s.sophon

maybe to get visa easier, maybe go to aranyaprathet of amphoe sakhaew and then enter poipet's visa, more easier?

just suggestion. if u can go to poipet, take a small bus to siem reap, then stay for one night, then go to phnom penh.

welcome to Preah Reachea Nachok Kampuchea

fun for people who want learn thai. make it more informal and funny with their friends.

yeah.

i speak that to my friends. they speak that to me. we use goo and meung a lot. and saadd is funny xD

สาดด

know what it means? it's slang. XD

johpa

so...before the thais came, there's no khmer empire, just only tai yai there in central thailand? that's what you're trying to say, in a summary?

Lots of words are from Khmer, because Thai sacked Angkor Wat and took many Khmer scholars.

The original Siamese is from Yunnan and they probably speak laos with some kham muang before Khmer influence.

There were probably several migrations of Tai people into present day Thailand who originated to the north. One of those groups migrated into the Central Plains and became the Siamese whose language evolved into Central Thai. I am not a historical linguist although, if memory serves me right, Marvin Brown of AUA fame did some early work on the various Tai languages spoken in modern Thailand and their asscoiated migrations of Tai folks. The earlier migrations would have included the Shan and thus their nickname the Tai Yai, or greater Tai, as they did not remain dominant for long. And as a footnote, in general, the original language is usually preserved more towards the farthest from the point of origin, so Central Thai may be closer to what the original migrants spoke than Lao or Kham Muang.

One of the largest area of Khmer is upon the Royal language, ratchasaap, but some have recently sugggested that this is a relatively modern creation. The other common words of Khmer origin are, as an earlier poster noted, those with the infix /am/ as in tamruat.

I see that the current thinking towards the larger parent language group for Tai languages has been swinging back to a Tai-Kadai association, meaning that the Tai languages are more genetically related, rather distantly I should add, to Indonesian, with the ancient split occuring on Taiwan where one group became island and coastal loving seafarers and the other moving orginally westwards to the mainland and becoming rice farmers. But the debate seems to change direction every generation or so and as my college Thai professor use to say, if you go back far enough you can make just about any historical linguistic claim you want.

where were the thais in 10 century?

and who were these people in central thai before the thai immigration? these were part of khmer empire so therefore, those people were originally khmer before the thais came to set sukhothai, then ayuthaya.

and can the immigration kill all those original people? no, the thais intermarriage with them for a long time, and that's how the thai is today.

There is no Tai Yai in Central Thailand during Khmer Empire reign

And the Shan are in Eastern Burma while Burma is Mon

Khob jai lai lai der

i hope you'll learn more from your friend about this.

Lots of words are from Khmer, because Thai sacked Angkor Wat and took many Khmer scholars.

The original Siamese is from Yunnan and they probably speak laos with some kham muang before Khmer influence.

Age - Ayoo

Institution - Salaa

etc, many others

Know where I can find any Thai institutions where I can learn Thai, be it central or issan in Sydney?

I live in Hornsby and I dont want an expensive institution, I want a friendly cheap one that is open anytime but I'll take whatever.

I want to speak Issan properly or Thai properly because sometimes I speak little corrupted Issan with Khmer words in it.

Oh, I also want to make friends too.

Buddha is just a word meaning "a person who is enlightened".

Not a god or anything.

It is nearly the year 2550 with only 18 days to go.

Anyway, I must introduce myself.

I am living in Sydney, New South Wales province in Australia.

S.Sophon stands for Serei Sophon. This is an alternative formal name of Si Sophon which the Thai called it Sri Sophon.

However I must remind that this is originally Khmer district of formerly Battambang province/now Banteay Meanchey province, never rightfully Thai, though the Thai had it under their control for a hundred years or so, changing Srei Sophon into Sri Sophorn, along with Battambang province and Siem Reap province.

This is my hometown.

Sisophon district as it is most commonly known, is not far away from Poipet district in the same province of Banteay Meanchey.

Once we cross Poipet, we are officially in Thailand, in the district of Aranyaprathet of Changwat Sakhaew.

A lot of Khmer people travel there to do business and go back home at night. They need a permit paper to do this.

My understanding of Thai are still learning. I have friend from Udon Thani, which they speak Thai with Lao accent. It is just a Thai accent. not a seperate language. Laotian language is actually an old version of Thai language, when the Thai first came to establish their kingdom and there was no Lao country, but Siam. But they split up due to some family fighting, and thus Lao was born. The Thai language changed over time from heavy influence of Khmer when they took many skilled people from Angkor Wat while sacking it.

But the Laotian language is almost original of the Siamese but the Lao race is not original. The Lao and the Thai are the same people.

As for the provinces of Surin, Buriram, Sisakhaet, Sakhaev, they do speak Khmer but it is corrupted Khmer.

They cannot read or write Khmer thus their way of speaking Khmer is corrupted with Thai words in it. But northeastern Cambodia, such as people from Battambang province, Siem Reap province, can understand them better than Phnom Penh people.

So it is a Thai accent too. More like speaking Thai with Khmer words in it somewhere.

I think it depends on the Thai person you are talking to. Sometime he/she comes from Issarn or Chiang Mai where R are substitute for L or H.

In English, when we write, we have spaces in sentences.

In Thai, when we write, we don't have spaces in sentences.

There are some exceptions, example is putting a Person name.

Buk Ham Lae.

issan word.

thai man dont fight fair. it's their turf.

people in their own country dont fight fair either.

Often on this board bad farangs and Brits have become synonymous, are we really that bad?? Have all the people that love to go on about how "pathetic, ugly and violent" we all are, have they actually been on the recieving end of this seemingly commonplace behaviour, or is it that you just read something somewhere, see someone drunk and assume he's gonna beat you up?? I would really love to know.

Seriously, who has had a bad experience with us Brits??

Hmmm. I like Britain people. I met some nice Britain people. They aren't that bad. Bad farangs and Brits become synonymous, I think that's not true. It's like saying Bad Katoy and Thai become synonymous.