bokeh

On 8/16/2023 at 10:13 AM, bokeh said:

I submitted mine Monday last week, Aug 7.  The deadline is tomorrow, Aug 17.  It is still "Pending".  The pop up about the 90-day procedures, etc. on the main immigration site says there will be a response within 3 working days.  Ha!

Now I have to decide whether to try canceling and resubmitting, or just wait, and plan on a trek out to CW next week before the 7 days grace period is up.  Sheesh!

Holy Moly!  My submission from Aug 7 has just been "approved'- the timestamp on the immigration website was 2023-08-22 07:21:18 (UTC +7), less than 2 hours ago.  I had given up and made an appointment to do it at CW this afternoon- 14:25, to be exact.  I just left the original submission as is- no cancel and resubmit- and somebody finally got around to dealing with it.  

Now I can cancel that appointment.  Whew!  

16 days from hitting the submit button on the website to receiving "approval".  (Well, maybe 15.)  Tomorrow is the last day of the "grace period" for doing the report in person.

Now, what's going to happen NEXT time, which is set as Nov. 5?  Aiyaa!  No more optimism from me, just fingers crossed.

Good luck, everyone!

Following the email link to the booking, it seems there is no way, certainly no link, to cancel a booking, only "reschedule" which is making a NEW booking.  So, I guess I will just let it go.  Oh, well...

I submitted mine Monday last week, Aug 7.  The deadline is tomorrow, Aug 17.  It is still "Pending".  The pop up about the 90-day procedures, etc. on the main immigration site says there will be a response within 3 working days.  Ha!

Now I have to decide whether to try canceling and resubmitting, or just wait, and plan on a trek out to CW next week before the 7 days grace period is up.  Sheesh!

Now it's my turn, I guess.  My 90-day report, the third in a row in the new system, has been rejected.  I'm not surprised as I did my retirement extension in early May with a new passport, and I guess the database has, as in the past, not been updated.  I seem to remember one member in another thread saying that he just kept on submitting until perhaps somebody took notice and checked the database, and finally got approval.  I've just sent off a second submission to see what happens.

Other than arranging for an in-person submission at CW, does anybody have any ideas, suggestions, or experiences that might be worthwhile considering?  The report due date is July 3, so I have just shy of 2 weeks to try the system before giving up and going out to CW.  Sigh!  

I have a similar concern.  For vets, mainly in BKK and vicinity, but also in Thailand, in general, is it usual to present the client with a proper itemized bill, or just a lump sum for treatment? 

The vet I use seems to treat the animals very well, which is the main reason I have been tolerant of his billing method (no itemization), but I feel that things have been spiraling out of control in the last 2-3 years but mainly this year.  The tension between the vet and me has risen quite a bit this year, but especially in the last 3-4 months.  

Would it be reasonable for me to start demanding an itemized bill?  That's why I would like to know others' experiences with vets here.

Just to add my rant to the topic- I have just tried to do my 90-day report online, which I have managed to do successfully several times in recent years, and can not...again, the 2nd time since my extension back in May.  I tried the app first and it showed clearly (in the error message which shows my passport #, visa expiration date for May THIS year, not next year as is correct, and states that I am on 136 days overstay ) that the database for CW has STILL not been updated 5 months after the fact, and 3 months after the previous report done in-person by my agent.  (I'm in no mood to trek out to MTT or CW or wherever it is they are doing this these days, so I pay for the convenience.)  Grrr...

So, my agent will pick up my passport on Thursday.  Thailand 0.4 wins again.

Sigh!

28 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There is not rule that requires a extension to be canceled 15 days before it ends. That may be what the university wants to do.

They would have to apply for the 60 day covid 19 extension of the day their current extension expirees.

The covid 19 extension can be applied for at any time before November 26th.

Edit: If they could cancel their current extension now and apply for a 60 day covid extension they could apply for another one prior to November 26th.

 

I just KNEW ubonjoe would know exactly the info we needed!  Thank you maak-maaak, naa.

But I didn't realize a subsequent covid extension could be applied for well in advance of a current covid extention expiry.  It sounds like that would work wonderfully.  Is there a specific number of days in advance that a new covid extension can be applied for, ubonjoe? 

A friend of mine from an ASEAN country who has recently graduated from university here wants to extend his stay for a while using the Covid19 extension- the actual graduation ceremony will be sometime around mid-December.  The process for this is not the problem- friends of his have recently done exactly the same.  My question is of the timing of the cancellation and then covid extension.  The university office is saying they have to cancel the student visa extension 15 days before the actual expiry date, and that's what his friends have done.  I wonder if that is a special rule for student visas, or it's just maybe the way the university office has always operated.  The university is in Rangsit so this is for the Pathumthani Imm office.  When I switched from a Non-Imm B (work) extension to a Retirement extension (at CW) I did it only 2 or 3 days before the expiry date, and the whole process was done on the same day. 

The idea is that my friend wants to stay as late into December as possible, just in case they finally stop giving out covid extensions after Nov 26.  The covid extension at Pathumthani Imm is dated from the date the student visa is canceled, not from the "admitted until" date.  Is there any reason to assume he can not do the cancellation-extension process within, say, 4-5 days ahead of the expiry date for his student visa (which is in late October).  Or, is the only way to be sure to go to the imm office and ask in the next few days?  

Can anyone shed any light on this? 

Will wonders never cease?  My report was due May 3, with the 2 previous reports done online AOK.  The report before that was done in person in August toward the end of the reporting amnesty, and before that I had always exited the country within the 90 days so no need for reports except the odd time when I couldn't travel (and those were done in person).

So, I decided to go ahead today and give it a try.  I'm in Bangkok, so I deal with Chaeng Watthana.  Everything went ultra smoothly.  I had kept all the detailed info from my 2 previous online reports and, essentially, just did a copy and paste from that.  I double checked, triple checked obsessively before hitting the submit button, got my Pending notice and went to have lunch.  I checked my email after lunch and the Approval email was there!

I'm still in shock!  The previous times it took about 24 hours to get the Approval email.  Today it took all of half an hour.  Submission time was 11:32 and the approval email timestamp is 12:06.

So, now I'm good until July 23.  Woo-hoo!

And, for those who want to know, I use Chrome for Mac v.90.0.4430.85 on my MacBook. 

 I have not yet used, or even registered to use, the app, although I have downloaded it for use sometime in the near future.

I sooo hope this portends well for the future.

I got the very same notice just a day or two ago.  I entered my local Bangkok address in the Residential section, and it automatically filled it in for the other two sections: Nationality address and Employment address (and I am retired, so not employed, so...?).  The notice demanded the address as on the ID, which is my passport (US) and which does not list any address (and I no longer have one, anyway.  I'd have to "borrow" a friend's address or use an old family address).  I've been using Rabbit Line Pay quite a lot for several months now and it is linked to my local credit card, which, of course uses my local Bangkok address, which is the only "real" address I have now. 

Aiyaa!  So, now I guess we just wait to see what surprises are in store for us.

I can add a more recent confirmation- today, June 18, 2015- that the 90 day report can be done at Major Hollywood Suksawat. I did mine there this afternoon.

There was just one annoying hitch, though. The person at the window rejected my address! He said I had not written it fully. This is the first time in my nearly 30 years here that anybody has said anything about the way I write my address for anything official- visa extensions, re-entries, 90 Day at Chaeng Wattana, you name it. I live in central Bangkok in a condo. The form has the usual blanks for tambol, amphur, etc. that I have never heard being used for city addresses in Bangkok. I just write the number with slash, the condo name, the soi, the district and Bangkok in a line, ignoring those blanks, the same way I write my address for everything here. Never been questioned over it- never, except for confirmation of the exact number of the condo unit- the "room"- which is the number to the right of the slash. But only to confirm, not to dispute.

This guy (young kid- didn't look like a regular official) handed it back- wouldn't accept it for processing. I didn't list the tambol or the amphur in the correct blanks. So, I got hot under the collar but didn't overdo it (my point of view) and then remembered that I had the number of the condo manager in my phone so I called and we managed to figure out what the city equivalents were and what I should write where and I scribbled those on the form and took it back.

At that time there was a lady sitting next to him, clearly a full official in the brown uniform, and they processed the 90 Day form together and printed out the receipt (the printer was on the lady's side) without further delay. And then I scooted.

Mostly, I make trips out of the country from time to time so I rarely have need of doing the 90 day report; I think I will put more effort in doing that from now on. At least it's more fun that way. Or maybe the online route- after things get more settled and secure in the system.

So, the question is: is this some new directive from on high, or can it be put down to just that one person's ngee-ngaoness? Either way, I now have those address elements written down and in my iPhone should I be similarly hassled in future.

BTW, this whole process/episode took about 15 minutes. It was almost deserted at the immigration office this afternoon- only 1 other person doing the 90 day report for the general group of foreign nationals, and rather few for the migrant worker group, too.

Actually, the first to notice may be the airline check-in personnel. Once, I was with someone checking in for an international flight on Korean Air in CM. His 90 day report was due that day and the flight didn't leave until 11:50 pm. There were some raised eyebrows and intimidation from the airline employee -- he sailed thru Immigration.

The poor guy had dementia and was traveling in a wheelchair, so I think the airline was looking for any excuse to refuse to board him.

Most people take the report slip out of their passport before traveling since it is not longer needed which is a good way to avoid problems like this.

Departure immigration never checks for them.

Umm...never say never! :-)

I was at the airport a year or so ago and past the 90-day period from my last entry stamp but I had dutifully done my 90-day report, only it was not stapled in the passport as they don't do that anymore, at least at CW. The departure immigration guy questioned that- he noticed the entry stamp and asked something like "how long have you been here?" or "when did you last enter the country?"- I can't remember exactly, but it was that kind of indirect probing for information. I knew what he meant and pulled the 90-day receipt out of the passport case I was holding in my hand, upon seeing which (but not taking the time to inspect it) he proceeded to stamp me out and I went merrily on my way to the gate.

It's a lottery- ya neva know.

I would like to get a yellow tabien bahn for the condo unit I own in central Bangkok and I'm going nuts trying to figure out the requirements for my situation, which seems to be a bit different from the majority of posters. I'm hopelessly confused.

I am single, on a retirement extension (after working here for quite a few years, so no more work permit), and I own the unit in a relatively old condo in the center of town. I do not have a blue book for this unit; I had never thought about it until relatively recently and nothing was ever mentioned when I bought the property, so I assume no blue book was ever made for the unit as the Thai owners did not use it as their residence- they rented it out.

I asked the condo management to check with the khet office to see what I needed to do to get the yellow book and the answer they came back with gave me a headache- copies of this and that, certified translations of all kinds of documents certified by multiple agencies, and the name must match EXACTLY, and on and on. I really couldn't follow all the details. They were more than a bit taken aback by all the red tape, too.

So, am I correct in assuming that I need to get/establish a blue book for the condo unit FIRST, before I can get the yellow book? I am assuming that the blue book requirements are where the worst of the red tape comes in, as getting the yellow book seems to be relatively painless, based on what I have read on this forum.

Would anybody have any suggestions or recommendations of an agent who could handle all the red tape for me? I read that it is the property developer who usually does this but any property developer involvement with this place was back in the 80's, so I think that's out.

I guess a PM to me is the proper way to make a specific recommendation of agent/law firm/etc., and would be much appreciated.

Otherwise, information concerning the bureaucratic requirements, such as translation of passport (what has to be translated? who can officially do it? what certification stamps are needed? what government agencies need to be involved? etc.), and my name on the chanote (who can certify that it is the EXACT transliteration of the name in my passport, or whatever? etc.), do I really need my birth certificate? (as mentioned in one post)- I've never even seen my own birth certificate!, and on and on could be posted here for all.

Is there anybody who has been through all this for a condo unit and survived to tell the tale?

Thank you for the replies!

I found out about the shop on Thonglor shortly after I made the post- they also have a branch in Paragon, which is closer to me but I haven't yet been there to investigate. Their website doesn't mention anything about wheel replacement but I intend to get over there and ask. With a bit of luck, maybe... If they can do wheel replacement, I'll post the info here for whoever else might find it useful.

And I've checked that Skate Pro Plus website and it looks promising. Thanks for the link! I suspect that DIY is the route I will have to go. Now to inspect the bags, take measurements and whatnot and see what I can do.

Does anyone have any leads on a place in BKK that can replace the wheels on luggage? I have several bags where the wheels are just disintegrating but the bags, otherwise, are in good condition. Some are Victorinox but their regional repair center, last time I checked, is in Singapore- a bit inconvenient. Others are different brands, but it's only the wheels that are the problem.

They're all long past any warranty period so it doesn't matter who does the repair- I'd just like to get a few more years' use out of them, if at all possible.

One Thai shop lady suggested looking around on Sipraya Rd., toward the river end of town, but nothing more specific than that. So far I haven't had the time to explore the area, tho.

I've always used Doggiedoo (http://www.doggiedoo.net) for my 2 Poms and all has been fine. Their longest stay so far has been 10 days. There are 2 locations- Soi Yenakart and Rangsit. They also have a Facebook page if you care to visit it.

You don't have to cancel your visa/extension of stay.

If you apply for extension based on retirement your current visa/extension automatically is cancelled.

I had everything ready for the extension based on retirement, the non-imm B with work permit expiring May 31, and the officer lady looked through my papers and said that I had to go to section N (for government, universities, etc.) with a letter from the employer (a university) and have the visa cancelled, and then, and only then come back to section L (marriage, retirement, etc) and apply for extension based on retirement. That's what she said and she wouldn't process my application.

Thanks lopburi3! Actually, the reason for this is that I was unable to extend my current non-imm B for retirement purposes as my employer failed to produce the required letter cancelling the visa- my contract and visa both end on the 31st. (I posted on Thursday on the embassy income verification letter thread hinting at this snafu.) I had thought that since there was no new contract, that the visa could just be extended for a different reason, but, alas!, not so. And I suspect that the people in charge of these things at my place of work didn't think anything at all.

A rush order has been placed for that crucial letter and is supposed to be ready before noon on Monday (tomorrow) and I will rush to CW for the afternoon work period. But my confidence in the office people getting things right is so very low now, I thought it prudent to be prepared just in case worse should come to worse. I gather I would have to leave the country by midnight Tues, the 31st, if it came to that.

I've searched the forum and most all the relevant posts that I've found refer to getting a non-imm O regionally for marriage purposes, so, if I should need to leave the country and get a new visa which I would then apply to extend here in BKK (for retirement) what should I actually prepare and take to the consulate- most likely Vientiane or KL? Or could it be that none are needed and all we have to do is state on the form that the purpose of the non-imm O is for retirement, as all the documentation would be done here when applying for the extension? I'm a bit confused and it would be nice to know just in case. Thanks.

Just came back from CW where I was attempting to get a retirement extension for my visa using the embassy income affidavit. There was an unrelated bureaucratic snafu concerning my soon-to-be ex-employer, so no extension today- got to go back Monday with the letter cancelling my visa, which the employer is required to produce, but which they didn't, but ANYWAY...

I asked about the income letter I had (in advance of my second visit) and was told that it was fine, BUT that I had to show "the documents which you presented to the embassy in order to get the affidavit". (That's my best translation of what she said.) Well, I'm an American citizen and the U.S. Embassy, we all know...

All rather vague.

As it happens, I had printed out and brought along copies of the latest statement of my investment account in the States (which is doing very nicely), plus the latest statement of my Citibank account in Singapore, from which I actually take the money for use here, plus photocopies of my Siam Commercial Bank passbook, which has about Bht250,000 in it- basically everything I could think of that could possibly be considered as evidence of sufficient funds to justify the income declaration on the embassy affidavit to the immigration people.

The lady was nice and looked at all the paper, not too closely though, and sort of nodded her head and said "yes" and that it looked OK. And "bring everything back on Monday". A bit reassuring, but...

That still leaves the question of whether the other officials will be so accommodating.

Guess I'll have to wait until Monday afternoon to find out for sure.

Not really my strong point but as far as I know you need to take the required paperwork from the company and apply for a Work Permit at the Labour Office.

With the receipt they give you go to a Thai Consulate outside Thailand and apply for a Non Imm B Visa. When you have the Visa go back and collect your Work Permit.

I am sure others will chip in and help with replies.

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In my case, since "retirement" was stamped in my passport together with the visa (retirement extension), the Labor Office absolutely refused to accept an application for a work permit. But when I came back from Vientiane with a brand new Non-imm visa, all was fine- no problems.

I did, or tried to, that is. It can be done but you are required to initiate the process not less than 21 (I think) days before the expiry of the visa. I was on a retirement extension, after having worked here quite a few years, but the organization I now work for started the visa change process too close to the expiry date (about 14 days or so, as I recall) and immigration wouldn't touch it. Part of this saga is in a thread on this site- the dates are May-June 2009. As a result I had to go to Vientiane to get a new Non-imm visa and start from square 1.

All is fine now, just be sure your organization contacts Immigration well in advance so they will know just what paperwork is needed, and when.

Thank you for the replies, thaiphoon and fozzy58uk. And thanks a million for the recommendation of Khun Ex, thaiphoon. I talked with him a short while ago and here is a progress report:

He thinks that the problem is that my former employer (another university) did not properly inform the labor dept.that I had resigned. They produced a letter for me to take to immigration but that was all, and nothing was mentioned about the labor dept (other than that I didn't have to do anything). Therefore, my name is still in the system at the labor office, and they won't issue 2 wps to the same person.

If that is, in fact, the case, then I have to fill out and sign a form saying that I no longer work at the previous place. He suggested that I copy the letter from the university and hand it in to the wp people together with the form. It seems a fairly simple thing to do, but I'm so rattled that I want Sunbelt to do this for me, no matter that I have to pay out of my own pocket. The peace of mind would be worth it. But Khun Ex said that some of these schools will not allow outsiders to do this sort of thing for their employees. So, I'm going to check this with the Deputy Director and if it's OK with the university, I intend to send some business Sunbelt's way- VERY soon.

Then I'll write a follow-up report in the hopes that it may be of some benefit to someone else in the future.

Thanks, guys.

Upon advice, I'm reposting my problem in this forum in the hopes that someone reading here may have some experience in this matter. Or a recommendation for a lawyer. Fingers crossed, knock on wood.

(This is the link to the original thread: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Returning-Wo...l-t277622.html)

In my continuing saga of returning to work after a year's "retirement", the new twist is that the dept. secretary was just told (for the first time) by the work permit office today (in Bangkok- Dindang) that they will not accept my application for a work permit because I did not return my previous one. Of course, when I quit my job in June last year, the word was that it was not necessary to return the wp. That was confirmed by the dept. secretary at my previous employer. And there was a thread here by one person who was told directly by the wp office that his trip to return the wp was totally unnecessary. Back last June I had the letter of termination of employment, went to immigration and switched from the work extension to the retirement extension with no hitches at all.

The previous problem this time around was that the wp office wouldn't accept the application since it had "retirement" stamped by the visa in the passport, and immigration wouldn't grant any sort of extension since there were less than 21 days remaining on my retirement extension. So, I went to Vientiane to get a brand new non-imm B and everything was AOK. Then today...

(my previous post on this topic was: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Work-Retirem...l-t273584.html)

Does anybody know anything about this? Have the rules changed AGAIN? Or is this just a case of the particular individual she talked to today? (She's even more frustrated with those people than I am.) Does anyone know of a source of the actual regulation? I've seen the info on the link: http://www.dejudomlaw.com/index.php?option...09&Itemid=9

which was posted in the thread: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Documents-Ne...l&p=2589077

But it would be nice to have something official.

Any ideas on how to proceed? The secretary says that I have to go to the wp office by myself and get this cleared up. But I'm not keen on going there alone- just in case somebody there has unfriendly ideas. I'm considering hiring someone from one of the law offices to accompany me and try to get this cleared up once and for all. Any recommendations of law firms? There are plenty advertising here and in the papers but if anyone can recommend a place based on their experience, I'd very much appreciate it.

Help! This is getting "boring"! (Sigh!)

Gee...any ideas on how to proceed? The secretary says that I have to go to the wp office by myself and get this cleared up. But I'm not keen on going there alone- just in case somebody there has unfriendly ideas. I'm considering hiring someone from one of the law offices to accompany me and try to get this cleared up once and for all. Any recommendations of law firms? There are plenty advertising here and in the papers but if anyone can recommend a place based on their experience, I'd very much appreciate it.

It's the Dindang office here in Bangkok.