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The Pub on Huaykaew Rd opposite Maya mall.

Tops Market at Kad Suan Kaew has Saxa brand salt -- red label is not iodized, green is iodized.

Two years ago I bought one at Central in Kad Suan Kaew. The brand was Fagor. It has worked fine.

It is neither seedy or squalid. But it is Asian. Thankfully.

There is somethng for everyone. The Nimmenhamen part of Chiang Mai is probably more suitable to your taste. I over look the few low class joints and the occasional boor. I can find them in every town.

This is more like what I see along Loy Kroh... just friendly people enjoying themselves. In the past 8 years I've never had a bad experience there despite spending most evenings in that part of town.

I'll admit the street massage parlours on Loy Kroh leave a lot to be desired, but those gals have not much else to offer. If you get a reasonable massage at not too high a price then what else do you want.

In the day time it doesn't look any dirtier than any other part of Chiang Mai. Maybe the dirt is in the mind of the OP.

Just edited to note that not all women working on Loy Kroh bars are for rent on a P4P basis. In fact many are married or have boy friends.

I'm disgusted at the seediness and the squalor. Good pics by the way.

I recently used Legal & Business Associates on the third floor of Hillside Condotel 4, Huay Kaew Road to notarize a Power of Attorney for the U.S. This required two witnesses which I provided. The charge was 500 TB and the service was good. It is on the third floor at the rear of the building.

50/86-87 Hillside Plaza and Condotel 4

Huay Kaew Road,

tel +66 53 210527

email [email protected]

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Well said, Greenside.

i think the (Thai?) bar owner was arrested too, same as at Guitarman

Well, he's a musician, only a bar owner incidentally and Thai into the bargain so I imagine he'll be putting up a spirited defence in favour of the freedom to play music. Before anyone suggests it, I strongly doubt that a change in Tea Money arrangements has any part to play in this (as was mooted in the Guitarman case) since the NGJC always packs up on the dot of midnight in my experience and is run by locals who have no need to ingratiate themselves with the authorities. The majority of musicians are Thai and in the tradition of minority music venues all over the world, they welcome visiting players without regard to race, gender or, on occasion, talent. The audience includes Thais, expats and visitors of all ages brought together by a shared passion for the music.

The debate about the legality has been done to death in the last thread on this subject and by now we all know it's illegal blah blah, but this apparent determination to withdraw the tolerance previously extended to the music scene is plain dumb as well as having ramifications beyond the immediate.

Firstly, this attitude threatens Chiang Mai's status as a centre for creative people and the arts. OK, it's not New York, Paris or London but I'd venture to say that our city is possibly the best served in SE Asia (outside of Bangkok and who wants to live there?) as far as the arts and cultural events are concerned. The arts, and particularly the music scene, was definitely one of the main reasons I chose to live here and I don't think I'm a lone voice in that. Stifle this freedom and everyone, audience and artists alike are the poorer, and I don't mean financially. Musicians need to experience each other's talents close up to allow styles to develop and closed minds will produce just the kind of results they deserve. The tourist authority spends millions of baht on promotion but seems to be miserably complacent about highlighting the value of these kind of activities as contributing to a visit to Chiang Mai.

Secondly, musicians have to make music. It's in their blood and, like most artistic endeavours, it's the sharing that gives the real satisfaction and seldom, if ever, simply a money thing. Musicians are unlucky in that their craft is more often than not performed in places that are readily accessible to the public and where food and drink are available for those watching, leaving them open to the accusation that they are there to provide customers for a commercial enterprise. Would people go to see, say a jazz gig, if there was nothing there to eat or drink? Probably not many, so you could have grounds to say that they are not the primary attraction although it would be a tough case to argue especially in the face of Asian Logic. Would the bar still have customers if it didn't give space to the band? Lots do.

Thirdly, where is this going to stop? Writers live to write. Photographers are compelled to capture images. Film and video makers take copious amounts of material and make records of festivals, hilltribes and who knows what. Tell an artist they can't show anyone their work.

Are these things so different from what has got the musicians into trouble? I don't think so.

Writers distribute their work as Blogs, many on free platforms like Wordpress whose owners make serious amounts of money from the ads that run alongside the efforts of those simply wanting an audience for their efforts. You Tube, Flickr, Photobucket, Vimeo and a hundred thousand other sites including Thai Visa make their income by providing a platform where the talents of ordinary people can be aired and selling something (in most cases advertising) on the back of it. In fact it's the most widely used online business model and serves the interests of content providers, the audience and the business owners alike.

Are we now heading toward a time when we have to beware of posting our pictures, writing our blogs or even contributing to a thread like this? Whenever a newbie posts a question about working in Thailand, about 10 Old Hands are guaranteed to leap into the thread and (occasionally rather smugly, I sometimes think) point out that volunteering and working online even if unrewarded both require a work permit which in practical terms makes either occupation untenable. I'm willing to bet that those very same people are supporting one or more of the businesses above by virtue of their talents and, if the rules really apply, should be getting out the WP application forms themselves.

Other than being a much higher profile I don't think there is a fundamental difference and, being the case, we should all view these developments in a serious light. Application of these regulations to the letter of the law could easily turn what many of us regard as home into a much poorer and less attractive place to live.

Khun Por (the founder) at the North Gate Jazz Co-Op in happier times.

Yes, they are sold at Red Lion and also at Amazin' Sandwich on Huaykaew Rd next to the Soho Bar and across the street from the Chiang Mai Orchid.

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They have them for sale (100%) in The Red Lion near Burger King on the night bazzar and they used to be on sale in UN Irish Pub.

The Wild Boar on Tapae (spelling ?) Soi 1 specializes in all International Sports and has a few different feeds.

Don't remember the size of the screens, but think not less that 40 inches

The Rock and Roll music is also pretty good there.

The owner tries to accomodate requests within reason. and staff are aware of this.

Near Ta Pia Gate near the Top North Hotel.

Small beer bar and some food, but doubtful of a Sunday Roast.

Also could try Mulligan's Irish Pub in the Walking Street night market area.

The Pub on Huay Kaew Rd just west of Nimmanhaeman has a Sunday Roast and is likely to show the F1 on a decent-sized screen.

I have used the Kitcha Clinic near Chiang Mai gate, not extensively but my experience with quality and price was good.

Nicely done. I shall have to take the trip myself soon.

I have not rented a car myself, but contemplated it at one time and heard that Scorpion on Moon Muang, north of Tha Pae gate, was good and about the cheapest.

Can someone please explain to me why unions are supporting the PAD action? I would think that the principals of PAD would be antithetical to the unions' interest.