nyuajsiab

June 8, 2007

Oh my god.
When do these people realize that the war is over? I cannot stand those insurgencies - nobody gains, and it makes life or normal people intolerable. Expect a new round of persecution of Hmong in Laos.

Sure. We should have said the same in 1940 : "the war is over. So why bother ?"

It's not an insurgency. It's simply "resistance" against a gvt of killers, mafioso style with a touch of stalinism, who continue to hunt down Hmong people, even now.

However, I agree with you, the war is over, indeed. The US have had already betrayed and abandoned Hmong and freedom fighthers (useless tools, and rather embarassing, after the pull back from Vietnam in 70's).

So, it's just another betrayal.

There will be probably other.

It's a shame.

Hardly a word of truth in here.

While it's true that Lao Hmong continue to be persecuted in Laos. it has nothing to do with America or the war. They are persecuted because of their birth rate in comparison to the Lao people and many refuse to "come in" to become Village people" and become "Lao" as the Lao PDR would wish. The operations of would be insurgency groups are separate from this, as their aim is to seek economic influence in Lao through gaining their own autonomous state. Their aims put the lives of remaining Lao mong further at risk. America has taken in The Lao Hming of the Vietnam War period and their offspring and their offsprings offspring. If they didn't take more it's because the IOM and UNHCR didn't see fit to register more as legitimate refugees.

I will say this however. It is true the US has betrayed and abandoned the Vietnamese Montagnard people, who were their allies during the war. This betrayal can be put down to the efforts of one man, Senator John Kerry, who blocked proposals which were unanimously supported in the US Congress, which would have aided them. It's mystery to me why he did this, but there was internet talk that his family made a lot of money in Vietnamese commercial ventures. You can Google it if you wish to know more.

For those who do not understand how the Hmong people are treated in Laos, I recommend you review these videos, which will open your eyes to the truth than from what you have read or what you assume to believe. These are graphic videos that support why General Vang Pao had to take things into his hands. All I support is that the Hmong people need to be acknowledged for their sacrifices and contribution to the US, and for the US and the UN to step in to help the Hmong people of Laos escape "death" (men's inhumanity to men). This is inhumane treatment. Please uncover the veil that has shrouded your view of the truth. The truth will set us free!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHerGolvR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtW08-HrGPI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJnUaH6_-cc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS2JOGTd2OU

We can't view You Tube here in Thailand. Though I'n sure you have presented grahic ebidence of the Lao Hmongs ongoing sufferin at the hands of the Lao PDR government, and let's be honest, their Vietnamese masters.

That many of us here regret this most recent escapade by the Lao Hmong hierarchy, it does not mean we do not feel sympathy for their plight and agree they are ruthlessly persecuted by the Vietnamese influenced Lao govt. That said, the Lao Hmong will never ever be allowed to have an autonomus region of their own in ant country. Their leadership needs to formulate a strategy to come to terms with that concept and whatever host government is in power, whether it be in Lao or Thailand. Lao Hmong seem to be one of the least capable races ever to assimilate with other peoples. If they can't overcome that shortcoming they will become just a tragic historical footnote of vanished tribes.

The reason they can't assimilate is because they are being killed. If they wanted to come out of the jungle and live in peace, they cannot. These Laotion groups want to wipe them out. Also, I don't know what you mean by Hmong people not being able to assimilate. Hmong people can adapt and assimilate into a new culture. It has almost been 30 years and the Hmong people have assimilated very well into the US culture. Today, we have Hmong teachers, doctors, professors, senators, school superintendents, police officers, soldiers, etc., and that is only the 1st and 2nd generation of Hmong in the US. Not many cultures can change and adapt so quickly in such a short amount of time. We don't fear for our lives so we are able to have a chance. In Laos, for the jungle Hmong, they don't have this chance for freedom to learn and to grow. They have no choice in the matter. Thats why most of them try to escape Laos and head on to Thailand to seek refuge. Since you have no access to Youtube, here is another website belonging to an American who documented the Hmong genocide in Laos. Hopefully, you have access to this information. She obtained the real truth that everyone tries to ignore.

http://www.rebeccasommer.org/documentaries/Hmong/index.php

June 7, 2007

Oh my god.
When do these people realize that the war is over? I cannot stand those insurgencies - nobody gains, and it makes life or normal people intolerable. Expect a new round of persecution of Hmong in Laos.

Sure. We should have said the same in 1940 : "the war is over. So why bother ?"

It's not an insurgency. It's simply "resistance" against a gvt of killers, mafioso style with a touch of stalinism, who continue to hunt down Hmong people, even now.

However, I agree with you, the war is over, indeed. The US have had already betrayed and abandoned Hmong and freedom fighthers (useless tools, and rather embarassing, after the pull back from Vietnam in 70's).

So, it's just another betrayal.

There will be probably other.

It's a shame.

Hardly a word of truth in here.

While it's true that Lao Hmong continue to be persecuted in Laos. it has nothing to do with America or the war. They are persecuted because of their birth rate in comparison to the Lao people and many refuse to "come in" to become Village people" and become "Lao" as the Lao PDR would wish. The operations of would be insurgency groups are separate from this, as their aim is to seek economic influence in Lao through gaining their own autonomous state. Their aims put the lives of remaining Lao mong further at risk. America has taken in The Lao Hming of the Vietnam War period and their offspring and their offsprings offspring. If they didn't take more it's because the IOM and UNHCR didn't see fit to register more as legitimate refugees.

I will say this however. It is true the US has betrayed and abandoned the Vietnamese Montagnard people, who were their allies during the war. This betrayal can be put down to the efforts of one man, Senator John Kerry, who blocked proposals which were unanimously supported in the US Congress, which would have aided them. It's mystery to me why he did this, but there was internet talk that his family made a lot of money in Vietnamese commercial ventures. You can Google it if you wish to know more.

For those who do not understand how the Hmong people are treated in Laos, I recommend you review these videos, which will open your eyes to the truth than from what you have read or what you assume to believe. These are graphic videos that support why General Vang Pao had to take things into his hands. All I support is that the Hmong people need to be acknowledged for their sacrifices and contribution to the US, and for the US and the UN to step in to help the Hmong people of Laos escape "death" (men's inhumanity to men). This is inhumane treatment. Please uncover the veil that has shrouded your view of the truth. The truth will set us free!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHerGolvR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtW08-HrGPI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJnUaH6_-cc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS2JOGTd2OU