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hello

i read your reply regarding health insurance in thailand. sounds like you already expereinced this journey of acquiring the nescessary needs to live there. Iam currently living in Canada, but will eventually be residing in thailand. I will be taking my 2 children with me to live, as well my thai wife. I would greatly appreciate any advice you would be willing to share with me regarding this topic. As i indicated having my children with me , nescessiates the need to have family coverage. Iam fumbling my way through all the extras that come into play as aprt of relocating...again I do appreciate any info you would be willing to share.

Sincerley

Tom

I'm American. Want to go to Canada to research setting up a business and second home. Would like to take my Thai girlfriend with me if possible.

Is this possible?

I was told for England its like a 90% Visa approval rate. Same for Canada? Any info appreciate.

Thx

my experience was negitive as well. I have a finance in Udon thani. After visiting her for a month in Feb. Before i returned we decided to ahve her come to Canada for a visit 2 months. Came back and began my paper trail of acquiring all the documentation required so that when she ent to Bkk, it was legit and officialized on my end by my lawyer. They made her fly to Bkk twice, let me tell you i acccumulated all the documents and more to support that she was ONLY here on a visit. on her second trip to Bkk, they interviewed her twice, second time on the office they said "NO". There reasoning, she was young...ha. as well I need to come to see her 2-3 more times, also be married to her.

While I was there i purchased some land and had a home designed to be built, It is in her name, so now Iam returning i Nov. we are to be maried and the home will be completed when I arrive. HAving said that we are both going to fly to Bkk after our marriage, to apply for the visa...again. Apparently this time it is suppose to be assured...."i do ont beleive any of the bs the govt consulate talks of" I can tell you that for one: the person ding the interview is thai citizen, not canadain. Also they are very biased towards women who come from socially economic depressed areas especially the Issan region. I learnt this after, from a freind that lives outside of Bkk.

I did learn that if the girl is coming ot canada on a work visa...(ie) if she is sponsored by an employer, such as a night club or caberat...she walks in and walks out withhe visa...I have seen this!! So for us to have gf's come here on honest visits, they label the woman as oportunist, wanting to illegally stay here...it si very frustrating to say the least. IN my case Iam leaving canada in 09. To reside in Thailnd. Unitl then, I feel that the system is treating me as tough Iam a criminal, i have worked here all my life...own a home...ect. So here iam.

So to your reply, I can tell you, make sure you develop a sincere and in deth compilation of as much informatin as possible, remember, owning land or a home on the land is as good or better than a marriage certificate. If her family has land, get some in her name, at a local land title office. Sounds absurd, but i have expereinced it... as well, an adres incanada they can trace as a residence when you are there...no hotels allowed...its true.

hope some of this will help you wiht your journey, remember, having the job is important but not ther deciding factor. Gather as much informtion as you can.

good luck

Tom

The Esaan look is very boring and common , in fact they are dime a dozen where ever you go - especially in the bar scene , if that is were you go looking for you wife before moving up to Nakon Nowhere with her

I am sending this fool a warning for disrespectful comments.

I was going to edit his posts but it may serve us as a reminder of what a bigot's post looks like.

I agree with you, once a bigot always...but at the end of the day it is his insecurities that he sleeps with. Not a person who can love and respect for the who NOT that what!!! loneliness is lie stress it is the silent killer....

Hello dbrenn

my name is Tom Young Iam from Canada, the province Ilive in is called Alberta, the city is called Fort mcmurray. I read your story about your journey to attainng a thai citizenship. quite the story. Iam writing to you because I have a fiance who lives outside(42km) of Udon Thani, and I could use all the help on l;earning about the thai system! IAm currently building a home in the village of Non Simma.

If you could I would appreciate emailing to you about your life in Thailand...Iam currently employeed by an oil corporation here in Ft Mcmurray, but my plan is to move to Thailand in 1-2 years...maybe sooner. But I donot quite understand the issues surrouonding the Farangs lving there (visa's) ect. I may be taking 2 of my children to live with me, they are 14 & 12..Any how I will keep it short, please if you do not mind could you email me to let me now if you would share your experiences and knowledge with me?

sincerely

Tom Young

My email adress is thanks again and hope to hear fro you. I do have mnay questions to ask, if you do not mind.

Hi All,

For those who are interested, the application process for Thai

Citizenship in my case went as follows:

Late 2003 - Picked up the checklist from the Police Headquarters on

Rama 1 Road

January 2004 - Took all my documents to the Police Department, in what

I thought was a word perfect application. However, since I was

applying in January and this being a new tax year, my tax returns from

the three preceding years were not enough. An oversight on my part, so

waited until I got my most recent tax retirn PNG 91 for 2003

March 2004 - Try again. This time my application was successfully

lodged. Paid the 5,000 Baht fee. Got fingeprinted. Signed my name (in

Thai) on dozens of firms. Took two Thai witnesses and later my wife

plus kids to show that they were real. Took forms issued to me by the

police department to immigration and my disctrict office. Later went

back to pick up the completed forms and take them back to the police

department

April 2004 - Thai language interview at the Police Department

September 2004 - Invited to the Interior Ministry. Showed them my work

permit, passport, alien registration certificate and certificate of

residence. Then, I was shown into a room with around 40 people

watching me. I was given a microphone and asked to sing the Thai

National anthem and Phra Baramee (the one they play in the cinema).

Yes, really. Managed to keep a straight face. Got interviewed in Thai

- basic Q&A about my circumstances. Around the same time, a group of

three officials from the Interrior Ministry visited my house to see if

my domestic circumstances were as described on my application form

Waited

Waited

February 2006 - Got the good news that the then Interior Minister Khun

Kongsak had approved my application

March 2006 - Got a letter to notify me of the above

Waited

(September 2006 - military coup)

Waited

November 2006 - Got the good news that the King had countersigned my

application

December 2006 - One of the most memorable parts: the oath. Just

after the King endorsed my application, I was asked to report to the

police department in business attire, armed with a candle, a lotus

flower and an incense stick. I then had to stand with these in my

hands while clasped in a wai, in front of a Buddhist shrine, repaeting

an oath of allegance to King and country, and promising to be an

upright and law-abiding citizen.

Waited

Waited

April 2007 - Got the good news that the new Interior Minister Khun

Aree had announced in the Interior Ministry notices that a bunch of

applicants including me could now get Thai nationality

May 2007 - Got the paperwork and certificate from the Police HQ to

take to the disctrict office to get my ID card. Now I must return my

work permit, alien residence certificate and certificate of residence

to respective authorities as these are no longer needed. Now I can

apply for a passport

Told that my application was one of the faster ones these days.

Getting Thai Citizenship IS a pain in the arse - but look on the

bright side:

1) Now I can own what I buy, land, house, etc

2) No need for a work permit, and no restricted occupations. I can now

drive a Tuk Tuk for a living if the going gets tough in the IT

industry

3) Now I can get in free to the Grand Palace and pay the Thai rate for

national parks

4) I can own a business

5) I can get a Thai passport and visit countries like Laos and Vietnam

visa free

6) No need for that expensive old yearly Resident Return visa. No

limit to the amount of time that I spend out of Thailand without

losing my residency

7) I can use the Thai passport lane at the airport (shorter queues)

8) In my case, no need to give up my old nationality

9) I have a new Thai identity, forename and surname. Good for

travelling to places that dislike my country of origin

10) I think that I can even vote, although I am not sure who is worth

voting for

All you need to do is satisfy the following to apply:

http://phuketgazette.com/issuesanswers/details.asp?id=759

Golden rules are:

1) Be patient and never get upset. The people that handle your

application do not make the rules and do not have any power over what

happens in the Interior Ministry

2) Get a coach. Not an expensive lawyer - just make friends with one

of the officials that handles your application

Cheers

hello again

it s Tom Young Imeant to give you my email adress, on my last message to you, if you wouldn't mind could you email me as i am still learning the thai visa sytem...my email is <<email deleted>>

thanks

sincerley

Tom Young

hello all

Iam new tho the forum, and have been reading many of your life experiences livng in thailand. Some are very interesting that are quite informative. AS a canadain citizen still residing in Canada, I have become engaged to my now fiance, who resides in a village outside of Udon Thani. i will keep this inquiry reasonable. After spending a month in January with her and her family, I retruned to Canada with plans of having her come ver here on a tourist visa to spend some time wiht me...I proceeded to compile all the paper work that is required by the beauratic canadain system...i sent what I thought was more than enough officailized documents to support our relatonship.

After much foot work on my part an a lot of work on my fiance's part It was all taken to the canadain Emabssy in BKK. There her and her aunt meet a consultant who I was told specializes in organizing visa's for thailand residents looking to travel abroad. My thai is not good at this point in time, so clear understanding of the whole deal was some what cloudy at times. BUT I have much trust in her and her aunt, they give the papers to the consultant who does her thing wiht the canadaina embassy...they fly back to Udon and wait...14 days later they get a call from the canadian embassy telling them they must fly to BKK and come to the embassy for a interview, that wa on May 8th, that day when they left that day she was told to go back the next day for a second interview, I was suspecting some thing was uup now....on May 9th the next day they refused her the tourist visa....I asked on what grounds to her when we sopke. they told her that i musty go to thailand 3 more times and also marry her before they will consider giving her a visa...I was so angry...she was honest and up front with intentions and i have a home as well above average life here in Canada. But they refuse her...

Can any one enlighten me on my mistakes?????? I could use any ones input to this load fo canadain crap, I can say that iam ashamed to be part of thsi country,...any how thats for another time. hope to hear from you

thanks

Tom

last time I was there the guy asked me only if I had had any coffee yet that morning as I'd made numerous errors on the application form!

JR Texas: I was there last month, but for a different visa. I just wanted to point out that $$$ tends to solve virtually any problem that you may encounter in Lao PDR (and Thailand).

When you go to the Thai Embassy, outside of it you will see a couple of guys sitting behind a table underneath a tree......they will offer to help you with any visa problems.

My advice for what it is worth: Pay the guys outside of the Embassy 100 baht to fill out the forms properly (they will ask 4000-5000). Then, go inside the Embassy and see if you can get the tourist visa you want.

If there is a problem, go back outside and see if they can help you......they probably can, but it will cost you an extra 4000 to 5000 baht and will likely take one more day.

I have contact info. for the guys that are working outside the Embassy wall. But I am not going to list it on the open forum. They assured me, over lunch, that they could take care of lots of things, including visas and setting up businesses. I assumed they were former police officers with connections to immigrations officials inside the Embassy.