frtiz

I just came back last night from Nakhon Sawan via BKK to Chonburi and it took me 8,5 hours (normally 4 hrs flat). (I left NS around 3 PM)

The 32 southbound to bangkok is a nightmare around the exit to Uthai. There are still loads of cars parked on the road and a couple of tents which caused a 2,5 hr traffic jam.

The road is damaged here and there and you should be careful there. Heading South on the 9 eastern ring road it's all dried up but traffic jams are really bad due to the damaged toll gate. I got stuck before the Rangsit exit and actually decided to go past Nakhon Nayok. 305 is fine eastbound although the road is damaged here and there.

Last Friday heading north the 9 was OK except for the damaged Lam Lukka tollgate. Wang Noi Bang pa in crossing (9 heading towards 32) was fine.

I hope the government will take care of the people still living on the road and that the Highway police is going to take care of the cars parked 3 lanes thick severely blocking traffic. I understand people don't want to walk too far to a pedestrian walkover but if 50 meters down the road there is enough parking spaces left I don't see the need to create dangerous situations.

Does anyone know the condition of the bang pa in exit coming from the 9 eastern ring road connecting to the 32 north bound to Ayuthaya?

Many thanks,

Fritz

Coming of the #9 there is no problem continuing to Ayutthaya.

The tollgates are #9 were the cause of major traffic jams last Friday around peak hour

No idea how traffic currently goes around that area..

Thanks, Ill venture it tomorrow. I'm travelling from Chonburi to Nakhon Sawan every week and I really don't want to go past nakhon nayok saraburi onto the 21 again.

Does anyone know the condition of the bang pa in exit coming from the 9 eastern ring road connecting to the 32 north bound to Ayuthaya?

Many thanks,

Fritz

Hi Everyone,

I have to drive from Chonburi to Nakhon Sawan tomorrow.

Does anyone have an update on the Ringroad East number 9 Kanchanpisek. Is it possible to pass with a normal car? A couple of days ago the area around lamlukka was still flooded.

Also does anyone know whether the Wang Noi Bang pa in intersection is open connecting the 9 with the 1 going into the 32 to ayuthaya?

Thanks!

Hi Thanks, for your quick reply.

I jumped to the gun I found the picture just after posting.

Great info here. I'm trying to get back to my house in Nakhon Sawan from Chonburi. Last time on Oct 6th it took me 10 hours. AArrgghh.

Cheers!

does anyone know the status on the Kanchanapisek East ring road from Suvharnabhumi to Bang pa in?

Thanks!

hi its closed at lam luk ka , if you check the morning post on this thread you will see the photo,

things are changing hour by hour , so tomorrow maybe a different story

does anyone know the status on the Kanchanapisek East ring road from Suvharnabhumi to Bang pa in?

Thanks!

Does anyone have info on the ringroad Kanchanapisek East and the connection with Wang Noi?

If you come from Chonburi and you want to go to Ayuthaya is that possible in a relatively easy way?

Thanks!

They forgot to put in the "SATIRE" mark in the left top corner.

Besides the question why these kids did it and whether it was in bad taste better ask yourself: How the hell did they get all these uniforms and flags????

Who is so ignorant/sick to sell this stuff.

Honda Chainat horrendous avoid if possible

Honda Pattaya even worse

Honda Pitsanulok OK

Honda Nakhon Sawan, avoid if possible.

Honda Phuket service is terrible

Honda Hua Hin is great

cant comment on other Honda garages

Well that's the thing, my driving is generally considered to be gentle. When back at University in Europe I had a part time job as a private chauffeur, drove all sorts of people, CEO's etc and never received a single complaint. Most of the trips ended with generous tips and that wasn't because they were happy we got back home in one piece. ;-)

I have done over 200K kms in Thailand now over the last couple of years and I have never had this problem before. In Europe idem, never a problem.

Our other car, a soluna, has done over 200K and only have had some normal repairs with the brakes, and as far as I know the original rotors are still on there, only changed the pads.

I'll take the car to shop to have it checked.

Honda service in Thailand is terrible. You have to wait ages before you can enter a 'queue' and then still you have to wait 3 hrs before they even look at your car.

Yes, sounds like the brake rotors are warped. Easy to fix though.

+1, its not the age of the car that determines the brake wear its how you drive it and how many km's you've done. My girlfriends mum goes through a set of rotors about every 20,000km because she is so hard on the brakes.

JEEZESSSSS.. After that you should really put up a description of the car as a public service announcement

I would not like to be behind her when she's slamming on the brakes

Its scary being in the car with her, about a year ago I went with my girlfriends family to a birthday party coming home about to go down my girlfriend's families driveway she's driving way too fast and slams on the brakes comes within about 9 inches of T-boning my car which was parked outside their house.

It doesnt matter what car she drives the brake pads are lucky to last 7,000km and the rotors like I said about 20-25k tops. She usually drives a 2000 Holden Commodore which is fine, i've driven a couple of times myself when my cars been getting serviced its just the way she drives. She even ruined the rotors on my girlfriends dads car which was fine for 50,000km and then suddenly about 15,000km after the mechanic said they would be fine for another 50,000km she drove it for about a month and they were ruined too.

Does this mean the rotors should be replaced or can they be resurfaced?

I remember from my 600cc Yamaha bike that the mechanic at the Y. dealer just resurfaced the rotors and realligned the bolts of the brake pad holders and replaced the brake pads.

Yes, sounds like the brake rotors are warped. Easy to fix though.

Hi everyone,

My City 2010 53K kms is showing some vibrations in the steering wheel while braking at speeds higher than 110 Kph. There is no pulsation or vibration in the brake pedal though and it sometimes it's a bit noisy while braking. rattling sound but not very loud.

I've searched the internet and most people say it's most likely the pads or the rotors. But is this possible after only 1 year? I bought it last year in June.

I usually drive highway kms 350-400 kms per trip and don't stop very often as I have a bad back and can't get out of the car easily.

Has anyone had a similar experience with Honda/other brands?

Thanks,

Fritz

These guys should team up with Presidential Candidate Bachman and her sick institute trying to cure homosexuals.

What is it with any form of religion and their misogynistic and xenophobic attitudes?. (yes I know Buddhism is not strictly deemed a religion)

On reading the title I thought this was another 'Not the Nation' article but alas the sad reality is that it's not..

Brilliant! The article could have gone for real if it didn't carry the label SATIRE.

Excuse me... A 4 year BA DEGREE is absolutely NECESSARY to teach legally here. When found teaching without a degree immediate deportation follows for breaching Thai Labor and Immigration laws.

Posting this is wasting our efforts and money to improve the quality of the CURRENT foreign and Thai teaching staff here in Thailand.

Don't encourage people to look for opportunities to teach without one.

Many thanks!

A degree is not necesarry to teach i Thailand, although it is increasingly getting difficult to teach without one.

Inquire at the teaching section about your changes to teach without one.

The New Testament has been translated into English as well.... I don't think English was that well established in Europe 2000 years ago. Blame the editor. However, the plural of English has been around since 10-15 years as well: World Englishes. Quite a well known term in the world of linguistics.

Maybe the proofreader has been reading the New Testament

41 And when he (Jesus) had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all.

42 And they did all eat, and were filled.

43 And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.

44 And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.

It's the same thing that happens over and over in Thailand, there is not one month without some major story that illustrates exactly that:

Thai Immigration is working against the Tourism Authority of Thailand.

While the TAT or a city tries to attract foreigners and to create a new image (like in the above case, Chiang Mai trying to get a 'Creative City' tag), the Immigration comes in and puts up another of these 'crackdowns'. There would be so many other ways to do this than this very harsh and 'violent' way … but there doesn't seem to be a will to think in an open-minded and reasonable kind of way at Immigration.

It happens again and again in Thailand. I wonder what's the reason for this historic animosity of Immigration against tourism goals.

Money....

Under this legislation, the Department of Employment will consider whether the 'work' could be undertaken by a Thai, whether the foreigner is appropriately qualified and whether the job fits the needs of Thailand. After these factors are considered, the individual requires an organisation such as a company or charity to sponsor them.

"Normally" this is not an issue, however, if they make it an issue who decides to what degree and quality standard the 'work' would be undertaken by a Thai.

What happened to some healthy competition and may the best win?

Alright, well thanks anyway.

I did my homework before I asked the question. Turned out no previous posts for Honda city, nor what the effect on low displacement engines was, hence my question.

I just wanted to make a thoughtful decision in this situation.

However, I'll just go and play hide and seek at this point and mind my own business again.

warranty. manual states what fuels can be used, and as soon as engine is damaged, manufactorer simply says wrong fuel has been used

I have no experience on Ford/Volvos Yamaha developed 2,0 running LPG

Why not Ford Focus 2,0 TDCI, would probably manage 17 km/litres on B5

or Corolla Altis 1,6 CNG manufactorer installed, appox 7 baht/10 km fuel cost, and expect 2-300 k km without damages

High new prices make them relatively unattractive for me. A 2-3 year old focus with 2.0 engine mileage around 50K will be around 500-550K

Focus 2.0TDCI is 1,2 m. and Altis with some options is around 760K.

In addition cng gets you a very low mileage on a tank meaning you have to queue up every 150-200Kms. for at least 30minutes to fill it up.

This has been extensively debated both here in this thread and others, there is plenty of info between them to come to an educated decision. Being a 2010 though assuming it's still under warrantee will be your greatest consideration as you will likely loose it..

I'll try to read through the topics again.

However, spotting valuable information can sometimes be quite challenging if you have to read in between all the personal battles that are being fought out here in LPG related topics, hence my question.

Warranty is void only if can be proven that the damage can be claimed to be the result of modifications, i..e, an LPG installation.

Thanks, Fritz

My experience with 4 valve 2000cc Hondas was not good. None managed 100k km without needing new valves, and some also needed pistons and head

warranty is void the day you install LPG or CNG, Honda LOS does not approve LPG or CNG at all

Toyota has one engine only in LOS CNG approved, old design 1,6 as used in 2010/2011 Altis, 100.000 km warranty on CNG. Mitsubishi CNG warranty is reduced from 160k km to 100k km

main problem is overheating of components in combustion chamber, thus 2stroke oil injection is not really a fix. CNG/LPG approved engines have these parts replaced with more heat resistant parts

Despite these sad news, LPG can still be financially sound, as these repairs are not that expensive on LOS made cars

running gasohol 5 minutes every hour may reduce damages

Thanks

That changes it a bit. 100K would be only 30k after I start saving money, and I'm not quite sure whether that would be interesting. I am hesitant with the smaller displacement engines. The RPM is higher and therefore probably causing more wear. In addition adding 1000rpm to the combustion temperature (as they say is the rule of thumb as an indication for LPG combustion) this would be a substantial increase (relatively) on a smaller engine.

In Europe there are quite a few models that are LPG equipped rolling out of the factory and I haven't heard that many issues with problems around 100K.

We have had a lengthy discussion with Honda Thailand on this issue and they said although they don't encourage people to install LPG in a Honda they can't legally void the warranty the moment people install it.

Would for instance changing to a Ford focus 2.0L be a smart move? Bigger engine, lower RPM and less wear and if you don't have a heavy right foot the increase in fuel consumption is relatively small.

This has been extensively debated both here in this thread and others, there is plenty of info between them to come to an educated decision. Being a 2010 though assuming it's still under warrantee will be your greatest consideration as you will likely loose it..

I'll try to read through the topics again.

However, spotting valuable information can sometimes be quite challenging if you have to read in between all the personal battles that are being fought out here in LPG related topics, hence my question.

Warranty is void only if can be proven that the damage can be claimed to be the result of modifications, i..e, an LPG installation.

Thanks, Fritz

Thanks for the comments. So 4 in total would be about 2400 baht. Well worth it I guess if they do what is promised by NGK

Any chance of buying them in Pattaya/Jomtien or Nakhon Sawan?

Question:

What would be the main objection to fitting a fuel injected LPG kit (Europegas) into a Honda CIty 1,5l. 2010? Given the fact hat you maintenance it properly of course. (cost of the operation are around 30K)

I drive about 55K a year. My main consideration now is that before you actually start saving money (40K on the meter now) you'll have a car with roughly 75K km. I've heard that cars with smaller displacements in Europe like the Toyota Aygo, C1 107 etc. still face problems with modern LPG kits around 100K km.Burnt in valves etc. Would that also be a problem with displacements of around 1500cc?

I have one car running on LPG toyota soluna 1,5 2002 with a vacuum/mixer system and OK with have had some problems, had to replace the valves etc. but all in all that didn't cost as much as having run on petrol. My wife has done as much as 150K kms with the soluna and it still does the job. Basically it's an older car and I'm not particularly worried about that as long as repairs don't occur too frequently. However, I'm slightly hesitant in fitting it into a newer car (9months old) besides the warranty issues.

Thanks,