Humanoid

11 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

Where do you want us to send the flowers?

Send them to R01AI110964

Thanks!

1 minute ago, robblok said:

I used the equasion as a tool to explain the faster spread. Not to match a graph because anyone with half a brain knows this is impossible because of many outside factors.

If it's "impossible" to match the graph, then how do you know that your "delta" explanation is correct?

"well it gives bigger numbers"... yeah it gives bigger numbers, but how much bigger.  And how much bigger is that bulge in the data?  It's just a 2x slope.  You can't say that since this is bigger and that is also bigger, so that's proves it's the correct explanation.  You need something much more quantitative than that.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your simplistic ‘match the math to the graph’ ignores all the other influences on transmission of the virus: 

I'm not the one who posted the 2^x and 4^x sequences.  I'm not saying that those are the correct equations.  I'm just showing that those equations DON'T match the data.  And are therefore incorrect equations.

I'm not the one ignoring the other influences.  It is your equations that are ignoring the other influences.

In fact, all the equations posted here to explain the Delta explanation, have a zero match with the data.

If your equations don't match the data, then they are not correct explanations.

If you have a correct equation, go ahead and post it.  And let's see if it matches the data.

For those who are considering the 2^x and 4^x sequences that were posted by robblok as a valid explanation.  Just take any graphing calculator, for example here:

https://www.desmos.com/calculator

On the top left box, enter y = 2^x and then in the 2nd box below it, enter y = 4^x.  The x will appear in superscript as you type it.  You will see 2 graphs drawn on the right.  At x = 0, you will see y = 1 for both representing 1 you know what.  At x = 1, you will see the graphs go to 2 and 4, and at x = 2, you will see them go to 4 and 16.  These are the 2 sequences that robblok gave as an explanation for the graph that I posted earlier, which has been deleted by a moderator.

Now try to match up those 2 graphs with the other graph that he claims these are a valid explanation for.  If he is correct, the 4^x graph should be matched up with that thing seen in 2021, while the 2^x graph should be matched up with things seen earlier.

You can even try stretching the graphs horizontally by replacing x with something like x/10.  Zoom in.  Zoom out.  See if you can find anything that matches.

If you know what a derivative is, you can also take the derivative of both equations if you think that changes anything.

You can also try modifying the equations to make them more realistic to account for real life behaviour.

I have my own alternative idea to all this, however, it is believed by others to be a lie.  And lies are not allowed to be mentioned on this forum.  So I will not mention what my alternative idea is.

To be clear to the moderators.  I have zero intention of breaking any of the forum rules here.  I hope that what I wrote above, which is mostly about math, does not violate any of the rules here.  I'm being very careful about what I write.

Maybe I should stop posting in this thread altogether.  I'm afraid I might get banned from the forum if I accidentally misspeak in some way.  I think a lot of people already hate me for having alternative ideas.

Silenced Humanoid

For those considering that the giant spikes shown in the Thailand graph above are due to a new variant.  Remember that Delta is only about twice as infectious as the previous one.  Does that graph look like the work of a virus that is only twice as infectious as the previous one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

Look in the table where it says +97%.  Then look again at the Thailand graph I posted earlier.  It's not too hard to make a good guess.

What age does she have to be, by which date?

Hello, our Thai daughter is 4 years old, and is going to finish Anuban 2 soon.  She is at the top of her class for the 2nd year in a row, and is far ahead of all her peers because we already taught her a lot at home ourselves.  I noticed that education is only compulsory starting from Prathom 1.  So does that mean our daughter can just skip Anuban 3, and start Prathom 1 after finishing Anuban 2?  What do we parents have to do to make that happen?  Is it just a matter of taking an entrance exam for Prathom 1?

Thanks!

Thanks to everybody who offered me their advice! I really appreciate it!

Well, turns out the problem is not over, but it is over for me.

Previously they made it look like they made an honest mistake of not having any record of me cancelling the account last April, and they made silly excuses for not cancelling over email later on because they claimed they didn't have the "right to cancel" it unless I show up in person with my passport. I previously gave them the benefit of the doubt that this might have been an honest mistake on their part, so I continued to press them, even though I did not believe it was an honest mistake. Now, after 2.5 months, they finally admitted that I did in fact go to their shop and told them to cancel the account. Yet, they still refuse to take any action and want me to go to their True Shop in person again before the "staff at True store will pass your case to the team in-charge to consider for service charge adjustment during that period." Since they already know that I cancelled the account, they should just remove the charges, and not tell me to go see them in person before they will even "consider" it. This is the point at which it becomes 100% clear what kind of business they are operating, and I will no longer communicate or do business with them. I now have email proof that I already went to their shop and told them to cancel the account.

I've got some partially good news. True internet emailed me and:

1- They admitted that I went to their shop in early April to cancel the service. (FINALLY, after 2.5 months!)

2- And they also admitted that they did not cancel the service.

Isn't that nice?

Well, the problem isn't completely over. They now say:

"please bring the Router and Adapter to contact them once again. After that they will pass your case to the team in-charge to consider for service charge adjustment during that period."

I replied telling them to fix the charges on my account _now_, and that I'll be waiting for the final bill with the correct charge to arrive in the mail. We'll see if they can finish their job or if they want me to keep playing their silly game of showing up in person at their incompetent true shops only for them to wait 2.5 months before admitting that I even showed up!

JaseTheBass, my gf says you are right: 1 year contracts are invalid and illegal to enforce. She did some searching and found out that there are LOTS of thai people who try to cancel their True internet service but True refuses to honour the cancellation, just like they did with me. Furthermore, during her searching, she also found out that nobody has to pay any fee for cancelling an internet service regardless of what some contract says, PLUS anybody who has already paid any cancellation fee can get their money back! Here is a video of some government official explaining it: (translations are welcome!)

Indeed, collection agencies do exist in Thailand. I've seen a letter from collection agency sent to my gf who owed money for her student loan, and the letter was threatening to take the parents (who co-signed) to court to take away their home. There were no problems earlier with her late payments, but changes in regulations in recent years made things more strict, so back pay was demanded to come earlier and faster, causing the collection agency letter to be sent with the threat. Luckily the back payment was paid, so no court appearance was necessary.

And True does go after people who have unpaid bills. My gf used to have True internet in chonburi a few years ago, she cancelled the account and moved back to the north-east. True falsely claimed that she didn't cancel and also refused to just cancel it over the phone after discussing it. Since there was no True office in her province, she actually went to a neighboring province 3 hours away to cancel the account in person! And then somebody (either True or a collection agency) was calling her every day for the unpaid bill, so she eventually paid the bill.

To MyFrenU and SantiSuk, here's an interesting link I found:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collection_agency

I think it will answer all your questions and suspicions.

As for those who are talking about automatic payments. I never had automatic payments set up with True, so those charges are not yet paid. But they are accumulating on the bill. The only reason I know they are accumulating on the bill is because I can see the bill online over here:

http://iservice.truecorp.co.th/

However, I never got a single bill in the mail, because it seems that went I went to the True shop to cancel the service and change my address, not only did they not cancel the service, but they didn't change my address either. So they are very likely still sending the bills to my old address.

It's amazing, because when I went to the True branch (with my passport), I actually displayed my new address on my phone, and handed over my phone to the girl so she could copy the address without mistakes, and I actually watched her meticulously copy my new address into the computer! Yet, True still doesn't have my new address! It's as if all that time, she was copying my address directly into /dev/null;

JJ Madcow, They didn't give me any paper, and the thought of asking for some paper didn't cross my mind, since I've never experienced anything like this before in my life. This was the True Shop on South Pattaya Road next to TukCom. In the future, I will ask for a paper, and make sure it has their signature on it, and get a photocopy of their ID card, but they'll probably refuse, so I'll also have to get everything on video, and bring 20 witnesses, and leave some permanent graffiti on their walls saying "Humanoid Wuz Here!" with the date.

zoza, really sucks that they did that to you. At least I didn't give them any deposit for anything, but who knows how many more months of charges they will continue to add to my bill, because this is still ongoing, and they still refuse to cancel the non-existing service!

I don't believe for a second that what they're doing is an honest mistake. Why don't they just cancel the non-existing service already? There's no excuse for that.

No, my 12th month was the last bill that I was waiting for but never received. They are falsely charging me for a 13th, month, and then added a 14th month. And if they don't stop this nonsense, there will be a 15th month soon. All for a service that I already cancelled, and don't even have in my condo.

It's actually possible to cancel before the 1 year contract too, with a fee. So contract or no contract, when somebody cancels a service, you're supposed to stop adding monthly charges, and not tell the person to "wait" while they wait for an update from their own people, and keep adding more monthly charges.

(to MyFrenU who thinks it's easy to just not pay: you won't think it's so easy when a collection agent starts calling your house every day and following you around until you pay the false charges.)

In the beginning of April, I moved out of my old condo. After I moved out, I went to a True Shop, showed them my passport, gave them my new address, and canceled my account.

I should have one more bill showing up for one last month, so I waited for the last bill to show up in my mail.

After a while of the bill not showing up I became suspicious so I emailed them and told them I have not received my last bill after I changed my address and cancelled my account.

They replied saying that my account is still active, and to give them the True branch that I went to to cancel the account. I told them which branch, and they replied saying that they have contacted them and are waiting for their reply.

After 3 weeks that they didn't get back to me, I logged into the online billing website and saw that they are still adding more monthly charges to the account.

I told them to stop adding charges because I already canceled the account, but they keep telling me to wait for the true shop to give them an update.

I told them that I don't have any True Internet in my home, and that I already cancelled the account, but they still keep replying to me to just wait for the true shop to give them an update.

Now, as I keep waiting for their true shop to give them an update, the online billing website says that I owe them for 3 months of internet service, and it's surely going to keep going up because they refuse to cancel my account, and keep telling me to wait while they add more monthly charges. They keep telling me that they will get back to me shortly.

They told me that they don't have the right to cancel the account. But I told them that I have that right, and that I already canceled it. And that they don't have the right to keep charging my account for a cancelled service that I cannot even use since there is no True connection at my condo.

How do I cancel the account? Should I continue emailing them every day to tell them to cancel my account? Or should I do as they say, which is to just sit here and wait for the true shop to update them, while they keep adding charges to my account every month?

I called the PEA, and they confirmed that they cannot change the date of the billing cycle.

They told me that I have to go look at the meter myself on the day that I move in, and then prorate it after the bill comes in. Sounds good to me!

When I moved in to my current rental place, I asked the agent to get the meter numbers for water and electricity, and she gave them to me. However, when I got the first bills, I could see that the meter numbers she gave me were from more than a week before I moved in. Knowing that the extra I was billed was probably less than 1000 baht, I decided to just let it go, and pay the extra.

However, I am going to rent a new condo soon, and I want to avoid paying extra this time. I already know that I will be paying to the goverment, which is the PEA since this is Pattaya.

How do I get the meters' billing dates reset on the day that I move in? (Both water and electricity) Do I contact the PEA myself? Or does the owner have to do it?

I already decided that I won't hand over the deposit and rent until I see the meter numbers with my own eyes this time, but even if I know what the numbers are, I want the first bill to start on the date that I moved in, and not a week or more earlier. I want everything to be done cleanly and safely, so there is no chance of arguments on bills that don't start and end on the dates that I move in and out on.

True put be back behind the NAT for the 3rd time! It's only been 2 months since the last time they took me off of it.

What's really bad is that you usually only find out just when you need it the most! When you're trying to connect to your home from outside and are not able to connect, and there's nothing you can do to fix it because you can't reach your home!

True also repeatedly has connection outages here in Pattaya. Over 5 times per week. Sometimes lasting over 10 minutes!

I think it's time I start shopping for a new ISP. Does anybody know any other ISP's in Pattaya with a reliable and fast international connection to Japan with better service than True? I have been on the internet since 1994, and none of the other ISP's in my life have ever given me any problems whatsoever. They all just gave me a connection that worked, and always worked. True in Pattaya is by far the worst ISP I have ever experienced in my entire life! Why are they repeatedly putting me back behind their horrible NAT that doesn't even work properly? Why do they keep having connection outages? What is wrong with them???

Suddenly, True put be back behind a NAT. I emailed them, and got no response. Then I called, and this time the guy knew exactly what a NAT was and told me he'll take me off of it.

I told him that I was not behind a NAT for the last 6 months, and asked him why they suddenly changed to put me behind a NAT. He checked his logs and told me that there was "no user action", and that it was probably "automatic".

Looking at the date that I originally started this thread shows me that it's pretty much exactly 6 months ago when I had this issue before. So it looks like their system automatically puts people behind a NAT after 6 months of being off it.

If that's so, I'm going to have to call them every 6 months to remind them that I cannot be behind a NAT!

Unless your ISP assigned WAN (External) IP Address falls within a range of IPv4 numbers designated as either Reserved or Private, your Internet Connected IP Address has the ability to directly reach and be reached by all other Internet Connected active Public IP Addresses.

Actually this is not always the case. It is only recommended that a nat uses a ip's from one of the private ranges for the internal network, but not required. A nat will function just fine even when the local network uses other addresses, even public addresses that are already used by others. When I was behind that nat with true yesterday, the ip address assigned to my adsl modem was in the 100.x.x.x range, and NOT the 10.x.x.x range. 100.x is not in the classical private ip address range. My public ip address as seen by websites I visit was 70.x.x.x. The newly allocated block for nat's is 100.64.0.0/10, however, I can't recall if the second byte in my ip address was in that block. I only remember that the first one was 100, and not 10.

Going into my True provided DOCSIS (cable) modem I see I have a WAN address of:

WAN IP Address: 58.X.XX.XX

The best way to check if you're behind a nat would be a 2 step process. First compare this "wan ip" address that your isp assigns you with the ip address seen by external websites when you visit them, such as ipchicken.com. If they match, you are probably not behind a nat. But to be sure, load up a server of some kind in your home, like an http server with a unique message posted on it, and try to load it from outside the country to see if you can see this unique message. If this 2nd test passes as well, you are very likely not behind a nat. If you don't have access to a server outside the country to test, there are websites that can load a url of your choice and give you a screen shot.

I'll lay odds that you have been behind a NAT router since you first got broadband you just haven't noticed. It's how the multiple IP addresses on your internal network get translated into the single IP address that the rest of the world sees.

It just works, don't fret about it.

No. I know I was never behind a NAT before.

I was never talking about a home NAT.

The NAT that they had put me on was inside their buildings. But they now took me off it as explained in my previous post.

They suddenly took me off the NAT which is great! I guess some time after I hung up the phone, they must've found somebody who understood what a NAT was and then just took me off it.

I guess now they are defaulting to putting new customers behind a NAT, and only taking them off after they complain.

I recently ordered high speed internet with True, and to my surprise found out that I am behind a NAT!

I tried calling them to ask them to let me connect to the internet without going through a NAT, and they didn't understand a thing I was saying. They even asked what a NAT is. I had to explain that it stands for network address translation, and told them they can just look it up on wikipedia. I asked if I can speak to somebody who actually knows how the internet works, but it seems there was nobody there with those qualifications.

At one point they offered me a static ip address for triple the price of what I'm paying now. I tried to explain to them that I prefer a dynamic ip rather than a static ip, but that I just don't want to be behind a NAT, but as usual, they didn't understand what a NAT was.

I used to have true internet several years ago, and they never put me behind a NAT before. In fact, no isp has ever put me behind a NAT in my life before. How can they start putting people behind a NAT, and then not even understand what they are doing to their customers when we call to complain about it?

So I went through the Ban Pakard / Pailin border in both directions. No fingerprints at all. What's even more awesome is that the Cambodian side didn't even take a photo.

There are a lot of upgrades compared to the last time I went there about 8 years ago, when the Cambodian immigration used to be just a wooden hut. Now they actually have a concrete building, and the crossing is open from 6 am to 10 pm.

Thanks to all who provided some info!

So far, there are several reports about Poipet having a fingerprint scanner, but pseudo-randomly skipping some people.

And only one report about the Pailin crossing from Fall 2013, where they did not take fingerprints.

Are there any more recent reports from the Pailin and Daun Lem crossings? In 2014 or 2015?