MisterMr

Hello

My wife just had scanned the documents at VFS biometric appointment, and forgot to include mum’s passport bio page. Is that a problem? Is there anything we can do? I’m worried because we said we’ll include it but forgot it.

Thank you for all your kind input, it’s been very helpful. I’m just going to go ahead now.
 

All the best.

9 hours ago, Tony M said:

You can't upload documents before the application is submitted online, and submitting means paying too.  You said you were using the VFS scanning at the application centre ?   That will cost 3,000 THB. Self-uploading is free (after you have paid the fee to submit online).

I keep thinking about both options. My wife is worried about tech problems. We just wanted to get a feel of the website before jumping in. But we will probably get them scanned at the Centre.
 

I’d just like to double check. The title deeds are from January 2022, but the council statements tax are from March 2021, mortgage payment statements are from April 2021, the environmental search and layout from the papers when the flat was bought are from 2002. Are the older documents ok? I was thinking of including a copy of my mum’s passport because she owns the property.

Thank you

How can we self upload before we pay? We’re using VFS outside the UK.

Thank you both, I will work on it.

Sorry above was a mistake. I messed up the screenshots.

Thank you. Here is my cover letter. Could I please get an opinion? I can’t get it down to 1 page. Should I hand sign every page 1 and 2? Thank you

7 hours ago, Tony M said:

"People Administrator" ?   I've never heard that before !    Yes, it's okay or them to sign it.

Hi, yeah in this company HR is referred as The People Team. It’s not hand signed though it’s a digital signature of the administrator, Is that ok? Cheers

Is it enough for the employer letter to be signed by the People Administrator (HR Admin)? This is all my company are willing to provide.

9 hours ago, Tony M said:

Where did you "hear" that ?

Hello Tony. I heard it on expat forum I think searching through old threads I think. I’ll try to get a screenshot.

Hello 

With the 28 day rule the documents mustn’t be older than that from the day of the online application and must have been dated before the date of submission of online application, but I heard that if the premium service is used the 28 day rule applies to date of the biometrics appointment instead. Is that correct?

26 minutes ago, Tony M said:

No need to mention it unless it makes you feel better.   UKVI  aren't really interested in the reasons why anyone would cancel an application.

 

Yes, you can start a new application anytime you want.

Nice! Thanks for that ????

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So we went ahead and cancelled. No appointments booked. So we just just start a new one now? And should we mention that we cancelled the first one and the reason in the new application?

Forgive me for being dumb.

I read it here: https://visa.vfsglobal.com/irn/en/gbr/supporting-documents

“You can submit photocopies of documents for scanning, but they must be A4 size, legible and preferably in colour.”

We’re going to use the scanning service at VFS. Can she bring colour printouts of the scanned documents to the biometric appointment? She doesn’t want to make a mistake with self uploading. Thank you

Hi Tony, I’ve messaged the information. This this super helpful and kind of you ????

8 hours ago, Tony M said:

You are confused. I think.  It sounds like it should be Category A, and your "annualised" salary will be calculated on the income from the 6 months prior to the date of application (you say you submitted on 20th January). I say that it sounds like Category A, as the category can depend on your current income, or if you are in non-salaried, rather than salaried, employment. 

 

After the online application is submitted, you cannot add later - dated wage slips, etc. If there is a wage slip missing from the submitted documents, and it is the last wage slip or bank statement in a series, then the ECO might ask for you to submit it. If it is a wage slip(s) or bank statement(s) from somewhere in the 6 months of submitted wage slips, then the ECO might not/should not include that salary payment in his calculation of your annualised salary.

 

Yes, fill out the Appendix 2.  I'm not sure why applicants still need to submit this form, as most, if not all, of the information is now included in the online application form. It does, however, require you to state what category you are applying under.

 

If you are in a real panic, or now think that you don't met the requirement, then you can cancel the application and re-submit  at a later date. You can request a refund of the visa fee(s) but it will take a month or so for the UKVI to get the refund to you. You can still re-submit while you are waiting for the refund, but you will need another few thousand GBP to re-submit !

 

We don't know if you qualify financially or not. As said, it will probably depend on your income in the 6 months prior to the date of application (Category A). But if you want to give details of your income, then you can send me a private message with a copy of your latest wage slip (you can blank out your personal details, NI number , etc), and I will try to calculate your annualised salary.  If you don't get the same basic salary every month in the last 6 months, then let me know that also. 

 

Have you made an appontment for the applicant to attend to give biometrics ? What is that date ? You can postpone the appointment, if necessary, and you can submit documents up to the date of doing the biometrics (the date you paid the fee is the application date).  The ECO will, however, calculate your annualised salary on documents covering the 6 months prior to the date of application.

 

Thanks to others who have also commented here. All advice has been good !

Thank very much Tony that is very kind of you. I will pm the details shortly. This is very much appreciated. My wife and I are both stressed out from this.

7 minutes ago, bigyin said:

My recent experience has been with ILR and citizenship And my opinion would be that if they require one more payslip and a bank statement then they will ask you for it rather than reject the application. They reject applications which clearly fail to meet the requirements but not normally for applications where it is simply a question of a missing document. Tony M was at one time an entry clearance officer so if he sees this he might be able to confirm that my understanding is correct. At the end of the day of course it has to be up to you as to how you want to proceed As I wouldn’t want you to take my advice and then have it rejected. As I say, however, my opinion is that it would  not be.

No way, I would never blame anyone for giving me their input. I need to do my own research afterwards. I appreciate your opinion. 
 

I really hope that they have some understanding and grace as it’s just 1 day after the application. I’m super stressed and I think my head is gonna explode from worry.

Thank you bigyin. I think I’ve made a big mistake.mwhen did the application form online and paid on the 20th Jan. But my latest payslip on the 21st of Jan and bank statement on the 21st. I just knew the oldest document had to be within 28 days. I’m worried they will fail us because I’ve just read it documents can be after the date of application.
 

Should I contact the home office to tell them? Or cancel and redo it with or without the refund?

I couldn’t edit my above post. So just to be clear I’ve been with the same employer, earning more than £18600 a year. So is it category A or B? 

On 1/22/2022 at 12:32 AM, Tony M said:

You seem to be complicating the matter.  What category are you under as a sponsor meeting the financial requirement ?   Salaried employment, non-salaried employment, Category A or B ?    If you are meeting the requirement as a "basic" sponsor (normally, in salaried employment for more than 6 months with the same employer) then the ECO  only requires 6 months of wage slips to calculate your income. But, if you are intending to also demonstrate your income over a period of time (to show that you have been paid at the same salary for a long period) then it doesn't matter how many wage slips you send over and above the required 6 months as long as it is evidencing your claimed income level. Please don't take this the wrong way, but do you fully understand the financial requirements for sponsoring a spouse visa ?  

Hi Tony thank you, sorry I’m getting into a bit of a panic and mix up. Umm I have been with my employer for more than a year, so I think it’s category B. So I decided to cover a 12 month period of payslips and bank statements January 2021 to January 2022. But I didn’t see anywhere on the form where I could select category B.

Do we need to fill in Appendix 2 VAF4A? 
 

By the time we finish this process I would have aged 20 years ????
 

Thanks again

Global Thailand thank you very much.

My latest payslip was from yesterday. If I provide payslips from January 2021 to January 2022 that’s 13. Or should I just give from February 2021 to January 2022? Providing an extra one can’t be as bad as providing less?

I was able to get them to add payslips are genuine. Is this better?

2 hours ago, globalThailand said:

I think that may well be true.  My lawyer made an offhand comment about our application saying any day after the 19th means I'd need another payslip.  I didn't pick him up on why at the time but it makes sense as I too had the early Xmas payslip

 

As for marking the statements - would suggest not trying to direct the ECO attention anywhere and leave things unmarked - it's what they are paid to look at after all (and the amount these visa's cost let them earn their crust ???? )

Ok great, that you. ???? 
 

Because I’m living with my parents I need to show land registry and mortgage payments. The mortgage statements come from April 2020 to March 2021. They don’t send monthly ones. Should I ask for mortgage statements from this month going back 6 moths?

Hi thank you. I’m about apply, my last payslip was from 21st December 2021. I heard something about the last payslip can’t be more 28 days old is that true? Also I was told not to user a highlighter on bank statements but how can I make it easier for the ECO, use a pencil?

17 hours ago, Tony M said:

I don't know if that has ever been tried, but my feeling is "no".  Why don't you upload the documents yourself online, and your wife do the same in Thailand.  I'm sure any internet cafe/shop will assist in scanning and uploading for you.  However, having said that, maybe it is possible to upload some documents at VFS in the UK. Costwise, it's probably cheaper to send all of the documents to your wife in Thailand (scanning at VFS in Thailand is around 60 GBP and, I think, around 75 GBP in the UK).  You could try asking VFS (and let us know the answer, please) :

 

[email protected]

Hi Tony

Thanks a lot. 
 

My wife recently updated passport. The thing is, the old one has all travel history and stamps etc, should we just include this in extra information?