tokyosheep

at sonkran time I carry a can of police style mace,only once person and his friends ( farangs I might add, thai,s seem to know a little bit better the ground rules) has ever dared to throw water on me when I politley asked them not to, I maced them , then put them and they,re friends all in hospidal.

That happened only once & it was the only sonkran I enjoyed!.The talcum thing is just a joke- no suprise, remember where we are...

a good intented cermoney totoally taken advantage of by people looking for an exuse.

Most thais adhere to the proper way of doing things, farnags in pattaya for example go mad, like the guys I maced, and take advatnage of it.

Avoid going to certain places, but if you do get it when you,ve politely asked them not, give a little love back!

mace can bought on sukumvit

Already, we've determined that an execution took place. I'd guess some beligerent tourists insulted the wrong Thai guy. He may or may not have been a cop, doesn't much matter now does it. Lesson learned: drink lots of water, walk slowly and respect the local population. Funny, works just about everywhere.

can I say this?, I,am half and half ...<deleted> to any idea of kowtowing, showing respect for the culture ( which is what exactly...? )if it means backing down, do not back down from any of there cowards- none of them!

do not change anything, policeman or not,just do as a normal decent person would do and 99.9% of the time your be fine.

,most locals are a bunch of cowardly <deleted> who would,nt do anything without all their friends behind them or a gun,knife or whatever, or some high-so daddy, its pathetic! Get them on their own and they,re nothing.

one to one for people here does,nt exist, at heart I,am ashamed to say this-thais by and large ( not all of coures)are cowards, its just the typical primate mentality of a nation still with one foot in the rice paddy .They ( we) also see westeners as 'better' and so are more likely to act like a primate fool.

I hate it when i see people suggest that westeners should somehow act differently, why does,nt someone suggest that thailand grow up for a change- then we really would have something to be proud of instead of all this mindless propaganda we,re fed from day one

Are you for real?

obviously not- you just imagined me....come on man , get real, look at this place, look at this mindset, forget the race issue....

can anyone with half a balanced mind honestly say any different. Thailand is a nation of infants, it only has an airport because of the daughter it sells to rich farany, thats something to be realy proud of there. The countrys is a mess and a joke, and unless people put aside this fake ego based patriotism there will never be any progress....

Already, we've determined that an execution took place. I'd guess some beligerent tourists insulted the wrong Thai guy. He may or may not have been a cop, doesn't much matter now does it. Lesson learned: drink lots of water, walk slowly and respect the local population. Funny, works just about everywhere.

Did not take long for the thai apologists did it?

The victim is now the guilty?

Stick to trying to find work for 2 year olds as your sense of morality is lost!

You may turn out to be right, let's wait and see if our victim was guilt-free. It's just that every day I see tourists doing stupid, terribly insulting things here in Thailand without reproach. For the same behaviours these tourists would be carved into pieces in my home country. I don't know where you guys are hanging out, but if the Thais around you seem particularly violent, I'd ask yourselves what it is that made you choose that locale. Most of us find the Thailand we've lived in for a long time to be rather peaceful and the people rather friendly.

your either blind, stupid, married to a young lovely thia gal half you age or what I do not know...wake up! see a doctor, your living in another world.. I,ve been here 27 years 99.9% of the people I know, diplomats, professonals, etc agree with me, albeit, secretly

Already, we've determined that an execution took place. I'd guess some beligerent tourists insulted the wrong Thai guy. He may or may not have been a cop, doesn't much matter now does it. Lesson learned: drink lots of water, walk slowly and respect the local population. Funny, works just about everywhere.

can I say this?, I,am half and half ...<deleted> to any idea of kowtowing, showing respect for the culture ( which is what exactly...? )if it means backing down, do not back down from any of there cowards- none of them!

do not change anything, policeman or not,just do as a normal decent person would do and 99.9% of the time your be fine.

,most locals are a bunch of cowardly <deleted> who would,nt do anything without all their friends behind them or a gun,knife or whatever, or some high-so daddy, its pathetic! Get them on their own and they,re nothing.

one to one for people here does,nt exist, at heart I,am ashamed to say this-thais by and large ( not all of coures)are cowards, its just the typical primate mentality of a nation still with one foot in the rice paddy .They ( we) also see westeners as 'better' and so are more likely to act like a primate fool.

I hate it when i see people suggest that westeners should somehow act differently, why does,nt someone suggest that thailand grow up for a change- then we really would have something to be proud of instead of all this mindless propaganda we,re fed from day one

total childish BS, when will this country grow up?. Its pathetic.

Am I alowed to say this...? I,am half western, and it shames me to see this sort of nonsense going on.No wonder so many westeners laugh at thailand- I cannot balme them.

I only hope that oneday all this will change

I,ll drink as much as I like law or no law

why do people do it? the reason is- its so dam easy. 99.9% of those doing it get away with. After a few trips they then hire someone to do it for them.The odds are vastly in the crooks favour.

Its alot better than slaving away at a boring deadend job for years and years for a pittance.

I don,t blame them at all. In another world I may well do exactly the same thing.

All this nonsense about what is right and what is wrong.Why is it? Who says so? the same people who sell arms, sell their daughters, etc, etc.

Nobody forces people to take drugs... most of people who write in saying that they should get punished are the real losers. They,re upset that most get away with it and love it when one does,nt.

People do not like to be reminded that some crooks, in fact most, do get away with their crimes- and that their lawabiding dull life leaders really hate this

Sure sure, BUT there is NO honor within the criminals!

Not all of coures, but many.On both sides.

But I do agree that not all have the old school type of honor- but to say none have is plain wrong

That's all i'm going to say on this topic until some news source comes out and reports what i have already said, yes i know a lot more information but i'm unwilling to post it on a public forum before it even becomes public knowledge and i breach someones trust.

I trust you understand my reasons.

Chloe.

you are 100% correct and one of the few who seems to make any sense on this forum. I,am suprised and disspointed at some responses

nest wishes

I'd like to say something about being sorry for them poor stupid misguided guys what with the hel_l they're going to face but I can't.

I agree with seonai, they're prats and I hope they get a nice long term in the BKK Hilton so they can reassess their lifestyle.

your must be really dull for you to say something like that perhapsyou should access yours.

I hope you know that most get away with it, and look at people like you as the real losers... they,ve got a point

why do people do it? the reason is- its so dam easy. 99.9% of those doing it get away with. After a few trips they then hire someone to do it for them.The odds are vastly in the crooks favour.

Its alot better than slaving away at a boring deadend job for years and years for a pittance.

I don,t blame them at all. In another world I may well do exactly the same thing.

All this nonsense about what is right and what is wrong.Why is it? Who says so? the same people who sell arms, sell their daughters, etc, etc.

Nobody forces people to take drugs... most of people who write in saying that they should get punished are the real losers. They,re upset that most get away with it and love it when one does,nt.

People do not like to be reminded that some crooks, in fact most, do get away with their crimes- and that their lawabiding dull life leaders really hate this

Gee, maybe the reason Japan started this program could be because they were hoping for the results they got on the first day.

TH

what results d,you mean? 5 people.... FIVE PEOPLE, wow! Come on,,, get real, how many have now altered/changed and slipped, we wont hear about them.

the lowest from of crooks is really gonna make a difference I can see that.

Real progress there.How about all those which will now, because of japans measures change/alter ones their prints- completely nullifying almost all ways to keep track of them.

let me say- this will stop nothing, maybe a few lower end crooks, but not at all the more educated ones.Its a huge waste of money, times, loss of face and will indrectly impede the abilty to keep tabs on criminals.

Japan detains 5 with new fingerprint entry checks

Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:54 AM GMT

Email This Article | Print This Article | RSS [-] Text [+] TOKYO (Reuters) - Fingerprint checks on foreigners arriving in Japan matched five people to an immigration blacklist on the first day, the Justice Ministry said on Wednesday.

Biometric scanning of almost all foreigners entering Japan was introduced on Tuesday, sparking anger among long-term residents, businesspeople and human rights campaigners.

The five individuals' fingerprints came up on a list containing around 800,000 names including Interpol suspects and people deported from Japan in the past, the ministry said.

It refused to give any details of the five people or say which countries they came from.

One of the five is set to be deported and the others are still under investigation, a ministry official said.

The new procedure, which involves electronic scanning of both index fingers as well as taking a digital photo of the face, ran into minor problems due to computer glitches and people with dry fingertips.

Domestic media reported as an immigration official in Fukuoka, southern Japan, as saying it was hard to check some older people because their fingerprints have worn smooth.

The new checks had little effect on waiting times at Narita airport, the main international airport serving Tokyo, an immigration official said.

Introduced as an anti-terrorism measure, the system has been criticised for linking foreigners with crime. Opponents demonstrated outside the Justice Ministry on Tuesday.

"We will continue working to increase the understanding that scanning fingerprints is the most reliable method in current technology of checking the identity of individuals,"

a ministry official said.

BS- the most reliable is so flawed- alter them for less than $10, change ,em for quite a bit more. If thats the best law enforment can do the crooks are,nt exactly shaking in thir boots

More than 6.7 million foreign visitors entered Japan last year, while around 171,000 foreigners overstayed their visas, government statistics show.

Gee, maybe the reason Japan started this program could be because they were hoping for the results they got on the first day.

TH

what results d,you mean? 5 people.... FIVE PEOPLE, wow! Come on,,, get real, how many have now altered/changed and slipped, we wont hear about them.

the lowest from of crooks is really gonna make a difference I can see that.

Real progress there.How about all those which will now, because of japans measures change/alter ones their prints- completely nullifying almost all ways to keep track of them.

let me say- this will stop nothing, maybe a few lower end crooks, but not at all the more educated ones.Its a huge waste of money, times, loss of face and will indrectly impede the abilty to keep tabs on criminals.

Japan detains 5 with new fingerprint entry checks

Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:54 AM GMT

Email This Article | Print This Article | RSS [-] Text [+] TOKYO (Reuters) - Fingerprint checks on foreigners arriving in Japan matched five people to an immigration blacklist on the first day, the Justice Ministry said on Wednesday.

Biometric scanning of almost all foreigners entering Japan was introduced on Tuesday, sparking anger among long-term residents, businesspeople and human rights campaigners.

The five individuals' fingerprints came up on a list containing around 800,000 names including Interpol suspects and people deported from Japan in the past, the ministry said.

It refused to give any details of the five people or say which countries they came from.

One of the five is set to be deported and the others are still under investigation, a ministry official said.

The new procedure, which involves electronic scanning of both index fingers as well as taking a digital photo of the face, ran into minor problems due to computer glitches and people with dry fingertips.

Domestic media reported as an immigration official in Fukuoka, southern Japan, as saying it was hard to check some older people because their fingerprints have worn smooth.

The new checks had little effect on waiting times at Narita airport, the main international airport serving Tokyo, an immigration official said.

Introduced as an anti-terrorism measure, the system has been criticised for linking foreigners with crime. Opponents demonstrated outside the Justice Ministry on Tuesday.

"We will continue working to increase the understanding that scanning fingerprints is the most reliable method in current technology of checking the identity of individuals," a ministry official said.

More than 6.7 million foreign visitors entered Japan last year, while around 171,000 foreigners overstayed their visas, government statistics show.

hello

ha! ha! ha! the jpn gov . has made a huge mistake, a huge waste of public funds,loss of face, etc, something they hate most of all

and its upset the very people it should be protecting the rights of.

The silly arguement of- if you,ve nothing to hide why worry, how far will that go

we,re talkiong about japan here, it may be rich but its human rights hav,nt progressed at all since WW 2. They are still well in the dark ages.

first of- its quite easy, and legal to alter/ change one prints. I know a man who has done it. its one of those secrets goverments do not wish us to know because it negates all their propaganda.

Go any serach engine- go somewhere like turkey, mexico, etc.

also check out www.justicefornickbaker.org look for a recent post by a man called blacksheep who tells about this. I,ve been in contact with him. He wanders in and out of japan despite being an ex con.

The jpn gov. tried, and failed to take down his posts- why? because they do not wish to admit their huge error...and loss of face