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Lmao tarnishing the country's reputation 🤣 as if Thailand isn't known to be a giant brothel worldwide, hookers and lady boys are the first thing that come to mind when you mention Thailand to people However these people are idiots making content like this in public, idk what they expected

I feel like i was almost too parent-y with them and I believe this is what the teachers didn’t like. The other preferred teacher was also better at discipline i was always chasing them to clean their face, making sure they didn’t injure themselves, sometimes the thai teacher didn’t even bother chasing after them. I was always paranoid they would get harmed and i could get blamed (thinking about it now I had a good reason for that) i also made them wash their hands, or even washed their face, gave them extra water, played with them etc, the kids were happy and wanted to hold ny hands and hug me…i was probably not smiley enough for the staff…

I always tried to make the kids laugh and happy and it worked as there were easy to please…the other guy was known bu the parents, spoke a little more thai and generally put on a scene everytime a parent came i was new so i was not familiar with people, so i just wai and smiled

You are right…it was my first job experience so perhaps this is why I feel like a failure i found rural thai to be unpleasant, the agency told me they liked foreigners…that itself was a red flag, how can you like a whole category of non defined people?

Yes…they really wanted an european woman and i am pale/light skinned idk how much they wanted me to so, they wanted me to take care of the kids too

Eh i don’t know the woman from the agency told me to avoid but everyone else including the preferred teacher did, he even picked the kids up which I didn’t i thought they didn’t like them getting too close to foreigners tbh, they want you there for status and that it

I believe i was hired just because l was white but for some reason they didn’t like me and the other guy…i could have made them lose face bc the kids paid attention to me or bexause i looked messy (i always wore makeup and nice clothes but sometimes i was sweaty)

I could not find a job and all the ads required native speakers…i settled for that

I always dressed well, make up and all but sometimes I looked sweaty due to the humidity and my skin was not always the best (not acne but some spots you could see under makeup) even in the second school I found a job in they cared about the color of the shirt than everything else, I decided to dip their english remains terrible

Eh you are right it seems more than what locals get but in reality for all this BS this is a crap salary

There is no point is leaving out parts, i wanted to write down the general context what’s the point of writing a short post where you can just assume based on little info?

Long post but I wanted to let it all out, I don't know if I was unlucky or if it is my fault. This experience affected me negatively mentally and emotionally, despite receiving calls and mails back for jobs here in my country (Southern Europe). I was told it was my fault for coming to Thailand unprepared (like culturally, financially) and for being arrogant for believing I could do stuff easily. It was not just a way to travel, but I was had the passion for teaching, I would have not spent time taking a CELTA otherwise...none of my coworkers had one. They didn't have a TEFL. I'm going to go point by point to avoid getting lost. Qualifications: I'm not a Native speakers and I have a Bachelor's Degree, the same year I got a CELTA, a 7.5 Ielts score and I already a C1 CAE certificate. Before this I had no experience besides a 100 Internship from High School where I helped with English and homework. My bachelor was related to the Tourism and Hospitality field but no one in the school had one related to children education, PGCE or English in general. Some even said they had fake degree or some were finishing university. They could not find qualified western (see white) teachers they wanted. Getting hired: Unfortunately, right after the CELTA I could not find a job. I used Ajarn, Teast, and other plaforms, sent mails, videos etc and CV but aside from a few interviews I got ghosted. It was already a bad sign itself, but I was motivated so I decided to give a chance to an agency (big mistake, I know). They found me a place in rural Thailand, for 32k baht a month, they were looking for an European woman (this itself was a red flag...) for a 5 month contact. It was kindergarten, but I was wary that it was a different culture, so I asked if it was a private school, what were the expectations, how it was like etc They told me it was public, the parents had no expectations because it was Europe and it was different. A low salary was ok for me because it was not Bangkok, but closer to Cambodia, lower cost of life etc The only thing that made me uncomfortable was to avoid touching the kids to avoid getting them attached, the parents didn't like it..the age range was 3-4 yrs old and I didn't know how much English they spoke. They told me Thai teachers took care of behavior, they didn't need someone who spoke Thai well (I speak it very little) etc It made uneasy because I'm female and I don't know how you can control behavior 100% of kids that age, it seemed off but I thought it was just cultural, I had already signed... The people: I met my foreign coworkers and they were all cooperative and friendly. They revealed quickly they found it all bull<deleted>, even this other coworker told us it was all an act and no teaching at all. We were given no training, just a watch day. Throughout the two weeks I was constantly paraded around and the teacher took pics of me with the kids, naively I thought the parents just wanted to make sure the kids were safe or that they liked me in general. The Thai teachers were not too friendly, not much small talk besides the main co teacher. One of the nannies was berating me all the time for giving the kids too much toothpaste, water, walking too fast...told me to go back to my class when I helped a random kid the first. Everytime we did something she didn't like, she reported it to the manager of foreigners who told us directly stuff (for example the director said I could wear pants when I asked, but then I was asked to change). Or everything else, not the right shoes, not standing around to greet and wai every parent (which rushed away most of the times, we had 24-26 kids in class). We had to take them to lunch, make them brush their teeth, give them milk, make sure they were safe etc Actual teaching: The foreign teachers were supposed to stay all day with their class with a three hour break in between for the kids' nap, the kids who didn't want to sleep had to stay still too. They had a general program and I admit not being the best teacher. I was having an hard time filling in the time and asked help to the coteacher a few times, the lesson planning was just adding repetitive info. I was given to training and not much time to adjust...I always made them do activities like coloring, diy stuff everyday. However, the kids were lovely and we bonded fast. During random play, they were happy to show me their toys, hugged me, wanted to play, chase them etc, I did eliciting with toys to make them speak English a little bit. There were two students who seemed to get more attached. One who had an hard time coping and, I made him laugh a few times and he always wanted to hold my hand, be close to me etc I didn't hush away, because I remember being a child myself, I have lots of empathy for kids and I wanted to be nice to them. The thai teachers were often too too nurturing and even other teachers found them harsh. I thought it was cultural so I didn't intervene. I would not go against the older teachers. One was the teacher's grandaughter who was very bright, curious and spoke English like a native speaker of her age. She asked me tons of questions, asked me to take her to places, one day her grandmother yelled at her and she came up to me saying her grandma didn't love her anymore. I didn't know what to say... During a story reading while nap time I made an example regarding fake flattery and since I received a lot of random flattery during the two weeks I stayed I thought they may have taken it personally. I may have accidentally made them lose face. The problem is that they were a lot of kids in class and I was always on alert and watched them, because the last thing I wanted was an angry parent attacking me for letting their kid getting hurt. The other teacher was blamed for dropping a kid twice and having to get stiches, he had to go to their place to apologize. He speaks Thai better though. He was not fired for this or for being late, it was his second semester. A few times I had to chase them if they run away (specially the special needs kid), put things in in their mouth, random running, climbing on things etc The teachers didn't even make them wash their hands after the toilet, just sprayed hand disinfectant. I made them do it to not get sick constantly, they were always sweaty due to humidity so something I washed their faces. The other teachers barely made an effort, if I had to be honest. They didn't change the kids before and after nap, so they slept with their uniform, made them watch brain-numbing stuff like cocomelon at least 2-3 hrs a day and gave them sugary stuff all day. They had toys but they didn't plan activities either, I just didn't want to do too much or go against them, if they wanted the kids to watch videos I let them. I felt it was not my place to criticize, I only made a comment with another teacher that cocomelon is like cocaine for kids, which one of the nannies may have overheard...it was a semi-joke, nothing personal, I always joked and had good rapport with coworkers, we were on friendly terms as we were in the same boat. I was diagnosed with PCOS and other health stuff so I have chronic fatigue and brain fog, I didn't have a diagnosis back then ( a year ago), I had two-three days of sick days and I made the mistake of staying home twice. I should not have done that, but I was exhausted. When I came home everyday, I just wanted sleep. I should have taken a nap during break but I didn't want to isolate myself from my coworkers. I was hanging out with one and people started gossiping we were dating but we were not. We liked each other but we met there actually. Random gossip: I was informed by other substitue teachers the school was not public but the parents paid 30k baht a year for the English program, how nothing extra was ever appreciated and how they talk badly in front of you in Thai, thinking you don't understand. I noticed this once but ignored it. Other foreign teachers said 5 yrs changed 6 teachers in one year, people came to stay one month and dipped...it was very messy. I made a mistake of telling the coworker I was close with that I didn't like the school system as it was brain numbing, very repetitive and little stimulation while we were out but I'm afraid some thai workers there may have reported what we said... Another teacher who left later thought it was all bull<deleted> and an act, the one I was close too criticized the school WHILE being in the school so I can't blame them...he was not too respectful of thai customs but I was. The other falang teacher (russian) also frequently spoke Thai because the kids could hardly be contained if you spoke English only. Also, as if it were not enough, the foreign teacher who lasted longer, said one eastern european saw a filipino teacher touching a kid (yes that way) in the bathroom but he denied and he was not fired. I kid you not. Idk if it is all BS but this is crazy. Me and the coworkers I was close to were fired by mail and call because the school didn't want us anymore, the teachers complained about my teaching style and him not being conservative (?). He was moved to another isolated elementary school and I was completely dropped like a hot potato...they also wasted his time and didn't provide non b visa. He had to go back to his country! I felt worthless and stupid and I still wonder what I did wrong. I was told I was seen as a threat and how it was 100% person by another teacher (who left before the semester finished), the kids really liked me (I am not saying this to be arrogant, it felt genuine) and I felt I was doing ok. When I asked an explanation they said my teaching style didn't fulfill expectations, how I could not fill in lessons and other stuff like not providing materials (this was not in the contract, they literally wanted me to buy stuff 5 days a week for over 20 kids apparently). I told the manager I tried to make it up by doing the childcare stuff and babysitting I was never supposed to until I got better at managing the class. The other russian teacher was coming up to us saying he was going to kill himself if he had to keep staying in that class, the thai teacher didn't treat him too well apparently. He probably stayed until the end of the semester, the parents already knew him etc We kinda used colorful speech as an hyperbole regularly between each other but I guess the thai staff doesn't like our sense of humor or they didn't know english fluently either. The manager claimed the parents pay money so whatever, it was my duty to do well. I was not aware it was a private program at all...The thai teacher was vague too, she did the same thing everyday, sang them a lullaby and made them pay or watch stuff but I didn't see something specific (like Montessori, let's say). I spoke them in English everyday, the thai teacher told me none of the kids could speak it so I had to speak to her granddaughter as she knew it better. The day before I got fired the manager said they liked me, wanted me to stay but also showed me the thai contract but didn't give it to me because 'I don't understand thai' ok... The non b visa thing was sketchy and some got fines for hiring north african teachers too. I still feel like an idiot for falling for this, it made me want to stop trying to teach in Thailand. I felt the locals just tolerated us but there was no rapport. I found another job but left because the cost of getting a visa, probation period was too risky.