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At the moment I have a non O visa for marriage from Savannakhet, Laos, but the next time I apply for this visa I will go to Chaeng Wattana.
I have heard that after you have been given the visa, the immigration will visit your home to check up. I just want to know if this is the case and if it has happened to anybody.
Any feedback would be much appreciated.
Cheers
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If you have obtained your Non O visa at Chaeng Wattana, has anybody ever been visited by the immigration at your address?
I've heard they do spot checks now and then.
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My visa run to Savannakhet for a multiple entry non o visa based on marriage. The journey started on the 25th March 2015.
A few details first; I went with my wife from Prachinburi province, not Bangkok. We took a bus from Kabinburi to Korat, then to Mukdahan and that about 9 hours travelling in all.
We arrived in Mukdahan around 5pm and got a tuktuk straight to the hotel, Rabiang Muk. The tuktuk was 30 or 40 baht each. (tuktuks in the north and in Laos seem to charge per person, not just the journey)
Lovely hotel. Looks new, very clean and well-furnished with air-con and hot water. 550 baht per night. We booked the hotel prior to arriving. There is also a hotel car park if you drive and it is located about a 5 to 10 minute walk from a market with many food stalls and other restaurants. It’s about 7km from the border.
The next morning, just after 7am, we got a tuktuk to the Friendship bridge border, 100 baht each. It was very quiet. There were maybe 20 or so Asean community people and only three farrangs at the border, so only took about 10 to 15 minutes to get to the Laos side. On the Laos side, got the application form, filled it in and handed it in with 1500 baht. Took about 10 minutes in total.
Got a tuktuk straight away to the Thai consulate, again 100 baht each. We go there around 8am. I had downloaded and filled in the application form prior to arriving, had photos and copies already, so didn’t need to use the copy services available. However, I did get one of the guys to check my application form and docs to make sure they were ok. I didn’t get charged for this.
My documents;
Application form filled in (with multiple entry written on the top by visa type) with 2 photos. (My photos were slightly smaller than passport size, and I was not wearing my glasses in the photos)
Passport with copy of photo page, signed and dated.
My wife’s ID card and copy of both sides on one piece of paper, signed and dated by her.
Her Tabian Baan with copy of both pages on one piece of paper, signed and dated by her.
The original marriage certificate with the other original documents received when got married. All copied, front and back, and signed and dated by my wife and I.
Consulate opened at 9am, and without rushing, got number 12. It only took about 15 to 20 minutes to be seen. The guy on the counter does appear to be miserable and unhelpful, but he is efficient. I gave him the application form with the passport, then the original docs. He looked at the original marriage certificate, nothing else! Not my wife’s ID card, the Tabian Baan, or any other marriage docs we had. The bank book was NOT requested. The only thing he said to me was 5000 baht. Handed over and finished.
Jumped in the tuktuk of the guy that helped with the docs and he took us to a hotel, 100 baht each again. The Hoong Thip Hotel, 600 baht a night. Expensive as the hotel looks a little dilapidated and there was no hot water. However, the room was clean and it did have aircon. Also, the hotel was about a 5 minute walk to the Mekong River and close to a few restaurants, so not a bad location.
The next afternoon, the same tuktuk driver took us back to the consulate and at 2pm, were allowed in. There is no number service, it is first come, first serve, so people started queuing about 10 minutes beforehand. About 15 people in front of me, but only took about 15 minutes to get my passport back with a multiple entry non o visa for marriage.
Straight to the border, 100 baht each again. We got to Mukdahan bus station just before 4pm, so only around two hours from picking up the visa, leaving Laos and entering Thailand. Pretty painless really.
So, have a new multiple entry visa from 26th March. Need to do a border run every 90 days and before the visa expires, do another border run to get another 90 days, which equates to 15 months.
All in all, the trip was about 12,000 baht but that was for two us, treating it like a mini holiday. That is the cost of transport, visas, hotels, food, etc.
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Thanks for all your help Ubonjoe.
Much appreciated
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Just a quick list check to get a non o visa for marriage;
My passport with one copy of the photo page. (not the visa page)
Copy of my wife's ID card, front and back, on one piece of paper.
Original marriage cert with one copy, front and back on same piece of paper.
Originals and copies of other documents given to us when we got married. Don't know what they are.
My wife's original Tabian Baan book with one copy of the only two pages typed on, on one piece of paper
Two photos about passport size with whitish background and without my glasses on. The same photos that were accepted at the Thai Consulate in Vientiane.
My wife in tow. Let's make it a holiday, if not a little stressful.
I will sign and date, on the day I go to get the visa, on my passport copy. My wife will sign and date her ID and Tabian Baan copies.
Do we both sign the marriage cert copies?
Thanks in advance
Andrew
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An address in Laos is not needed.
Thanks again
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Going for my Non-O visa for marriage next week. Going to pay for the 12 month visa.
Have original marriage cert, wife's ID card and blue book and multiple copies of everything. Also, I have photos to take and the 500 baht fee.
Have I forgotten anything?
Also, can someone please clarify the 12 month visa. Does this mean a border run every 90 days or 90 day reporting at immigration?
Fee is Bt 5,000 not 500. Copies have to be signed. Original of ID and house book are not needed.
With a multi'entry visa you need to make a border hop every 90 days unless you extend each entry for further 60 days at immigration. Fee Bt 1,900.
Oops. I meant 5000, not 500. 500 would be great though.
Are they choosy regarding photos? ie; background colour, exact size, glasses or no glasses
I'm taking everything with me, plus the wife, just in case.
Cheers for the reply
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Sorry, one more
On section 2, do you need to write in a present address in Laos or can you leave it blank?
I'll be going to the consulate straight from the border, so won't know any places there
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Guarantor in Laos leave blank. Thailand write self.
Intended stay would be 90 days since the is how long each entry will be.
Fantastic!
Ubonjoe, you're a star
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Hi,
Just looking at the Savannakhet form now. What should you write in section 5? It asks for the name and address of a guarantor in Laos and in Thailand.
Also in section 4, it asks about duration of proposed stay. I'm presuming I put 12 months because I'm applying for the 1 year visa, but if someone can confirm, it will be much appreciated.
Regards
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Going for my Non-O visa for marriage next week. Going to pay for the 12 month visa.
Have original marriage cert, wife's ID card and blue book and multiple copies of everything. Also, I have photos to take and the 500 baht fee.
Have I forgotten anything?
Also, can someone please clarify the 12 month visa. Does this mean a border run every 90 days or 90 day reporting at immigration?
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You cry racism yet refer to others as farangs. tut tut.
Farang has no racist connotation to me. If I have offended you I apologize. In china all foreigners epi non Chinese are referred to as Lowai.
Don't worry oiboy, there are still a few knobs on this forum who thinks the word farang is offensive. Ignore them.
Your OP is well-written and I feel for your plight. Is this your first time in Thailand? Do you encounter these types of behavior all the time in Thailand? Just wondering if it's isolated to certain areas. Thais--particularly in tourist areas--have a tendency to treat groups of people the same based on past experiences. I have heard that Indian tourists in the past (not sure if still the case today) have a reputation for being cheap-charlies. Regardless, the way you were treated is not right and I hope these incidences are the exception and not the norm during your time here.
If I am on the street and I am referred to as a farang, then fine. I am the white guy stood there. What irks me is when I am referred to as the farang teacher, usually in front of my face, when everybody knows I am English and everybody knows my name.
As for whether people in Thailand are racist, in my experience I would have to say a great many are, but most of my experience is with regards to schools, not in normal, everyday life. Schools request native English speakers, but when you show them a teacher who is not white, even though they are a NES, they do not want that teacher and will usually pick another teacher of inferior quality, and what do you know, they're white.
I find this disturbing, as this is from the education system, so what are they teaching these kids.
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What should I put on the Affirmation of Marital form if I am not currently working?
I was just going to put not working until I read somewhere else that said not to write unemployed. You must put an occupation and a salary.
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Prayut has a point about protecting oneself. I agree and if I had a daughter, I would be saying the same thing. However, his timing and wording of the statement should have been thought out better.
Whether the victims were scantily clad or not, it is an horrific act to have happened and unfortunately it is something that happens all over the world, not just Thailand. We live in a dangerous world and there are some evil people out there who have a complete disregard for life. It is also shocking but sadly true that many of these crimes go unpunished because the attacker is never found.
My thoughts are with the families of the victims and my hope is that the police may find the vile attacker(s) of this horrendous crime.
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Couldn't agree more, however, the problem is the current requirements prevent good teachers from being employed legally. A degree in Psychology doesn't make someone a good teacher."So, this is an ongoing problem that needs to be resolved, as it can lead to a shortage of English teachers and guides," he said during his weekly TV programme.
How about enforcing the schools to adhere to the law and providing work permits instead of keeping teachers semi-illegal.
Someone who is passionate about teaching, does preparation, knows how to get the best out of their students, has done a teaching course, how to correct and make their students better and knows how to teach is what makes a good teacher.
I wish for the day they scrap the degree requirement and do a teaching observation and screening instead. Then, everyone wins, bar the bad teachers.
Unfortunately, it's the MOE I believe that needs to wake up to this.
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Who has the time/resources to monitor a person who possesses no credentials whatsoever?
It does not take any degree of intelligence to get a certificate in TEFL (or any other similar program). But does that make a teacher? Heck no!
I want a person who has taken Child Psychology classes; a person that has demonstrated beyond the shadow of a doubt that they can complete a university degree (which btw, isn't difficult).
Whether a university educated person, regardless if they studied teaching, psychology or under-water basket weaving, will make a good teach is anyone's guess. However, I'll wager my money these educated people will probably almost always be better at teaching than some retard high-school drop-out.
I have hired and fired many a teacher in my time, some with degrees and some without. The level of education of a teacher has never been a good barometer of a person's ability to teach. Not in my experience.
The ability and skills to teach don't just mean walking into a classroom. It involves planning classes, making flash cards and worksheets, planning activities, being professional in appearance and personality. The whole package.
I've had teachers without degrees work like this and teachers with degrees not making any effort whatsoever. And of course vice versa.
People without degrees are not simply "retard high school drop-outs." Some have finished college at least (college in the UK is A-Level before going to Uni), some have taken a successful route into employment, some simply can't afford to go to university. There are many reasons for not having a university degree, not just a lack of intelligence.
Also, I am astounded at the number of CVs/resumes received from degree holders with an inability to spell or form coherent sentences properly. I can only presume the standard of degrees has decreased somewhat.
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Is it possible to obtain a WP without a degree, if one works for a teaching agency?
The job does not include teaching, it is liaising with foreign teachers, posting jobs, reading emails and resumes, giving advise, helping with enquiries and the like. The job does not require visiting schools.
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I work for a teaching agency in Bangkok. Last year and more so this year, we are finding it harder to find teachers. We're just not getting the number of applicants we used to and also the experience level and quality of applicants has reduced.
Without getting full facts, I can only hazard a guess that many teachers have moved on to pastures new or more teachers are sticking with their current jobs because of difficulties with visa laws changing.
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Not sure if this question is relevant for the immigration, but it needs to be asked.
What is the possibility of changing the rules for the need for teachers to have a degree to teach children in Thailand?
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If a person has a non-o visa and then obtains a work permit as a teacher in a school, would the non-o be cancelled and a non-b be issued in its place?
Please advise
cheers
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Thanks for the info.
Does anybody have any info. with my other qustions?
Cheers for any help
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I am going to do a VOA run to Cambodia and just have a few queries about counting the days for the 6 month period, when can go and best borders.
I have had 2 TV and 2 TV extensions. I went to Laos obtained a 2 month TV, then the extension and did the process over again, so that will be approximately 6 months since my last VOA. My visa runs out on the 16th April, still during the holiday.
Are the regulations or the border people exact about the 6 months or are they more relaxed, give or take several days less, maybe a week less? I don't envisage there being any problems but just want to check.
Also, I may well be in Burilam (not far from Korat) for the holiday and probably doing the visa run solo, no group tour. I want to be able to go to a border and not be shocked with requests for flight tickets, being refused entry, etc. Somebody has mentioned a border stop called Chongjom (don't know if spelt correctly), but I have never heard of it.
If Chongjom is a border stop is it a viable option. ie. hassle free?
Are there any other border stops in this area which I could use?
Thanks in advance for any assistance given!
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I have read a few posts regarding changes in the law with obtaining TV's, so was wondering if there has been any change when applying for a TV extension at the immigration. Do I need any other documentation, flight ticket, etc?
Thanks in advance.
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My friend will be coming to Thailand in May, firstly to do a celta, then hopefully to teach here. She is unsure of which visa to obtain. I have mentioned she may be able to get a non imm B from the Thai Embassy in Hull.
Can anybody confirm if this is possible?
She is a little concerned about getting into visa trouble.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I will have to go to the immigration soon in Bangkok to extend my tourist visa. I now have a new passport, so was wondering if I take both passports to the immigration, will they simply transfer the current TV stamp to my new passport and add the extension, or is there another process I need to do first before I get the extension?
Thanks for any help
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Cheers for the answers guys.
Much appreciated