mohinga

You're right. Governments change, regulations change, and the ways the regs are enforced change. I just wanted to get a bit of an idea of how things stand now. If I make the move I'll be sure to consult a Thai tax accountant beforehand. Anyway, I'm pleased to know that there is, for now, a way to bring in large sums tax free when not yet a tax resident.

Agree about the zero tax thing. I have a couple of years left on a visa in a neighbouring country... no capital gains tax. If they don't renew the visa I'd have to shift to Thailand; where there is CGT. And it wouldn't work out too well for me since they don't value the cost of the assets at the date of arrival in Thailand. Instead, unless one can jump through a lot of hoops, the acquired cost is zero. So CGT is due on the whole amount. I'm holding Bitcoin, which could appreciate in the next couple of years; so I would sell it tax free, and transfer the funds to Thailand. Enough to live on for a few years. I'm long in the tooth; so I'm not worried about not earning interest.

Been out of LOS for a many years; so only know about the latest rule changes from internet chatter. I might have to leave my current country of residence in a couple of years; and would like have the option of getting a Thai retirement visa. I know things can change a lot in a couple of years; but I still have to make tentative plans. If I were to go someplace in Thailand, say for instance Surat Thani, and start the application process for a pension visa, might I be able to get a bank account? I'm unclear how the tax situation stands with respect to funds transferred into Thailand. If I transfer funds into a Thai bank account for the purpose of getting a retirement visa (still 800k?) then are those funds taxed as income? If so, then could that be avoided by doing the visa application and funds transfer in the second half of a calendar year? e.g. if funds transferred in late this year; but I do not spend 180 days in the Kingdom this year, and only become a tax resident next year. Lots of "ifs" I know; and I would definitely consult a tax accountant before making a move; but maybe someone has some insights to share? Also if anyone knows of a good agent in Surat Thani?

So it seems that it's not really a capital gain but rather a tax on the final sale price. How many would be able to verify purchase price if bought in another country and another currency. The paperwork would be daunting. I'm in Malaysia where, so far, there is no CGT. I could sell near the next cycle high (wishful thinking) and buy it back to establish a new, higher, purchase price. But that would likely lose me at least 5% of my holdings. Malaysian exchanges have very low liquidity, and big spreads. Another possibility is I could re-establish residency in my home country at/near the next ATH, and then only have to pay CGT on any further price rises. Neither of these two options appeal to me. So I'll just bide my time hoping that there will be more options appearing over the next few years. I can't see Thailand embracing the Bitcoin ethos; but maybe there will be more flexibility regarding stablecoins.

I have a vague idea of the tax situation for CGT re: crypto; but it's confusing. The %15 tax on gains seems acceptable; but, from what I can see, it seems that is based on the sale price. One can sell at a loss; so what then? Does the exchange still withhold %15. It would seem fairer to calculate the CG based on the actual gain. If that were to be the case, then how would the cost base be assessed? If I were to return to my home country and re-establish residency for tax purposes, then the cost base of my holdings would be assessed at the price on the day of return to my country. i.e. "deemed acquired". But how does it work in Thailand? If, for example, I have some BTC that I bought a long time ago when not a resident of Thailand, would it be assessed as bought then? If so how would I provide proof of purchase price? Or is the purchase price somehow calculated upon the date of becoming a resident here?

Born and raised in Montreal. Spent the '50's, 60's and 70's there, after which wandered elsewhere. Sometime in the '90's (maybe) started hearing of a famous French Canadian dish... poutine. Never saw it or heard of it when living in Montreal; a city known for its cuisine.. so many good things to eat... Ben's smoked meat, St. Hubert BBQ, and great pizza from Mob owned joints. Guess I'll go to my grave never having know the delight of eating poutine or pizza cake.

So I gather that there is no provision for the purchase price to be deemed the price on the asset at the time of becoming a resident of Thailand for tax purposes. I am not a resident for tax purposes in my country of origen. I am on the Malaysian MM2H programme, and am looking for alternatives as the rules are in flux here. Malaysia does not tax offshore income (yet), and pension money I remit to here is taxed at source in my "home" country (which has a tax treaty with Malaysia). Most importantly, Malaysia does not (yet) tax capital gains. I could theoretically sell everything while here in Malaysia, and buy it back to establish a new "purchase price". But that is messy. I have no wish to return to my home country; and see no reason to pay tax there if I don't have to. I guess I'll just wait and see how the next few years work out with the MM2H programme. One thing I'm sure of is that all governments will be trying to squeeze as much tax out of the plebs as possible.

I'm not asking about how to become a resident for tax purposes in Thailand. I think that is easily done. I understsand that, under the terms of certain visas (retirement?), one can choose to be taxed in ones' own country, or in Thailand. I think I read that there are some financial benefits to choosing Thailand... e.g. bank accounts having more benefits. My country of origen is not a concern; since it is not the U.S., but rather a country that taxes base upon residence... not citizenship. I do know that if I were to return to my country, and re-establish residence for tax purposes there, my holdings would be deemed "acquired" on the date of my return... not on the actual date of purchase. So I am trying to find out if Thailand has a similar standard for valueing assets liable eligible for capital gains tax.

Maybe someone here knows from personal experience. But not likely... in which case maybe someone could recommend a Thai tax service that I might contact. My question is this: if I were to establish residency in Thailand, and choose the option of being taxed as a resident, how would capital gains on existing assets be calculated? Specifically, if I had assets like precious metals on account with service, or bitcoin, and I sold them at some point, would the capital gain be calculated from the original purchase price (i.e. long before becoming a resident of Thailand), or would the price of acquisition be deemed to be the price of the asset on the date of my becoming a resident?