dwwin

Calling the parents stupid justifies the army using live bullets against children and women?

Calling people stupid is probably a factor in the equation that got us to this point in the first place.

You got a point here. Calling them stupid is probably an understatement.

I'd call people that bring kids to a protest criminally insane.

And there was I thinking about going back to Thailand, I guess I give this a miss

You don't look strong when you kill your own people just to stay in power. 

The same could be said about Thaksin.

They had it coming all along, or perhaps that was the idea from the beginning

I doubt that KP wants to submit this video as evidence. No date nor time stamp, published as pure propaganda and with intend to smear the couple.

Its blurred, but you can see the date and time along the bottom of the video

Yes, I can see it. It looks more like a file name '/22.05' is all I can read. Did this happen on the 22 May?

I doubt that KP wants to submit this video as evidence. No date nor time stamp, published as pure propaganda and with intend to smear the couple.

There is little doubt that she is stealing a wallet, and we all may have egg on our faces.

However, the question is, is it the couple in question?

I'm sure some of our more technical brethren can blow up the video and pics of the couple to establish this fact, one way or another.

If you go back and take a look at the photograph of the couple on page 1 post #1 you can see clearly that this is the couple in the video.

Well, I can't see anything clear here, you sure you can? Doesn't she look quite a bit younger?

linux

I run Linux myself but it is by no means virus or hacker proof.

Hey folks I was wondering what your opinion was for a good antivirus, spyware, firewall combination - free or paid.

AVG Pro w/o the FW

Comodo firewall, free, difficult to configure correctly, Sunbelt (former Kerio) free! (not worth the money any more) -> works w/o configuration.

CCleaner or AWC is a must for windows

Disable 'system restore'<-important, get an independent tool (Erunt) that enables you to scan your back ups.

Decent browser, FF3 or Opera, decent email client, look here Top 12 free email clients

^ I'm afraid that will keep going like this for the next few days.

It won't be long for somebody to call urgent meetings and for even more urgent measures. Fortunately, I never watch TV, would only raise my blood pressure.

...and the like tsunami, a precursory warning that something was amiss....

I must admit that I had to look at the date. I thought it was some old news that somehow had sneaked into my inbox. But, sadly not.

It has happened so many times and there has been talk about a warning system every time. As always, just talk. Now that there are 20+ dead again we will talk again.

I think it will remain this one for a while.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/bioxx/CB750.jpg

Well I would suspect that as I have been here 20 years and together with the business that my wife and our family operate , I suspect that we have probably contributed more to the Thai revenue then you ever will many times over. That aside you have made some very strong allegations that some or part of the construction, you do not define which, had been built by a bunch of corrupt crooks in your own words. What evidence do you have to support this rather serious statement ? Or is it perhaps, like many, problems associated with the new airports construction, has been blown out of all proportion to purposely and unneccesarily defame the Thai airport operators and those construction companies whom were involved ? I suspect that you like a few others are just jumping on the "lets knock Thailand" bandwagon and most of your problems are associated with your dreams - possibly wet ones judging by your intentional flaming.

It's either that you're too lazy to read or simply haven't got a clue about engineering but still feel the urge to talk. If you can be bothered reading the following you might even understand part of it.

BTW I pay tax here, I don't work here and that's been like this for the last 20 years. So your 'probably' is very 'unprobably'.

If you have read and understood it than you'll realise that I've asked the question about the water that comes to the surface before.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/03/17...es_30029540.php

Engineers to test success of method over 35-sq-metre area before expanding spill do not cut

In front of TV cameras and amid much fanfare, a backhoe yesterday dug a trench near one of the damaged taxiways at Suvarnabhumi Airport to kick off the much-awaited repair of the damaged tarmac.

After five months of internal and external investigations, international headlines, and resignations of top-level executives, Airports of Thailand (AOT) finally demonstrated remedial action in an attempt to halt the spread of fissures that have resulted in the closing of a section of the airfield.

"It's critical that we discover how to extract this water before the rainy season returns," said AOT senior engineer Surajit Surapolchai. "There are 46 areas in the airfield with water blockage in the sand underneath that caused damage to the pavement surface."

However, the operation yesterday was just an experiment on a small area to test the draining technique, he said. A four-inch-wide steel pipe, 10 metres long, was inserted underneath taxiway T-11 to provide an outlet for the water trapped in the sand.

If engineers observe a decline in the water level by next week, the 35-square-metre test area will be expanded with more pipes to drain water from 150 to 200 more square metres.

But AOT officials were non-committal as to when it was likely to happen and if the process might be extended to the 100,000 square metres damaged to date.

"We have to wait for the result of today's test to determine the long-term treatment," Surajit said.

Ultimately, it is assumed that all three million square metres of Suvarnabhumi will likely need to be drained before ruts and cracks consume the entire airfield, he said.

"The cracks continue to spread. We have no way of knowing the extent of the damage yet but, all the taxiways, taxi lanes and aprons could be affected," said another airport engineer, who asked not to be named.

The excess water is caused by the failure of the airfield's drainage system to move water away from the paved surfaces, and/or a lack of drains under the paved surfaces.

Neither AOT officials nor the international consortia of airport designers and contractors responsible for the airfield's design and construction have been willing to comment on how such an oversight could have happened.

AOT has cited the unfulfilled task of establishing accountability as contributing to their slow response toward repairs.

Surajit said AOT's worry was that all warranty and liability claims could be declared invalid by the contractors should AOT intervene prior to formally pinning responsibility for the problems.

"We have to make sure airport designer groups agree with our drainage measure to avoid future legal disputes about who caused the problem," he said.

Norway-based Norconsult, which designed the subsurface of the airfield, visited Suvarnabhumi two weeks ago and gave the nod to AOT's proposed drainage plan.

The lack of action has not sat well with the Engineering Institute of Thailand (EIT), which first alerted AOT to the need to begin draining water last November.

"If a coma patient keeps bleeding, you don't go looking for what caused it before stopping the bleeding," said Karun Chandrarangsu, EIT president.

Another EIT engineer is troubled that despite AOT's concern to move quickly before the coming rainy season, it is highly unlikely that any major corrective action will be taken before the rains arrive.

Nantiya Tangwisutijit

The Nation

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Cessnock

The longer you stay on TV the 'gladder' you will get. Enjoy your holiday.

No but when you are mature enough to understand and not believe in comic story's than I look forward to receiving your pictures, but I won't hold my breath.

As soon as you are mature enough to stop believing in Santa Claus and the the Easter Bunny you might realise that the cracks in the airport building, the leaking roof and the falling apart doors are all on purpose. You might also find the time to read the original engineering report again. There you will see that they have temporary turned off gravity out there or are pumping the water that comes to the surface to...where actually? The Gulf, where it promptly comes back?

The fact remains that a bunch of corrupt crooks have built a piece of c*** using my money cos I pay tax here, if you don't, keep sleeping.

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I have spent almost all my life as an airline pilot flying the jumbo jets and can assure you that I know nothing about runway construction techniques. Unless a runway is obviously unsafe for some reason, most of us pilots depend on our companies and the authorities to alert us to the problems and the safety of the runway construction. Keep the info coming on runway construction as I am still learning everyday.

And there wouldn't be too many pilots willing to start the topic as there are others already waiting in line. That's an assumption but sounds reasonable to me.

Now a bit more about PVD. It's used worldwide and the description of "Thai engineers buried" couldn't be any further off the real process. It's been used along the Bkk-Chonburi motorway too. However with questionable results.

It's a machine commonly called 'needler' cos that's the way it looks. A crawler with a huge needle guided by a pipe column on it. The process is time consuming a bit expensive cos of the drainage hose, which is a bit pricey and the pockets that have to be fit on the hose each time, that gets simply pushed into the ground by this needle. Needle pulls out, hose gets cut off above the ground.

In countries with dry and hot summers those hoses are simply left open and the sun does the rest. LOS isn't one of those countries. That the ground subsides is true too cos of it's own weight and the water taken out it compacts itself.

Now just don't tell me that it is hot and dry for a longer period of time, like the 11 month stated, in LOS.

Actually my only question would be what they do with the water that comes out of those hoses. If they don't drain it away it will go in circles. The sun doesn't do it here. It's early afternoon and the humidity here is 65%. Nothing much evaporates in this sort of clime.

But yes .. DO BOOK in Advance for big holiday times!

Very good advice. You will be surprised how much money the thais have. There's always a lot of travelling going on around the holidays.

Remember some years back I couldn't get a flight to Japan short before Songkran, even so the company insisted on me flying business or first class only (cos if the customer looks at your luggage they can see it and the comp. didn't want to look poor).

Thong Lor police my lovely neighbours.

Haven't had a problem with them, just that they are difficult to get into action if there is a real problem but nothing to 'gain' for them.

7 or 8 years ago I went for a meal about 3pm somewhere close to Rajah Hotel Suk Soi 4... we all know the area. I ate and drank water. Close to 6 pm I back in my hotel room I felt incredibly sleepy. I had arrange to meet a good friend for a meal at 7pm(farang). When that friend arrived I could do nothing. My friend stayed overnight to monitor my condition. I woke in the morning fine.... Nothing like this had happened to me before or has happened since. I was drugged, absolutely no questions about it, but due my quite significant size 115kg, the drug was slow acting and I actually fought the sensation until 9pm at which time I slept. To this day, I do not know if it was in the food, on a glass or skin applied.

Change friends or better discuss it with them. The next time something like this happens your friends should get you to a hospital immediately. There is no point in monitoring you, once you've stopped breathing it might be very well too late. Your 115 kgs must indeed have helped you as you were certainly supposed to collapse on the street with a helpful Thai near you, assisting you and relieving you of your wallet. They still don't get it right even after years of practise.

That was one of my first fall outs with a doctor here (some 20 years ago). I had a (work related) reoccurring inflammation in the left shoulder, so I knew the symptoms and the remedy. The mix he wanted to administer was al right but the dosage wasn't. When I told him this he got a bit angry and asked if I was a doctor. I told him that I'm just a paramedics and calmly continued to explain the difference between a 50kgs Thai and a 96 kgs (me) westerner and the fact that our metabolism is much slower than that of an Asian person.

Sorry for hijacking the thread. About the above story, I only know of contact poison that temporary paralyse or, not so temporary, kill the victim. They usually come with an acid that penetrates the skin and carries the poison along. Real high-tech does this without causing a burning sensation. Just can't imagine how they applied it w/o wearing gloves.

I don't mean to insult anybody here but could it be that the lady was high on something on a daily basis and everybody knew about it? Then those crooks took advantage of her state of mind.

So, because you "Havent gotten a ticket yet." is proof absolute that it's legal.

Yes, it is legal and it really is written in the highway code and I really can read Thai.

...(footpaths) and give pedestrians the right of way.

Absolutely. You have your right of way as long as your up to a fight against 220 kg of bike plus my 90 kg of rider.

I am a bit curious how one of these girls, who were both facing forward sitting in beach chairs, was shot in the back.

My condolences to their families.

I really do hope Khunying Pornthip gets her hands on these girls instead of the police trying it them self.

Assumption 1: The girls were killed there.

After comparing all the pics available the girl with the bullet hole in the back must have been sitting upright. Killer doesn't know where left and right or the head is, so shots her into the right shoulder blade from the hip. The exit wound is almost horizontal near or at the breastbone. Very small exit hole too would mean powerful gun (Glock?). No blood on glass or bottle.

He then walks around and shots the other girl into the abdomen.

Sorry, but very strange indeed. A Mafia or contract killer would have shot the first into the back of the head and the second one at least into the left part of the chest. That is if he'd taken the time to walk around and not just shot the other into the head too from where he was standing.

But I'm afraid they will serve us the disgruntled chair keeper who can't afford a .22.

Assumption 2: They weren't killed there and the guard of the hotel is involved.

I was then reminded of Eleanor Roosevelt's famous line,

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."

That's not anybody's famous line but a prayer.

I am usually departing from the E-area. Just before going through security you will find a coffee-shop/bar with a huge smoking room to you left.

Now that's what I call advice.

By security do you mean the immigration? The smoking rooms behind there are bloody well hidden.

Have any of you been in that kind of situation before?

Because, if you havn't, I can assure you it's not nice. The ink off the fingerprint stuff lasts forever, the people come in with cameras and "flash around". It's not very nice - and that's as big an understatement as I can make.

Sounds like you have. Care to elaborate? No details necessary.