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Its no secret you can get a business visa through an agent, even without having a "proper" company with thai employees etc. The price is around 90k to 100k baht. With yearly renewals (not sure about the cost). However, these shady arrangements have gotten much more difficult after the recent crackdown. Some YouTubers might still be on those visas though.

This is a very interesting topic. I have noticed many YouTubers that I have watched during the years that suddenly just dissappear, most probably because their luck ran out with long term stays or for economical reasons. With the DTV its much easier so now theres more channels than ever. But making it in the YouTube space in 2025 must be really tough, especially when most of the Thailand topics are covered already.

My guess concerning Mickey is that he has a company here with employees. It seems to be a bigger operation at least, with all the different products. And he genuinely seems to love Thailand so I am sure he would want to do everything by the book. 

On 6/28/2025 at 1:53 PM, Corry said:

Thank you very much! 😀 Do you know which border they cross?

Sorry I dont know. I recommend to ask them

On 6/30/2025 at 4:12 AM, zekelin said:

I found some companies who make border run to Laos from Pattaya.

 

One of them 9,5k: including Laos visa and one night hotel in Laos.
Another one 6,5k: go and come back in the same day (no hotel).

I see is a long way from Pattaya but I prefer to do it in one single day I think.

That sounds like a complete nightmare. Just doing a short run to cambodia is an ordeal already. Double that time and you will have the Savannakhet run. The visa run company i used previously now offer Savannakhet runs by air to Nakhon Phanom from Bangkok. It will cost alot more tho since you need to pay for your flights aswell, maybe 2-3k baht extra. Have a look here: https://thaivisaservice.com/

1 hour ago, Corry said:

Pls can you share with us how they did the border run with Myanmar?

Huh? just go to soi 94 in hua hin and theres a visa agent right there on the beginning of the soi, to the left side. Just book a spot and then go to the pickup point at the time they tell you to be there. After that you get in the van, ride to the border and get stamped in/out. Then back to Hua Hin. The process is done in around 12 hours. Alternatively you contact them through LINE or whatsapp or phone, i linked one company here in the thread before: 

MY RIDE Thailand Ltd.

A friend of mine did the Myanmar border run from Hua Hin. Its a pain in the ass too, but not as bad as going to Laos. It takes around 12 hours to complete, but at least it can be done in a day. Maybe a good option if living close by, or if going for a short stay in Hua Hin. There are companies at soi 94 that advertise the runs. 

I also found one company on Facebook that does the runs for 5 300 baht: https://www.facebook.com/groups/221530661758247/user/100083392478106/

To go all the way to Savannakhet in those vans with random strangers, and try to sleep in them during the night... nah man, nah. Im good. 

One thing to remember is that this is the low season. That means that the immigration officers have more time to look at your entry/exit history since there is less queue. Arriving during the low season might also raise questions of the legitimacy of your stay since most tourists arrive from October and onwards (especially if you have been coming and going to Thailand frequently).

Thanks for the reports in the thread. Thats a small price to pay for peace of mind.

2 hours ago, thaiasia said:

That's what I think too. So I guess it would be better to use the safe entry service next time if coming visa exempt again.

Hey OP, I would take the IOs comment as the first warning, and would not push it after this with a new exempt (especially flying in). I dont think a safe service is needed if you have several months in between your trips, but certainly another visa. The DTV is one of the best options right now for us long stayers / "you stay too long in Thailand" travelers. 

And to those who have commented that the IO has too much power to deny entry. The officer will most likely ask for a supervisor to come and check the situation. Last time the boss came up to the booth and checked my tourist visa, said something to the IO, and then I got stamped in. 

There is a bit of a difference between an ETA and a TM6. ETA is something that is needed to authorize travel, while TM6 is just mandatory "information reporting" for your trip. You can probably fly without filing a TM6 but pay a fine, just like with the TM30. Without an ETA you will not even be allowed to board the plane.

But it will be an absolute nightmare if both those systems are implemented. The amount of hoops to jump through would be so immense that the losses from tourism would be astronomical. I am sure most tourists will just look elsewhere if its too difficult to go to a country for a holiday.

Just my 2 cents, right now it is high season and the staff are probably very stressed. I would give them the benefit of the doubt, but yeah... I have also had my fair share of uneasy conversations at Immigration. I always feel tense and nervous interacting with them, and this mostly boils down to previous "interrogations" for staying "too long" in Thailand. Next trip I am aiming to arrive with a DTV to avoid all this. 

As the OP wrote, if there only were some clear rules. Maybe the new ETA will bring some clarity. In the video below the guy on the left says that the alarm bells will start ringing after 3 VE:s per year, and then you get blocked by the system. After that you have to apply through the e-visa portal and obtain a real visa, not exempt. I don't know what he bases this on, but it seems he knows a bit more than usual.

You can have a look here: 

15 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

Hello, I read your reply.

Thanks for your updated info.

So do they started  to ask the border hoppers to stay outside this kingdom for 1-2 days, before their visa-waiver re-entry(by land)  is allowed?

Even though I don't need to do any more  visa-run(after I got retirement Non-O), I felt the current situation very interesting.

Hope you can continue to enjoy your hassle-free stay here.

Have a good day.

Some borders require this now, but not all. My guess it will keep expanding though, probably to stop people doing visa runs by themselves to stay in Thailand. Best to use a visa service to avoid problems, even if it comes with a cost. 

You can try by yourself, but I would not recommend it. The fee you pay is to make sure that you are pre-cleared and not hassled by immigration - before you even arrive at the border. They also mark your TM6 card with the Visa agency service sticker, and usually have you wear a little sign on your clothes that identify you as part of the group. 

If you want to do it yourself it is of course possible, but you might have issues returning the same day. They could ask you to stay in Cambodia a few nights, or you might be questioned if you have a long history of visa exempts/tourist visas in your passport. In the absolute worst case you will not be let back in at that border, and then you have to try to make your way back through another one. Not a fun time. 

I usually go there around 8 AM to avoid waiting the whole day. If you arrive just before they open you should be out around 9.30. 

4 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

You may not have seen reports, I however have witnessed at least one person who was not given a 30 day extension, I am not certain that they were given a 7 day extension as I did not eavesdrop on the full conversation, they were denied a 30 day extension.

That this was unusual is true, that 30 day extensions are almost always granted is also true. That they are always given is not true.

Probably incomplete application... I have seen a guy sitting next to me at lak si immigration get sent out for not having a tm30. Was told to come back next day.

23 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

I used to use this agent, and their service is great, but the price of 3,700Bt?? What was it before the Chinese virus? Certainly a lot less than that.

Yeah but during covid you could only get 30 or 45 days. Now its 60 days visa exempt which is why it costs more.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Talk about rolling the dice.

Assume this lastest "last time warning" after previous same warning was at Thai airport since you mentioned Vietnam.

Getting refused entry would he hellish. 

Yes, both at airport (Suvarnabhumi)

A friend of mine got told yesterday that this was his last time entering visa exempt. He spent a week in Vietnam before arriving. The reason he stays in Thailand for longer periods of time is because he trains muay thai on a high level, something he told the IOs as well.

They wanted him to get a DTV for muay thai for next entry. The previous time he entered was also "the last time" according to the IO, so I don't know what the real last time is... but he probably shouldn't push it. Just a FYI for anyone in a similar situation.