RigPig

On 3/31/2018 at 9:19 PM, PoorSucker said:

They are called mopeds under 50cc 

Not strictly true a TRUE moped has pedals and was a glorified push-bike with a small motor to aid you up hill.  The things most common in use in Thailand are scooters and are often greater than 125cc, and with modern technology can reach speeds of 100Kmh easily.  When I got my first bike license I had to take the test on a bike under 250cc and hold that "provisional" license for a year (on a bike with provisional registration) and then go for another test in order to ride a bigger bike.  People just come here and cannot do these things in their own countries but see it everyday here, assume it is OK and normal (and accepted).  Let's face it Thais do it all the time illegal or not.  AND DON'T CARE...

So I guess the question is "Why do you wear a helmet?"  Is it to avoid the fine or to protect your "nogin"?

ALL my helmets come from the States and are DOT compliant.  Thailand does have a standards system but... I am not sure I trust it.

At a $100 each (plus P&H) I figure it's cheap insurance...

I think t is something like 70% of major injuries or deaths are head related on motorbikes, up to you!!!

And don't get me wrong I have and love riding without a helmet, an open road at 80 MPH without a helmet and still accelerating...  BUZZ... (eyes water too much to read the speedo after that haha)

2 hours ago, transam said:

So did the shop rent out a bike to a bloke with no bike license from any country...?

Hmmm let me think... "200 baht a day (and any damaged caused at 500 percent markup

)  or not

1 hour ago, PoorSucker said:

If they find him and if he has insurance. 

It's a bit like my old man used to say " If everyone else puts their hand in the fire would you do the same?"

Yeah and the standards approved ice cream buckets everyone wears will help too!!  I imported ALL my helmets from the States (DOT approved) at $100 a pop I figured it was cheap insurance...

All I can say is... More Harleys, More beutiful sounding loud torquey V twin engines, More long hair and beards with people shunning the norms of society and not giving a toss about the consequences, can ONLY be a good thing !!

On 27/05/2017 at 6:27 AM, waders123 said:

Ban all bikes that blast loud noise in Thailand.  Hopefully the bike manufacturing facility will not be developed.

me me me me me.....

16 minutes ago, Jai Dee said:

Several troll and argumentative posts have been removed from this thread.

GOOD!!  Let's get back to the subject!!

5 minutes ago, ben2talk said:

Looking at the back of a Goldwing you'll see a two-wheel car...

Actually there are many choices, and Harley's aren't a bad one if you want to carry huge loads over long distances with no curves and at moderate speeds.... 

 

Okay - now go out and test drive a 1976 Jaguar XJ6.. absolutely beautiful car. I appreciate it is beautiful - but I would never be interested to own one. If I want a car now, I'd prefer a new Camry for the same money. For a bit more money then I'd go for a Porsche Panamera - better than any 'classic' IMO. To each his own... but we're talking a new bike factory here, not 'classic'.

NO actually we are talking about a new bike factory manufacturing "CLASSIC" bikes in Thailand.....

3 hours ago, ben2talk said:

Does ANYONE actually think that a bike is a superior tool for travelling long distances?

 

Sure, if you want to go 'touring' across continents, a Harley is one option. So are Adidas shoes and bicycles.

 

Actually 'REAL' bikers are the people who use their machines to commute to/from work, go and pick up shopping, take your kid and his go-kart to the local park, daily school runs...

 

'Dream' bikers are people who think it's actually a normal activity to decide not to take an aeroplane, but to make an 'event' of the journey (as if 3-4 hours sitting in a saddle isn't enough... I don't even want to spend more than that sitting on my sofa for chrisssakes!!).

 

So fine - you did your tour. Try to ignore the Honda Gold Wing brigade - it's hardly a bike (more like a pretend car-on-wheels)... The fact is that you're now entering a crazy tiny niche who buy bikes JUST for the tour. You look down on the 'everyday biker' brigade, even the 'weekender' holiday brigade.... In the same breath I can look down on you.

 

Harley are not really very known for their MotoGP bikes - the Japanese do it so much better, and you can sneeze as much as you like when you see a ZX10 being sold in a shop in a Mall and say 'you can't pick up a Harley this easily'. There's a reason for this... and it's not that you need to start spending heaps of cash to try to customise it into a half decent bike 'ok, let's spend a few thousand fitting a monoshock here... make it more like a real sportbike'.

 

If you want better sound, best upgrade from the ZX10 and go for Ducatti - the most amazing sounding bikes that actually keep up riding through traffic. That's right, we're not very likely to be heading up into the Rocky Mountains listening to Led Zeppelin on our ahem ipods any time soon. We ARE likely to pop down to The Mall to buy a new saucepan, maybe some socks, then maybe stop off at Makro and buy 20kg of supplies that will fit nicely in a plastic crate thrown on the metal rack at the back of the rider... 

 

I've seen more 'REAL riders' huddled under bridges when it rains 'it's just not worth the risk' than I could count.

 

Face facts - these are simply toys. People who love bikes will have a 650 Vstrom parked outside, next to a ZX14 (heavy tourer) and a Hyabusa, with a 1000 Fazer for real everyday use... They don't have Harleys. Only Harley worshippers have Harleys.

 

Collectors wishing to preserve expenditure (low depreciation) don't choose good stuff - Toyota are reliable and good cars to use, but we want an MGB because we can get our money back. 

 

The point of this thread is that Harley will build in Thailand - that's money for the Thai economy and good for the country maybe... but if it leads to an increase in the number of Harleys on the roads of Thailand getting in my way when I want to get through traffic (and jeeeez I never saw a Harley that didn't block traffic when I want to go through) then it's definitely not good for me.

 

Real bikers - I bet you never met one.

" but if it leads to an increase in the number of Harleys on the roads of Thailand getting in my way when I want to get through traffic (and jeeeez I never saw a Harley that didn't block traffic when I want to go through) then it's definitely not good for me."

Well judging by that part of the post I would guess you ALWAYS have to be at the front at the lights when on a scooter, ALWAYS pull out and block the traffic in peak hour so that YOU can get across the road, Park out side the 7/11 blocking the traffic on a blind bend forcing everyone else to cross the yellow line, AWAYS push your way to the front of the queue in a supermarket......

How's it go ME ME ME ME ME.

So who cares what you think in reality!!!

27 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:

Why are you even in this thread then if you do not like people that ride motorbikes ?

I think is just a matter of TROLL!!! in his case.....

23 hours ago, wakeupplease said:

A Patong PEA worker inspects a harness before carrying out safety checks

 

That will be the day, Safety Checks Ho Ho Ho

He actually didn't know what it was and couldn't work out why or how he should use it

3 hours ago, HaleySabai said:

You are right,homy...they are rubbish bikes.

 

And you would know this because?,,,,,,,,,,,

2 hours ago, transam said:

Doesn't most stuff now...?

Quite right and they must have done something right for the badge to mean something....

24 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:

There are 2 RigPig's ?

 

Or was your post meant to be made under a different name ?

Mate EVERYONE working rigs is a pig 555

22 minutes ago, Techno Viking said:

I hope the 750 Street Rod comes down in price cause I would love one to replace my Yamaha scooter.

I suspect they will make those and the new 500 here, may take a while but you'll be OK

1 minute ago, Ace of Pop said:

Unless they bring the price down they will remain a Nich Market,1mill for the top ones, no wonder my only pall here with one is single, on the Rigs and carts it about in a nice New Toyo 4x4.Ive had a wobble around on it , it's a dream of a Bike.☠️.Dare I say ide value it at about 550 k .


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Well I am in the same situation (RigPig) and i have 2, and they are both one off creations / builds.  I do ride mine though, mine are probably close to a mill Baht each, more reliable than a Thai GF that's for sure!! haha.

But being locally built (less tax) and the new financing arrangements there should be a lot more around... I hope.

4 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Yes I get that but there is still a noise level that is legal, in Thailand, dependent on engine size, its 95-99 dBA @ 200mm from the pipe. It cant legally be louder than that no matter where the pipe is made. Around 90-100 dBA is standard all over the world

 

http://www.tisi.go.th/standard/fulltext_e/tis341_2543.pdf

 

That may be so but TIT, and beside when all of the Generals in the Army and High ranking police have one as standard State supplied kit I don't think it will be much of an issue.....

The REALLY great thing will be the competitive financing deals, this should make the bikes available to any Thai that can obtain credit!!!  Bye bye "Monkey bikes".....

4 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Are you saying that an ASEAN manufactured muffler is somehow exempt from local noise or emissions laws ?

The way I understand it is that if it is legal in ANY ASEAN country it is deemed to be legal in all ASEAN countries...

6 minutes ago, transam said:

And you can still buy an MGB, I had a 1964 Roadster, good fun.....

VERY COOL!! and British racing green?

BREAKING NEWS

Harley Davidson to source exhaust systems from China.

Willie G Davidson is quoted as stating when their plant in Thailand is up and running they will embrace the ASEAN concept in both sales and manufacturing.  The Plant in Thailand will give them the ability to take full advantage of the market in Asia for both sales and sourcing parts for both the home market and the "local" Asian market, which has been climbing in recent years more than the domestic market has declined.  He said "We will be offering competitive finance deals similar to the States to promote local sales and increase the awareness in the local market competing directly with brands such as Ducati, Triumph  and Kawasaki"

A spokesman for the manufacturing department said " The use of ASEAN mufflers will allow us to not have to compy with local noise and emmission laws with the reciprical arrngements in place between ASEAN countries"

57 minutes ago, kannot said:

Always though Harleys were piles of antiquated  junk from a bygone era..right up there with "MG" now

I like MG's too.....

3 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Yes, I can relate to this.

I have three bikes, two Honda C90's (1980 & 1981) and a Honda (C70). The only bike I can think of that is slower than me is a C50. All have custom paint jobs with loads of chrome. I love them to bits and the amount of offers I've had to sell them makes me think I'm not alone.

For Phuket, they're ideal due to the traffic. Being narrower than all modern scooters, I always get to the front of a queue.

 

But, this thread is about HDs. They used to be quite rare here, but, not anymore and it isn't only foreigners that ride them. I would say most of the ones I have seen on the road are being driven by Thais, Malaysians and Singaporeans, every bike different. HD's lend themselves to personal creativity, which I don't think is a bad thing.

I think you can split most riders into three different groups. One group just want a practical, inexpensive bike for transport as they can't afford a car. The second group want performance and superior handling and the third group want a bike with character that they can customize that shows their own character.

Nothing wrong with any of the groups, they just have different motivations. They are all two wheel aficionados.

 

WELL SAID!!

Love the bike, I personally would prefer that over some super engineered crotch rocket any day, it's beutiful, and classy!!

6 minutes ago, waders123 said:

Well good for you!  LOL  And if your bikes are mufflered to not require ear plugs or sound suppressors of some sort as they pass by then I apologize in grouping you with the herd of noisy cruisers.  As for the #noisyHD's may karma be their reward.  Peace Brother, May the force be with you!

As I have stated numerous times the Thais on their "Monkey Bikes", that they pull the baffles out of are far more annoying and that is what you guys should be peeved about as there are many of them!  The number of Harleys around are miniscure in comparison, but I guess this has become a Harley bashing thread, because the people who ride them choose (generally) not to conform with other peoples views......

STIFF !!

2 minutes ago, halloween said:

I saw it as just a comment on personal taste. Did I hit a nerve?

No but I think it's time you realised the world DOESN'T revolve around you and no one has to conform to your "stringent" archaic set of rules, just because you think so....

Plus not everyone is the same, you don't know me and don't know my tastes!