, check here) for a certain number of quarantine days depending on your scheme below. You can book on the following websites as well: https://www.agoda.com/quarantineTH https://asq.locanation.com/ https://asq.ascendtravel.com/ https://asqthailand.com/ and https://entrythailand.go.th/asq 

So it appears that it's possible. That said, I wouldn't like to be the first person to try it out ????

4 hours ago, big dendrobenaes said:

if you NOT trust them then do it yourself......I DID a few yrs ago SAVED MYSELF 12 baht.........

Did you buy yourself anything special with your savings? Some Mama noodles, perhaps, or a bottle of water?

It's right there in the opening post of this topic:

On 11/20/2021 at 7:38 PM, 3NUMBAS said:

A doctor who "selflessly dedicated" himself to treating Covid patients has died of the virus.

Reintroducing 14-day quarantine for foreigners should make sure this doesn't happen again. Also permanently banning all alcohol sales on the island.

7 hours ago, Puccini said:

What vaccine was available so early that the second shot could be administered in January 2021?

Many UK over 80s, medical professionals and  care home workers got vaccinated Dec 2020, with their second jab 3 weeks later. The rules were changed shortly after to allow for a gap of up to 12 weeks between the 1st and 2nd jabs.

At the earliest stage, everybody was getting Pfizer, AZ supplies kicked in around January.

3 minutes ago, ross163103 said:

What about years ago when there weren't droves of Chinese coming(?); Thailand seemed to be doing alright then. Guess the govt has gotten addicted to the Chinese yuan since then.

Most of the Chinese money goes directly to big business, since they don't frequent any local establishments. Also, when you have 12M Chinese coming a year (for a week), it makes their contribution look hugely important.

Perhaps it's time for Thailand to start calculating the number of days each nationality spends in Thailand.

By the way, thanks for all the excellent replies in this topic. Very much appreciated.

6 hours ago, relax33 said:

Chinese investors spent $2.3 bln in Thai property in 2018 - Thailand Business News (thailand-business-news.com)

Thailand property: Chinese buying interest has surged in recent years (cnbc.com)

problem is that they like to spend $ buying tangible stuff like property rather than on petty cash items like beer  ..

although the amount spent on Thai prop is relatively small at  2.3 bil usd  compared to the 30 bil  spent on US prop, the 16 bil spent on HK prop n the 14 bill spent on aussie prop.
N that is for 2018 with the figures for 2019 being supposedly higher 

 

Well, you said it. $2.3B dollars is a tiny fraction of the $62B that Thailand received in 2019 from tourism.

I may only spend x00,000 baht a month on "petty cash items like beer", but it all adds up. Let's see how much Chinese investors are willing to blow on Thai condos in the current economic climate. One article that I can't quote said Chinese transactions were down 31% from 2019 to 2020.