Norv

Hi all,

I have a Blackberry phone new but used and boxed, I want to send this DHL to thailand but am informed that their will be a duty on it.

Has anyone an idea what the duty would be as the phone is actually cheaper in thai than the UK.

the phone was bought in the UK but made in Hungary.

What is the duty on this if send DHL as i was told by DHL it will need to be declared in the customs form.

Cost in thai about 12000B in UK 12500B

Any help would be appreciated

Cheers

Norvin

I bought a JRD 4 years ago, biggest load of rubbish on 2 wheels Ive ever had, spent more in the garage than it did on the road at first. Constant problems, slow, poor to non existant customer service, parts only available from JRD dealers. Its now sitting in a shed at my in laws house cos I couldnt sell it. Stay well clear of them.

The spares are all over thailand.

Just look at the Juk Juks that run around Udon Thai they are all the same parts for the electrics other spares are also easily available if you just let the Thai mechanic get the spares for you.

their is a shop in Pattya that is a JRD shop Garage of 4/2010

The father is a big army man in Thailand? If he is that important, he will have sufficient cash on hand to cover up his son's indiscretions. More likely, he would want this episode to go away and not become something big. No one is proud of a drunken son, not even a military officer. My hunch is that the father isn't the one pushing this but either outside 3rd parties looking for a cut. It could be the BiB, the lawyers or both combined. Think about it. If you were a top ranking general would you waste time over a few thousand baht? Would you risk the incident blowing up in your face and facing disciplinary action for abuse of position?

The Thai army is like the old Roman legion. You only get promoted now if the officer ahead of you meets an inglorious fate. That means there are a lot of folks chomping at the general's backside hoping he falls. Don't plead guilty, follow the advice of your insurer and call the bluff. Bear in mind that if you accept liability and ignore the insurer's instruction, the insurer's duty to defend stops. The insurer controls the defense not you since it is the insurer paying. Your accepting guilt could cost you dearly. If someone says the general is going to get you, instruct your legal counsel to contact the Inspector General's office.

HMM i think military or not money is money in Thai.

Yes correct the lawyer is in with the cop sure of it as i had another lawyer and and other things were said.

To be honest they are all in on it like a game with the Westener, they will all make, even if they don't, you will leave most of what you take.

Hi All,

Happy New Year,

I am hoping to come back to Thailand this year.

An update

I have a Problem with a cop who put a Drink Driving Report in my file in the hospital and now wants money from me.

Last year I contacted a lawyer in BKK she took some 26,000B from me only to tell me. Yes you have a problem with Poll Lt Won Sakon.

I contacted her again last week and this is the reply.

######

Hi

I'd talked to the cop, Khun Wongsakorn about your case; currently

he finished the case file and ready to submit it to the

prosecutor. The arrest warrant didn’t issue yet. In case you

like to stay in Thailand, please think about how to fight with the

case.

Regards,

######

(So Strange she charged me loads of money to contact the cop now she seems to do it for free)

What is this over a year to finish a case?

Help from the more learned needed.

I want return to Thailand in the next 3 weeks

I have read through the posts and need a good Lawyer anyone know of one??

Sebastian in Karat yes Great Too busy.

It seems after my Lawyer contacted the Cop in Khon Kean last year she changed.

I found out the Thai guy who ran into me was the son of a Top Military man in Khon Kaen, and wrong Sakon wants money from me.

Insurance have told me NOT to pay the cop, they have paid the hire car.

They will not pay out the drunk that drove into me so the cop wants money from me.

I will be arriving in Thai soon how do I deal with this scam

Do I just pay 10,000 B for drink driving even though I have an affidavit from my Hospital doctor stating that I was not drunk and that no other doctor saw me?

I don’t mind fighting the case, as I do have the evidence but I don’t want to be picked up at the BKK airport and thrown in to the slammer till this is sorted.

I have considered suing the other driver as said in the posted when I am settled in Thailand but I first need to get into Thailand and find a good lawyer that is not instantly going to take the Thai side.

It seems that the cop is waiting to see when I come back to Thai, as it costs to issues a warrant. so he wants to be sure I come back before he submits the arrest warrant to the prosecutor.

I guess that the Lawyer in BBk has informed Lt Wong Sakon of my request to her for help and that I was thinking of returning.

I feel that is what has happened, and why the case is ready for the prosecutor.

I need a good Lawyer and how to find out if I have this arrest warrants and if I do get thrown in the slammer, can I not pay the man??

Help

I am about to respond to my lawyer and would like to puruse the rout of, attack.

From all the posts I have had on this one and with me wanting to return to Thailand, I have decided to request the charge from the police, as I don't have one yet, and then counter sue.

Or not, they will have to spend money

I have found he (Other drivers Father) is a big military man this what it all about the drivers father is in the Thai army.

OK what can I sue for under Thai law he tried to kill me Attempted Manslaughter??

Drunk driving

He had 4 people in the car they could not stand because they were so drunk.

No Insurance

I think Attack here may work as they have money and the Thai courts are I hope reasonably fair.

Yes the doctor said you are very very lucky to be here as I am 60 and the impact was severe

What charges could apply, what is he going to charge me with drunk driving can I challenge that I have an affidavit from the Doctor.

Anyone have an idea of Thai law unfortunately Isan Lawyer are full and have no time.

That alone tells a story

Anyway what do I have to run from drink driving ??

Norv

You know it is so hard to find a good lawyer in Thailand

Having read all some of these stories and things that have happened to people in Thailand and having kids walk passed you in the streets saying maawng maawng Falang, and point at you.

All the dealing with the Thai authorities brings memories to mind of star Trek.

I can’t help see astounding cultural similarities between the Feregi and Thai

Opps can i not say that Falang and Ferengi

Hi All,

Happy New Year,

I am hoping to come back to Thailand this year.

An update

I have a Problem with a cop who put a Drink Driving Report in my file in the hospital and now wants money from me.

Last year I contacted a lawyer in BKK she took some 26,000B from me only to tell me. Yes you have a problem with Poll Lt Won Sakon.

I contacted her again last week and this is the reply.

######

Hi

I'd talked to the cop, Khun Wongsakorn about your case; currently

he finished the case file and ready to submit it to the

prosecutor. The arrest warrant didn’t issue yet. In case you

like to stay in Thailand, please think about how to fight with the

case.

Regards,

######

(So Strange she charged me loads of money to contact the cop now she seems to do it for free)

What is this over a year to finish a case?

Help from the more learned needed.

I want return to Thailand in the next 3 weeks

I have read through the posts and need a good Lawyer anyone know of one??

Sebastian in Karat yes Great Too busy.

It seems after my Lawyer contacted the Cop in Khon Kean last year she changed.

I found out the Thai guy who ran into me was the son of a Top Military man in Khon Kaen, and wrong Sakon wants money from me.

Insurance have told me NOT to pay the cop, they have paid the hire car.

They will not pay out the drunk that drove into me so the cop wants money from me.

I will be arriving in Thai soon how do I deal with this scam

Do I just pay 10,000 B for drink driving even though I have an affidavit from my Hospital doctor stating that I was not drunk and that no other doctor saw me?

I don’t mind fighting the case, as I do have the evidence but I don’t want to be picked up at the BKK airport and thrown in to the slammer till this is sorted.

I have considered suing the other driver as said in the posted when I am settled in Thailand but I first need to get into Thailand and find a good lawyer that is not instantly going to take the Thai side.

It seems that the cop is waiting to see when I come back to Thai, as it costs to issues a warrant. so he wants to be sure I come back before he submits the arrest warrant to the prosecutor.

I guess that the Lawyer in BBk has informed Lt Wong Sakon of my request to her for help and that I was thinking of returning.

I feel that is what has happened, and why the case is ready for the prosecutor.

I need a good Lawyer and how to find out if I have this arrest warrants and if I do get thrown in the slammer, can I not pay the man??

Help

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Sorry Typo that was meant to be 100Km/h to 120 Km/H hhahahah No JRD 150cc will do 100 Mph if did i would not like to on it

Norv

Here are some facts and a few options, but I’m afraid none of them are good.

Under criminal Thai law the police can hold you in jail until the court case, which can be for several years.

What they normally do in these cases is ask you for under counter payments so as not to put you in jail. Than the case is passed on to a prosecutor who may also ask you for further under counter payments. But if you are charged with a criminal offence, it will still go to court, but the final decision is down to the prosecutor whether you should go to court or not, charge or no charge.

As for the police report quoting that you were over the drink driving limit, your doctor would have to physically attend court as an expert witness with his evidence that you were not over the drink driving limit at the time and date of the accident.

In these standard criminal cases, if the police decide to take up the case in defence of the other party and you are unobtainable for the next 5 years, than the case automatically terminates and no charges can be brought against you after that period.

As for the matter of divorcing your Thai wife, you can apply for a fair distribution of assets to the civil court using a Thai lawyer. You do not need to attend or be in Thailand. This is going to cost you and the civil case may take up to 3 years before it reaches court. If your wife disposes of any of your assets here in Thailand without your authority, than she could go to jail as being in contempt of court, because in Thai law, a judge must decide these matters.

In cases like these where there were no injuries or deaths to the other party, there will be no wanted list details about you in any Thai airports, so you should have no problems with the police if you enter Thailand short term providing you stay well clear of Isaan.

Cheers

Thank you for that information and the time writing back

It makes it easier however this cop saying and providing a document that i was drunk while driving is that an offence that they can lock me up for??

Wow scary, I have a Doctors report saying that i was not drunk and had not been drinking, the cop did not get his report from my doctor or any Doctor I have heard of.

Second as you say no lists what if he the cop wants to take me to court as he wants me to pay or the insurance to pay for the other young lads car. Can he then get me put on a list at the airport if i don't attend his call to court although at the moment I am willing to get a Lawyer from BKK to deal with this and contact the DSI

Cheers again

Norv

This doesn’t make sense and usually if the facts don’t add up, than it means there is more to this story.

1. Why wasn’t the driver of the other car, breathalysed and details of the test officially recorded in the police records?

2. Did the police attempt to take witness statements from the local bystanders?

3. Why are not the police prosecuting the other party for dangerous and drunk driving?

4. Did the OP have full insurance coverage on the hire car provided by the hire company?

5. What sort of relationship is it between the Ops wife, police and local syndicate?

This all appears shady which I’m sure is the reasons this matter has become very complicated.

Ok

1) the other driver was drunk and was breathalysed, but that is another issue i am told by the police and that does not mean he is wrong

2) I paid a Thai speaker to do so investigation of witnesses and i was told they were all to scared to talk even with money offered

3) They will prosecute the other chap but that is not my business i am told

4) Yes Full and the car is back working Insurance Thailand paid out for my hired car but not the drunk chaps who hit me therein lies the problem

5) None as far as I know quite certain of that as she is friend of the car hire cop

This doesn’t make sense and usually if the facts don’t add up, than it means there is more to this story.

1. Why wasn’t the driver of the other car, breathalysed and details of the test officially recorded in the police records?

2. Did the police attempt to take witness statements from the local bystanders?

3. Why are not the police prosecuting the other party for dangerous and drunk driving?

4. Did the OP have full insurance coverage on the hire car provided by the hire company?

5. What sort of relationship is it between the Ops wife, police and local syndicate?

This all appears shady which I’m sure is the reasons this matter has become very complicated.

Ok

1) the other driver was drunk and was breathalysed, but that is another issue i am told by the police and that does not mean he is wrong

2) I paid a Thai speaker to do so investigation of witnesses and i was told they were all to scared to talk even with money offered

3) They will prosecute the other chap but that is not my business i am told

4) Yes Full and the car is back working Insurance Thailand paid out for my hired car but not the drunk chaps who hit me therein lies the problem

5) None as far as I know quite certain of that as she is friend of the car hire cop

5)

Interesting that you have it on tape. On the tape our dear police officer also clearly says that it is not your fault but that you should pay...

Yes so to ensure he get his way he later gets a letter from the Hospital stating I am 147ml/dl over limit Drunk Driving so I go to my Doctor and he gives me one saying that i was not after i was admitted NO ALCOHOL sorry it arrived 2 months later

Here you can here the conversation between Khon Kaen cop Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn and myself.

He is telling me to plead guilty.

I just wanted out of there he Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn was suggesting to me to plead guilty was not recorded but prompted me to start recording was him telling me that i if I did not do as he said plead guilty i would have problems with the Thai police however at the end he tells me NOT to contact my UK insurance

http://www.syte-uk.com/kkpolice.mp3

^ It does sound like our Norv has gone and picked himself a bad 'un.

Cheer mate this really has been a haul

Ok I am worried about this because I would like to retire in Thailand.

What is the best way do I get a Lawyer and deal with it ??

Will my UK insurance pay for this the Thai insurance has fix my hire car that is back on the road now making money again still no Airbag though.

Will my UK insurance cover this legal cost will the Car Hire insurance cover this cost and who pays my trip back to LOS or LOSD Land of Smiles and Deception??

Yes I would like to sure the <deleted>(^ing critter that ran into me

Oh and where is the evidence my car is gone fixed no evidence why should that not have waited till the case was closed??

So many questions I cant be the only one that has had this shi_t it is everywhere you go in Isam fines for nothing doing no wrong they will get you.

I have hear that some farangs are darkening the car windows so Thais can't see who is driving as the smile on the face of Thai after he has rear end shunted you and sees a farang drivng, his lucky day most farangs just pay right or wrong to save the complication.

Any advice appreciated from anyone that has been in this position before

Having finished working the net in my apartment in Khon Kean Thailand around 1.30 am UK 7 the only time I can talk to my son after work, I set out in my hire car for some water, food and Phone card from the local 7/11.

I did not get very far before a car from the other side of the road swerved violently across onto my side and before I could even hit the brakes at 30 Klm/h I was hit on my side of the road and an angle of about 30deg.

The occupants got out drunk as lords and could not stand the locals all shouted Mow Drunk.

I having smashed my wind screen with my head and suffered lung and heart damage and was admitted to hospital. lucky to be alive the doctor said.

When the police interviewed me they admitted he was drunk all of the occupants were and had come from the local club, and had no insurance.

I had what is known as first insurance that would pay for both vehicles if I pleaded Guilty.

I have refused the advice of the police who have admitted he was to only drunk but another matter but also in the wrong.

But the way in Thailand is the one who has first insurance pays especially if he is a Falang, I have refused to admit to something I did not do.

They insisted that I make a statement and told me NOT to involve my UK insurance or it would be very bad for me, and that I would be coming back to Thailand for many years to fight the case, if I don’t admit Guilt.

What do I do admit guilt pay B400 and it is all finished in the Police Station or string this out for years to come……..help.

But I always thought the insurance you get with a hire car ( after paying the excess )

covered you so why do you need to involve your UK insurers ?

Yes well that is what i thought well first I had a hospital fee to pay not a lot only B7000 But now I have this cop in Khon Kaen trying to get me to plead guilty i did not so he is hanging a drink driving claim on me along with a test that never took place and 2 months old.

She he is harassing my former wife as to my where i am as I am summond to court to pay for the other vehicle my Hire car insurance paid for my car already that was taken and fixed while i was in Hospital, Oh the hire car company is run by a cop from the same department

^ It does sound like our Norv has gone and picked himself a bad 'un.

Cheer mate this really has been a haul

Any advice appreciated from anyone that has been in this position before

Having finished working the net in my apartment in Khon Kean Thailand around 1.30 am UK 7 the only time I can talk to my son after work, I set out in my hire car for some water, food and Phone card from the local 7/11.

I did not get very far before a car from the other side of the road swerved violently across onto my side and before I could even hit the brakes at 30 Klm/h I was hit on my side of the road and an angle of about 30deg.

The occupants got out drunk as lords and could not stand the locals all shouted Mow Drunk.

I having smashed my wind screen with my head and suffered lung and heart damage and was admitted to hospital. lucky to be alive the doctor said.

When the police interviewed me they admitted he was drunk all of the occupants were and had come from the local club, and had no insurance.

I had what is known as first insurance that would pay for both vehicles if I pleaded Guilty.

I have refused the advice of the police who have admitted he was to only drunk but another matter but also in the wrong.

But the way in Thailand is the one who has first insurance pays especially if he is a Falang, I have refused to admit to something I did not do.

They insisted that I make a statement and told me NOT to involve my UK insurance or it would be very bad for me, and that I would be coming back to Thailand for many years to fight the case, if I don't admit Guilt.

What do I do admit guilt pay B400 and it is all finished in the Police Station or string this out for years to come……..help.

Norv, your either the most naive or nicest guy on the planet - remember this from one of your first posts??? ???

Anyone have an idea as I am too mixed up for clear thought I have known her over a year and were fine together. I feel the best is to cancel the Settlement visa application and pack her off home although she says she will lose face and cannot go back to the same town.

If you can't see this as a hit on your life and well being, you are indeed blind - and will probably be screwed. You are going thru a divorce, you getting hurt in an accident keeps the money rolling in as you will stay in Thailand - did you know Divorces in LOS are one of the easiest things to do??? Do yourself a favor, get a divorce lawyer in Bangkok - tell your insurance company that covered the car 'in thailand to clear this sh!t up with the accident, then move to Pattaya where I am sure you wil live happily ever after until the next one comes along..................Oh BTW - I have lived in LOS (on and off) for almost 30 years.............get a new life

Cheers mate hmm well what to say I am now divorced as the marriage was in UK that has just been done 9/12/08 Yes you could say that two serious accidents both in Thailand none anywhere else in the world ?

Well if the cop has his way I will not be able to come back as he is fabricating a drink driving claim against me

Hi all,

Well things have moved on, why can’t things be simple in Thailand.

I left Thailand on the 9/10/08 on the 10/10/08 Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn from the Thai police rang my wife to ask her where I was she replied Thai he knew I was going back to the UK today as I had made a statement to that effect.

He told her that I had broken Thai law and that I should not have left Thailand.

He went on to say that I was twice the limit for alcohol.

My wife was in the Hospital when she got the call from Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn and went to see my Doctor who gave her a form stating that on the day of the accident I was not drunk at all and had no evidence of alcohol on me when I was admitted to the hospital on the 17/09/08.

He when on to say no police had been to see he regarding me, however later that day she was informed that the police had been into admin and requested my hospital files.

No test was taken from me at any time and I was sure not pissed or even had a beer that night.

Well the Lawyer in BKK received the document from some lab 11/11/08

The UK insurance paid me out the hospital fee of some 7000B.

And that was it till today I am told that because I would not plead guilty to the offence so the other party could get a new car from the insurance Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn has now taken me to court.

So Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn has stitched me up the lawyers in BKK seem to listen to Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn even though he would not contact them.

So I have two forms one says I am 114 m/dl alcohol over taken 10/10/08 and sent to the lawyers 11/11/08 and one from my Doctor that says I had not had a drink.

My question how did Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn Know that I was over the limit on the 10/10/08 when the test had not been analysed at that time from the date second why 2 months for the test.

OK I have him recorded telling me to plead guilty I did not so now I have a fabricated Drink Driving claim with an out of date test.

What is the best way to deal with this if I want to come back to LOS.

Pol. Sub. Lt. Wongsakorn is well out of line here and seems to work with impunity can you fight this or just let it go

Hmm what to do

They were still in business about 2 or 3 weeks ago when they cam to collect a mates broken down bike for the upmteenth time..

Of course they didnt have any parts to repair it so hes not got it back yet while he waits weeks for them to make it from bangkok..

Really why would anyone put themselves through it for a JRD ??

Doing some investigation, both the showroom and service department in Phuket HAVE GONE and thelephones disconnected in Sonkla and Bangkok. Looks like your mate may have lost his bike. I sent an e-mail to the office in Had Yai which was deleted without being read, so I've now repeated it to every office throught Asia.

Strange as I spoke to him yesterday and he had talked to them only a day or two before.

The JRD Dealer is on Pattaya 3rd Rd is still there. I was there today.... (yes i have one lol)

In Phuket ?

JRD Have gone from Khon Kaen all but for a small Bike repair shop setup in Khon Kaen and they get me parts in two weeks without problem from Hat Yai. I have a 150 most parts have been replaced or changed from other makes of Bikes so I can now happily get 100 mph and do 500klm a day for how long i dont know. I think JRD are contracting on the Bike side a bit they seem to do a lot of other things apart from Bikes if you trace the jrd.com.my URL mainly Alloy wheels can anyone else throw light on the bike manufacturing side of things.

Yes I have paid the excess however here is the strange point.

My wife for some reason told me to say if asked that the car belongs to her, now they have not asked me but I am sure from my interpreters unease with her dominance of the situation that she has without doubt said the car was hers and that I was driving it. It was a hire car from the hire company run by a policeman.

There is no doubt as to who the guilty party is and the police have admitted this (I recorded him saying this on my phone during the interview)

I have contacted my UK lawyers ( Travel Insurance as I was in Hospital some time and the have said they have and office of Lawyers in BKK Euro assist. They have to pay for the hospital and I have had to overstay, as I can’t fly due to the damage to my Lungs and water on my heart.

If there is any chance of suing the other part I will go ahead with that as he has not only ruined my holiday but also damaged my health irreversibly.

Thanks again all for the support and I hope this helps some others and I do feel it is time that the Falangs stood up to this discrimination by the Thais and not let then get away with it.

Too many times I hear “oh Just walk away from it” and they get away with murder literally.

Thanks again

Cheers for the advice reassuring if nothing else.

Paying 400 B seems the easy way out but I have been informed that they make money out of this 1st Insurance and a lot less hassle, this came from a Thai Cop.

My wife has police pull but they seem to love a Falang in distress.

I have contacted my insurance in UK and they in turn have said they would contact their lawyers in BKK to deal with the matter, however this was some days ago and I have heard nothing as yet so a call to them may be a good idea, albeit that the Local police have warned me not to do this.

So basically I have my UK insurance cover and the 1 st insurance cover of the car hire company.

The car hire company are all cops and my wife has told me to tell them is was her car if I am asked (I have not) what she has said I do not know but she is thick in with the police and local syndicate.

What makes it worse is that we are in the process of divorce so I don’t think she has my interest at heart.

Thanks again I will call UK again tomorrow, but I can’t bring myself to admit to Guilt for some idiots bad driving proven drunk driving who could have killed me and then give him a new car.

Any advice appreciated from anyone that has been in this position before

Having finished working the net in my apartment in Khon Kean Thailand around 1.30 am UK 7 the only time I can talk to my son after work, I set out in my hire car for some water, food and Phone card from the local 7/11.

I did not get very far before a car from the other side of the road swerved violently across onto my side and before I could even hit the brakes at 30 Klm/h I was hit on my side of the road and an angle of about 30deg.

The occupants got out drunk as lords and could not stand the locals all shouted Mow Drunk.

I having smashed my wind screen with my head and suffered lung and heart damage and was admitted to hospital. lucky to be alive the doctor said.

When the police interviewed me they admitted he was drunk all of the occupants were and had come from the local club, and had no insurance.

I had what is known as first insurance that would pay for both vehicles if I pleaded Guilty.

I have refused the advice of the police who have admitted he was to only drunk but another matter but also in the wrong.

But the way in Thailand is the one who has first insurance pays especially if he is a Falang, I have refused to admit to something I did not do.

They insisted that I make a statement and told me NOT to involve my UK insurance or it would be very bad for me, and that I would be coming back to Thailand for many years to fight the case, if I don’t admit Guilt.

What do I do admit guilt pay B400 and it is all finished in the Police Station or string this out for years to come……..help.

As PT Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute"

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I plan to go to the Embassy before i go back to uk 25 March.

what days are they closed this week for easter

Cheers

After a few months of marriage 9 in all i had to cancel my wifes visa and send her home.

You mean you sent her back to Thailand, her 'home' since she is legally married to you is with you.

Once again we are reminded.... A Thai wife is not just for Christmas.

For these reasons

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/lofiversion/...hp/t120949.html

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=174608

No sex

Recruiting men for womwn married or not in thailand for money

Working for the Thai mafia

Never home but down the pub getting names and addresses without her ring on

What i want to know is can she come back in to the Uk with another sponsor or with the same Visa she has a string of men now and lives with one in Norway and no I did not send her back but brought her back and tried my best to repair the marriage but she was contacting men in Oz and in UK for the richest