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The form i signed was a TM35 ti had that language on it. I read closely because she was not at the desk for a long while and as i was confused as to what was happeneing i read it closely. It maybe nothing. I do not know the exact effect of it on my immigration status. I have identified the stamp and figuring things out, somewhat. Cheers

Okay, the saga continues. For those who care, from This is what my stamp is and when you go here https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/faq_en/#1616676971958-bee6a781-3aab and https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/90days-report/ Notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 Days Immigration Division1 | กองบังคับการตรวจคนเข้าเมือง 1 - Notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 Days Notification of Staying in the Kingdom over 90 Days (90 Days Report) According to The Immigration Act,B.E.2522,the foreigner who has received a temporary stay permit and stayed in the Kingdom of Thailand over 90 days must notify his/her residence to immigration officer every 90 days. How to Notification The foreigner makes the notification in person, or authorizes another person to make the notification (The notification must be made within 15 days before or after 7 days the period of 90 days expires) The foreigner makes the notification by registered mail (Thailand Post only and send the mail before the renewal date 15 days to Immigration Office in local area where the foreigner resides) The foreigner makes the notification via internet by terms and conditions of service. Check the website : www.immigration.go.th => Online Services Documents Required (Notification in person) Passport departure card (TM.6) Example Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (If the applicant has been notified before) Example Completely filled in the notification form (TM.47) and signed by the applicant (not another person) Example Notification by registered mail (Thailand Post only) Prepare the following documents Photocopy of passport pages with following pages – front page showing name / surname / Passport No., etc. – current visa – last entry stamp of immigration – last extension of visa Photocopy (front-back) of departure card TM.6 Example Previous notifications of staying over 90 days (If the applicant has been notified before and no travel outside the country). Use only original document Example Notification form TM.47, Completely filled in and signed by the applicant (not another person) Example Envelope with 10 Baht stamp affixed and return address of foreigner for the officer in charge to send back the lower part of form TM. 47 after having received the notification. The send back part must be kept for reference and for future notifications of staying over 90 days. The above mentioned documents (1-5) must be sent by registered mail before the renewal date 15 days to Immigration Office in local area where the foreigner resides. Must keep the evidence of sending the registered mail as evidence until the document is returned. ** Waiting time for document to be returned : Approximately 30 days Offices accepting notification The foreigners who reside in Bangkok, make the notification in person, or authorizes another person to make the notification at => 90 Days Report Section , 2nd Floor , Muang Thong Thani Temporary Service Center (Popular Rd., Pakkred district, Nonthaburi). (MAP) ***Postal Address *** 90 Days Report Section , Sub-division 2 , Immigration Division 1 , Chalermprakiat Government Complex (B Building) , 120 Moo 3 , Chaengwattana Rd., Soi 7, Toongsonghong, Laksi, Bangkok 10210 One Stop Center for Visa and Work Permits located at Chamchuri Square Building , Floor 18, Phayathai Rd. Phatumwan, Bangkok (Only the specific law). Services are provided only to foreigners who have already submitted an application for temporary stay in the kingdom of Thailand. (MAP) For other provinces, notify at Immigration Office in local area where the alien resides. Note The notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days is not the visa extension. If a foreigner staying in the kingdom over 90 days without notifying residence to immigration officer or notifying later than the set period, must notify in person and a fine of 2,000.- THB will be collected. If a foreigner who did not make the notification of staying over 90 days is arrested, he/her will be fined 5,000.- THB with an additional fine not exceeding 200.- THB for each day which passes until the law is complied with. If the foreigner leaves Thailand anytime during the 90-day period, then the day count will restart from upon the arrival date of his/her re-entry into Thailand. (every case) If the foreigner leaves the country and re-enters, the day count starts at 1st date of the latest re-entry in every case. Immigration DIvision 1 Government Complex Ratthaprasasana Phakdi Building (Building B , South Zone), 120 Moo 3, Chaeng Wattana Road, Thung Song Hong Subdistrict, Lak Si District, Bangkok 10210 google-site-verification=pvfokMcz7iJSG3NTpODi4UUTKAb9T-TqPt5ZlDUC-dI Information 0-2141-9889 , 081-412-9180 HOTLINE 1178 [email protected] 0-2143-8228 I will look into it but now i must eat.Peace

This was part of the reason for my concern and the post. Having to fly back in or my misinterprestation of her reasoning isnt a problem, it was why the specific form with the language on the form. I used the words expel and expulsion because thats what was written on the forms she had me sign. Have i just signed a form whereby i admitted to being forced to leave? Now your worrying me.It seemed over the top to get me to sign the forms when they could of just said sorry you cant come in. IS there anywhere you can query what they meant without having languageb issues? She was quite insistant that I could fly back in and get another visa.

Agreed.

But they(extensions) extend the date to which you have to go to a border and inform them of where you are. I though that is the whole point of the 60 day reporting? There is a 60 day limit to how long i can stay before doing this unless i extend. When i extend it puts that back effectively pushing the border reporting requirement date back which throws the date which when the visa ends back also by 30 days. This was my confusion. Someoene has ponted out that your final entry must happen before that date on the visa. Im thinking all 60 day periods must be finished by that date.Now i know.I have forgiven her. She may enter heaven once again.

I didnt have it at that point. It was upon re-entry to Thailand when they bought it up. I went through paying for the overstay and no mention of it, nothing. Otherwise i wouldnt of come back in obviously. Why the first lady didnt do it i dont know. The other chap has cleared up the issue, at least for me, and Poipet is still a haven for stroppy officers. That point stands.Cheers

"Your understanding is incorrect. You had a multiple entry visa with each entry of UP TO 60 days. As many entries as you liked BUT the last one must have been taken before 12 May. As already pointed out if you had made an entry on 11 May then you would have been granted 60 days ,which could have been extended by a further 30 days." This makes more sense and accounts for the extensions. She may be releaved of her sins, ill let her off. I am in error. Although i had overstay on my first entry meaning that i went over the 60 day limit to start the next period and nothing was mentioned. Also, I am confused as to why the lady who stamped and charged me for the overstay as i left Thailand did not bring this up. The lady who expelled me was not the lady who stamped and charged the overstay. The lady who done that let me through to Cambodia and when i re-entered Thailand was when this happened. Should the lady who charged the overstay when i left not indicate this? "Why you were not offered visa exempt I do not know, did you actually ask for visa exempt when visa entry was rightfully refused? Possible attitude/body language did not go down well." I dont think so. It was cordial. She kept asking me how long i will be staying in Thailand. I responded for the last 60 days with possibly an extension of 30 as allowed by my visa. She never offered a visa exempt and stated i had to fly back in and get a new visa. Do you think the stamp that they expelled me will be an issue?

How do extensions fit into this? Why do they offer extensions/what is the point of an extension if it doesnt extend your period of entry? I have 60 days per entry i extend by 30, but, that 30 eats into the days permitted in the tourist visa? Doesnt make sense to me. In that case it doesnt extend anything.Why didnt they bring it up the previous times at immigration including the border? Thanks

ITs not from Australia its from the UK. I posted the link to canberra as i am searching to understand better the details of evisas to confirm/reject my point on what the use by date means on an evisa and it came up.

@archis (sorry dont know how to tag new here) With extensions confirmed by immigration clearly stamped?

Obviously, whatever i think regarding whether it was fair or not is practically irrellevant at this point. How do you think immigration upon re-entry by air with a VoA will treat me? AS far as i can see i haven't been deported but refused entry and told to come back in via air and get a new visa? Thanks

Sorry missed important details. More details on extentions confirmed/stamped via immigration BKK. General point on Evisa. It was a triple entry with the same layout as every other tourist visa i have had from Thailand and other countries. That is, the expiry noted on the visa comes after the granted date. IT is stating the persiod before which you must inititate the visa not when the visa ends. How could immigration know this when extensions of the 60 day periods could be excercised? The visa is multiple entry, triple entry. 60 days per entry not including option to extend, giving 90 days. Extensions were granted both times thus far with immigrationin BKK viewing my tourist visa which is seperate, i.e. not printed in PP. This entry would be my final entry. Final 60 days with option to extend. As i see it: I landed nov = 1st entry Nov to Jan = 1st 60 days + extension 30 days from JAn to feb =1 period of stay I leave reenter in FEb = 2nd entry. Stamped as such. Feb to Apr = 2nd 60 days + extension 30 days Apr to May =2nd period of stay. I leave then re-enter(so i thought) in MAy for final 60 day period with option to extend. Not happening now. If confusin please ask. Thanks

Further clarification of my interpretation of my visa from the Canberra Thai immigration officeFAQ https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/f-a-q/ Q: What is the different between the visa validity and the period of stay? A:Visa validity is the period during which a visa can be used to enter Thailand. It is displayed on the visa sticker. In general, the validity of visa is 3 months, but in some cases, visas may be issued to be valid for 6 months or 1 year. The period of stay is granted by an immigrant officer upon arrival at the port of entry and in accordance with the type of visa. It is displayed on the arrival stamp. Travellers who wish to stay longer than such period may apply for extension of stay at the Immigration Offices in Thailand. Q:I understand from what is written on the visa sticker that the visa is valid for 3 months. Does it mean that I can stay in Thailand for 3 months with my tourist visa? A:No, that is not a correct understanding. The 3 months validity of the visa means that you must use it within 3 months from the date of issue. The period of stay will be determined by the type of your visa. Your visa sticker does not show the period of stay because it will be granted by an immigration officer upon your arrival to Thailand. In general, the period of stay for a tourist visa is not exceeding 60 days and for a non-immigrant visa is not exceeding 90 days from the arrival date. If you stay in Thailand more than the period which granted, you will be fined 500 Baht for each day of your overstay.

I should mention. I use the word expelled and expulsion because it was what is mentioned on the form i had to sign before they did it. I believe it was a TM 35 but searching doesnt provide any info on the form. <<<< Downloadable attachment containing personal information has been edited out >>>>

Earlier today I was expelled from Thailand at the Poipet border crossing because allegedly, my visa had ended on 12th May 2023. The reason the lady determined i was there illegally and the reason for expelling me is because of the line under the 6th line on my Triple entry E Tourist Visa stating "Date of grant" 12/11/22, which states "Visa must be used by" with the date next to it being 12th MAy 2023! Obviously the date to be used by line, following the date of grant line, is the date by which you must begin to use the visa by. Anyone with an IQ above 10 could deciipher this but not this particular official. I attmepted to explain this in English, that didnt work, then i translated it to Thai on my phone. After some respectful back and fourth she just snapped well you have overstay. So, that was that. I asked how do i get back to get my stuff which is in Bangkok? You must go back to Cambodia and fly into Thailand.Presumably, I get a visa on arrival? Although what will the expulsion stamp in my pp do to my chances of getting one of those now? Iknow Poipet is a haven for stroppy over excuberant officials but Is it worth trying another land boarder? Thanks