Alain Folly

Okay I really appreciate the feedback and different perspectives.  

I've already reduced my worry to near zero, in part b/c experts here have convinced me this could easily stay a one-time occurrence, but also b/c 10x more milage has seen no recurring event.  This happen with the odometer at < 20 km.  But people might benefit from a bit more detail:

First, I actually like the idle/stop feature and have known about it for years.  Watching my {uber, grab, bolt} drivers I noticed the behavior and ask if the vehicles were hybrid (because I noticed a similar thing on Priuses, the Toyota hybrid).  Nope, petrol only, so I looked it up and thought "good idea".  Fuel efficient.

The stalling event happened during a sudden and forceful stop, going down hill on a gravel surface.  As I pulled out of a parking lot onto a main road, the lane was clear until, at the last minute, it wasn't.  (A car passing on the left at high speed entered the leftmost lane where I was heading.)   Due to the forward and downward momentum against the gravel surface, the wheels locked and the car stalled with engine light.  Full restart necessary.

Now while the suddeness of the stop was at most a 1-sigma everyday stop, I suspect the combination of everything else produced a 2 or 3-sigma back "pressure".  I'm spitballing here but there's a torque equivalent of impact force, which would be very high under these conditions, right?   

I now consider it highly plausible the engine was designed to stall under such conditions.  (A bit like fighting with the emergency brake, I'd want the car to stall, I think.)

Anyway thanks all!  

Mods: please move to "cars for sale" 
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5 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

OP, unless I've missed something, this fault only occurred once right?

Yes, only once.  But in only a couple days of driving, so the frequency -- of an event that should never happen -- is disconcerting...

30 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

the drive with mechanic, did you go with him ?

Yes.  Literally 100 meters around the block, at low speed.

6 minutes ago, Fab5BKK said:

Are you sure that the Stop-Start Techno function is not enabled ?

 

"Auto Idle Stop system will stop and the indicator (Amber) will come on. The Auto Idle Stop system is turned on every time you start the engine, even if you turned it off the last time you drove the vehicle. The vehicle stops with the gear position in (D and the brake pedal depressed"

Yes I know about this, and this feature was not inhibited at the time.

Like I reported in another post, the engine light triggered ON, and the car needed full restart.

Thanks for all the input. 

This was a genuine stall.  Engine light on, accelerator did nothing.  It required full return-to-park, then foot-on-brake restart.  

I'm no expert on obd(2) systems but I strongly suspect this kind of engine light stall would register as specific trouble code.  But they refused or didn't understand.  

17 minutes ago, CharlieKo said:

Is it really a defect of you just needing to get used to driving a new car?

Of course one needs to get used to each new manual transmission vehicle.

A reasonable question, though is can a properly working automatic transmission car stall?

Let's google that together

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=automatic+transmission+stall

Answer: Seemingly not without some problem.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  (BTW I'd love to be wrong)

I'm pretty sure I have a problem with (insert Japanese carmaker).

After having test driven the "equivalent" car from the lot 10 days ago, I ordered a new one, which arrived in a few days.

Before paying, I requested to test drive my new car. "Cannot! New car." I paused, but naively figured it's under warranty, so what could wrong? Paid the ฿1 mil, and drove away.

Here's what could/did go wrong: minutes later the (automatic transmission) vehicle stalled in traffic. I immediately told salesperson, drove back to the dealership and requested diagnostics.

I repeatedly requested (audibly and visually w/ Google translate) that they connect the computer (obd, obd2 system) and provide to me a copy of the trouble codes. I just wanted proof so they acknowledge the problem.

Instead of that, the mechanic drove the vehicle 6 km/hr around the block and concluded, "everything ok".

Everything not okay, evidently. What should I do?  Seems too soon for lawyers, but still.  (Recent news suggests THIS carmaker only responds when the legal process is involved.)

Thoughts?

13 minutes ago, proton said:

why pay an agent for a legit extension that takes a few minutes and costs 1.900 baht?

Like I said, I know this comment well having read it many times. 

I'm jealous of you my brother!  My last extension was two trips for a combined door to door wall clock total of 14 hours.  6 cabs refused the SRT lak si to/from CW (they reportedly want that big mo chit money), and the officer accused me cheating on the PREVIOUS extension (I which I did not, so the weekend spent plotting my bank account sums against the oscillating 800/400 minimum.... Over 2 years)

Oh but I stray off topic, forgive me.

3 minutes ago, blackcab said:

 

Whereabouts would you like to get your extension? It's no good someone recommending an agent in Bangkok if you want an extension in Pattaya.

Let's say I'll be using Jomtien immigration office as home base. That's very possible, and a recommendation there would be very appreciated.  But my next renewal is 10 months away ..

At the heart of my question is the touchy business of bribes and fake bank balances (still perhaps legal because the IO has some ultimate authority, as I've read 100 times).

There is presumably a premium paid for that "workaround" service, SO I'm eager to pay for the convenience LESS that premium...

1 minute ago, blackcab said:

Whereabouts are you in Thailand?

Complication here because I really enjoy slow traveling mainly between Bkk an Chonburi (satthahip now)