StinkyMudFish

Dear All

My two son's live in UK with my Thai wife and I. They have both Thai and British passports and were born in UK. I have heard rumours about drafting and national service for Thai children when they reach late teens but how does that affect children living overseas. Will my boys receive a notice to be drafted into the army at some point in their lives or do they have exemption as nationals living overseas. Where can I find out information on this and/or has anyone else had experince of the same with their own children of dual nationality.

Thanks

I thought that also but this was not a conversation held in a bar and with someone who lives over in Thailand married to a Thai himself for many years. He apeared sincere enough so I thought best to check it out to see what the laws are locally on this matter.

Hi All

My wife and I have just returned from Thailand yesterday and wanted someone to clear up an issue for us at present. While on holiday an american we met mentioned that Thai's loose their right to own land when resident overseas and take up dual nationality. Is that correct because if so we may have an issue with my wife's land as she purchased it 5-6 years ago and has since gained citizenship in UK and holds both Thai and British passports. The local Thai Land office only told that I need sign a form to say all funds used for land purchase were my wife's and not mine and they were aware my wife lived in UK and did not mention any such restrictions if away from Thailand for any given period. This is the first time I have heard of this and feel it to be incorrect but wanted to check with people here on the group to see if true or not...

Thanks for any help and input

SMF

Hey Wrongway

please PM me also his contact details for future reference as I too would be looking for a good Solicitor in the area. Thanks.

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?fil...&sec=sports

SEA Games open with glittering show of light, music and dance

THE 24th South-east Asian Games was officially declared opened at the His Majesty the King's 80th Birthday Anniversary Stadium in Korat last night in a ceremony that was amazing in more ways than one.

In a glittering festival of light, music and dance, the opening ceremony was divided into eight segments, each with its own 'Amazing' theme.

Let there be light: Thai athlete Udomporn Polsak was given the honour to light up the SEA Games cauldron during the opening ceremony yesterday.Unlike in the previous days, security was tighter around the vicinity of the main stadium yesterday as a precaution following Tuesday's bombing incident in Southern Thailand.

But that did not stop Thais clad in mostly pink and yellow to pack the newly-built 22,000 capacity stadium to the brim several hours before the show began at 5.30pm (6.30pm Malaysian time).

The two colours symbolise loyalty and respect to King Bhumibol Adulyadej, who celebrated his 80th birthday on Wednesday.

Fittingly, the first segment of the opening ceremony was entitled “The Amazing Great King”, a 10-minute tribute to the longest reigning monarch in the world.

It was followed by performances celebrating “The Amazing E-Saan Wonder” and “The Amazing Glorious City”, highlighting the history and culture of the Isaan (north-east) region and its main city, Korat.

The performances were accompanied by a dazzling laser display and incorporated replicas of colourful ancient temples and gigantic dragon boats.

Glittering show: Dancers performing a cultural dance during the opening ceremony at the 24th Korat SEA Games yesterday.The highlight of the evening was the fourth segment – “The Amazing Sport Ceremony”.

It began with the march past of the 11 contingents - Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Timor Leste, Vietnam and Thailand.

Pole vaulter Roslinda Samsu, the 2006 Doha Asian Games silver medallist, led the Malaysian contingent, who were resplendent in their orange-coloured Malaysian Tiger tops and black slacks.

After the more than 7,000 athletes and officials had taken their places on the field, Thai Sports Minister Suvit Yodmani, the Games organising chairman, delivered his speech.

The Games was then officially opened by the Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn. It was followed by the raising of the Games flag and the oath-taking ceremony.

Thai female weightlifter Udomporn Polsak, gold medallist at the Athens Olympics, was given the honour to light the Games cauldron in the following “The Amazing Royal Flame” segment.

As soon as the Korat native lit the cauldron, balls of fires rocketed skywards from various points around the stadium, and were accompanied by a dazzling display of fireworks that lit up the Korat skyline.

More than 8,000 students from 35 learning institutions then performed in the beautifully choreographed song and dance sequences for “The Amazing Spirit”, “The Amazing Friendship” and “The Amazing Celebrations” segments.

The segments were held in accordance with the Games' tagline of 'Spirit, Friendship and Celebrations', before the ceremony was brought to an end.

It is the sixth time that Thailand are hosting the Games. A total of 475 gold medals in 43 sports are on offer.

Besides Korat, competition will also be staged in Bangkok and Pattaya until Dec 15.

So far, 43 gold medals have already been distributed ahead of the opening ceremony.

Malaysia, who now have a haul of 2-3-6 from shooting and table tennis, are eyeing a 64-gold haul from involvement in 40 of the 43 sports in the programme.

If the target is met, it would be the national contingent's best achievement outside Malaysia in the biennial event. Malaysia's best was a 61-49-65 haul in Manila 2005.

There are plenty of english speaking countries habouring terrorists that will have no problems crossing borders then to get here to blow up a tube station and or mass inflow of EU nationals taking our jobs. I didn't get the impression our economy was under threat from the inflow of thai spouses into UK. The only danger they pose to us is rising mudfish imports and garlic breath....not exactly a threat to national security...

I believe that this has tell tell signs of mac's wife having a thai man somwewhere waiting for the farang to be long gone. If he were to suspect adultery and could prove that a third parties involvemnet and adultery caused a marriage breakdown then it would run much more in his favour through solicitors and/or court if it got that far.

Ubon Ratchathani markets have a 3 different stalls/vendors offering the solid dark wooden types pictured above. Take a drive to Ubon market next to BigC on a saturday when all vendors are out that day and you will get what you want.

the thai markets usually have a lot around of the solid dark wood type varnished sala's for sale . take a drive around it will not be long before you spot one.

there is also plenty of houses in ubon listed on there also....

Hi Patriot

I know from your PM you are not really looking for land at the moment but the following came up when I did a search for you today. If you were to be interested in this the bank would most certainly let it go for less than their asking price as a repo:

http://www.krungsriproperty.com/showsmalla...setcode=AKY0347

hope this is useful.

Not wishing to offend anyone just wanted to bring a smile. It made me laugh yesterday when someone text through to my mobile phone.

ok joke to lighten the mood:

"I've got a 2005 complete set of Encyclopedia Britanica for sale in perfect condition, on offer for £250. Reason for sale....just got married wife knows f'kin everything!"

Smile and move on lads it happens to the best and the worst of us. When its over its over...

Hi

Not a long shot. I've been there twice myself to visit extended family (wife's cousin) who live in one of the villages there. We travelled by car from Ubon. What type of house are you looking for and what budget do you have?

Wake Up Call !!! Read the following if you doubt what a Thai wife and greedy family can do to us farangs for money........

Brit Barbecued by Thai Wife

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Brit killed and barbecued after split from Thai bride

By TOM KELLY & ANDREW DRUMMOND,

Daily Mail (UK) 16:24pm 1st August 2006

A former public schoolboy was barbecued by his Thai wife after divorcing her when she ran up massive gambling debts, a court has heard.

Toby Charnaud, 41, was clubbed to death with an iron bar and wooden staves by relatives of his ex-wife, Pannada Laoruang.

She then helped them burn his body on a charcoal fire, before chopping it up and scattering the charred remains around Kaeng Krajan National Park on the Thai-Burma border.

Yesterday a Thai court heard how Mr Charnaud, who was educated at Marlborough College, sold his farm near Chippenham, in Wiltshire, after meeting 35-year-old Laoruang in a Bangkok bar while on holiday.

After marrying, they lived with his parents in England before settling in the resort of Hua Hin, where he bought two bars and became a popular figure in the local golf club.

They had a baby but their relationship collapsed after Laoruang accumulated debts of £50,000 in high stakes card games.

Mr Charnaud divorced his wife, giving her a £11,000 settlement, plus another £6,100 to help pay off her debts.

But when he visited her home after she called him to see their five-year-old son, Daniel, last March, three men attempted to shoot him with a hunting musket. When the weapon backfired, they beat him to death.

Miss Laoruang later reported her husband missing to police, but in court yesterday she admitted it had been a lie, and she had in fact returned home from the market to find his body.

The murder was only discovered when Mr Charnaud's family in Britain became suspicious about his sudden disappearance and hired a local private detective to investigate.

After mobile phone records showed he had been at his ex-wife's house on the day he vanished, police raided the home where two of the defendants confessed and led police to the body parts.

The Charnaud's family lawyer, Boonchu Yensabai, who is jointly prosecuting the defendants, told Petchaburi Provincial Court: 'The only motive can be that Pannada expected to inherit everything through their son.'

In a letter to the court, Mr Charnaud's 70-year-old mother, Sarah, said: 'We welcomed Toby's ex-wife into our home and family until they moved to Thailand. To repay us by murdering my son is beyond my comprehension.

'One of the worst horrors of his death is the fact that the first attempt to kill him failed and he would have been aware of his murderers making their fatal attack. His fear and concern for his son would have been overwhelming.

'Toby was a wonderful father to his son and it is so unfair that a small boy has been deprived of a great father and a father has been deprived of seeing his son grow up.'

Bizarrely, Mr Charnaud appeared to predict his own death in a short story which won first prize in a competition run by a Bangkok magazine shortly before he died.

It told how a British man's life collapses after he falls in love with a Thai woman.

She stays out all night and builds up gambling debts, and he is eventually murdered by his best Thai friend, whm he does not know is one of his wife's lovers.

Mr Charnaud's sister, Hannah Allen, said: 'The story is eerie. I am sure he had his suspicions.

'It is difficult to come to terms with the fact that this woman was behind the murder of the father of her child.'

Pannada Laoruang denies premeditated murder.

Boontin Puipong, 31, Sattri Sripatum, 28, Nipit Satabut, have admitted murder, but say they were provoked because Mr Charnaud interrupted them while they were drinking whisky.

All four also face charges of possessing a gun in a public place, deceiving police, and concealing the body.

The case was adjourned until next month.

Wait a minute am i missing something here. The minute a KNIFE was shown to your daughter you should have packed your bags, your daughter's aswell and left. Now you are showing weakness by staying. This was a threat to your daughters life MAN the only question now is why are you STILL hanging around. ....GO NOW and get yourself and more importantly YOUR DAUGHTER BACK INTO A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. You do not want or need to be around a wife that is unstable mentally or otherwise. You are an ex-policeman right? If you were back in UK and someone would have shown a little girl a knife in a threatening manner that child would have been removed immediately and placed in safe care of social services. What are you waiting for ...something bad to happen and a life of regret afterwards. Time for a wake up call mate!! This is not a case of sitting around the house or upstairs thinking "what do I do" you should know what to do for that childs safety.

i agree with the last few posts in as much that your daughters life will be much better all round now and in future if she stayed with you. schools, care and nannies can all be found but if left to your wife and her family then she will probably get little or no education in village life. if you don't want to look back with regrets take your daughter and let her have the best of future which would only be possible with you i feel as your standards are obiously much higher.

Hi Mac

From what you have posted and input from my wife who has read the thread also we believe you could be in a risky position at present. Wife's state of mind, threats and actions over recent days suggest you should cut your losses and get out until your are at safe distance. If this is driven by usual Thai financial motivation for house and land when your are out the way then no one in your immediate household/family can be trusted right now. They may have a plan whether you know it or not. So take the advice of myself and others on here to leave now and handle matters at a safe distance where less confusion surrrounds you. If wife & family object to you fighting for custody of child and/or claim over land & house then Thais can resort to some petty cruel tactics to get what they want if you cause them too much trouble or they feel you are about to embark on such a fight. Do it all at safe distance, under sound legal advice and keep friends close by all the time now until resolved. Don't argue with Thai people it is not like back here in UK where the worst that can happen is a few harsh words. Thais lose face over money or if greed sets in you are better to seek help from head of the village, police, solicitor/s, friends and make sure you keep every one as you are doing now in the loop so if anything happens to you or your daughter there is no doubt or question as to where the actions came from.

Keep your own council, Keep calm and don't enter in arguments at this time.............

Hi Mac

I am sorry to hear your news but like many others on here offer support. In most cases like this its the nice guy that gets hurt. People don't change so quick without a reason. have you or your wife been playing away so to speak which can strain a relationship. If there were to be a Thai guy involved then watch your back at the moment and keep in the company of friends to give good advice and make sure you are not alone. It may sound a little paranoid but you hear so many stories about thai guys bumping off farangs to get their dirty hands on the wife's money that you should be aware of family around this time if they do not have your best interests at heart any longer. If its the begining of the end then take your daughter and cut your loses. The land will never be yours and at best you could argue for an eternity over the house that's sitting on it. Take your car and daughter and leave the family to support themselves. Care only for the best and most important people in your life right now ie... you and your daughter. You have a pension still so all is not lost. Get back on your feet let your head settle and things will no doubt change for the better. At the moment when you stay around your wife you will be full of nothing but confusion so best to get out now and clear your thoughts. No guilt, No blame just go you did your best and it did not work out. They are not all the same and the next will be much nicer. Just spend longer finding out before jumping in with both feet. Fine someone who fallls in love with your daughter and you then you are on the right road.

I'm sure all will be better soon for you and happier times are ahead for your daughter and you ...let the other thais have regrets about their loss.

is it possible to get my email address off the search listings on google as dekseek and other thai marketing sites have listed my address?

what happens if i'v got a long standing hotmail address which i've had for along time and want to continue using it but minus the spam is that possible.

thanks for the constructive comments which are useful. has anyone had any luck removing themselves from these mailing lists and will reporting spam take you off their listings/marketing sites?

Hi All

Someone somewhere has added my hotmail address to Truehits.net, Dekseed.com, Dailythailand.com etc... marketing websites which are spamming my address and listing my address also on google searches. Has anyone had similar problems and how do you go about removing your address from these sites to stop the listing and spamming. As they are all thai related language sites i'm assuming my address has got on there from a thai source locally. Thanks for any help.

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