andybangkok

Thanks very much to all members on ThaiVisa who gives me good advices & great informations on this subject

Hope this topic will help others.

But never thinking that this subject will have a great response like that

Ok i know now that it is "extension" & not "extention"

Great. Thank you

On arrival I will go to the Vietnam immigration to have a stamp & after i go to the departure and immigration again to have a stamp out

So I have to go on Dec. 16 to have a 30 day on arrival

I look every country with Air Asia. They have a sale now

So the cheapest is HCMC (saigon)

16 dec - Depart at 13pm arrive at 14.50

16dec.- to bkk depart 9.30pm arrive 11.00

So i have to wait 1 hour to be dec 17 as i have a multiple entries and don't want to use it as i will be at square 1

Total cost is very cheap at 2,000 return

Vietnam visa is 25.00 + 19.00 for booking online

So not bad after all

But even that i did not expect to travel anywhere in December

Ubonjoe is it ok that way ?

Last year i had no problem. But i think the girlis very strict. I have the 3 months in my bank but only withdraw 5,000b 2 days ago that i put back the next day. .

If i go by air in Cambodia the 16 & return here after 3 days , does i can have 30 days like before

Thank you

I agree that penalising you for 2 days is harsh.

As long as you qualify for visa exempt entry you would be given 30 days on entry if you don't have a visa.

You don't need to have the money in your bank for two months to get the non 'O' visa. So you could apply now.

Then I expect removing 50 baht for 25 minutes would be even harsher.

You know your income from overseas, you need to keep the bank account sufficiently high that even fluctuations in exchange rate on the day do not catch you out.

I had the required combination of pension & money in the bank totalising more than 800,000 at the time of meeting with the officer ( by the way all officers in CW that day was women for L extention booths), just a constatation.

I have stayed there for 4 hours and spoke to nearly all of them. Even the supervisor . Not negociable. I stayed polite all the time.

They all refuse because I withdraw some money days before, so not consecutive 3 months

I really want to have another 30 days on arrival after my extention is void December 16.

So i am planning to buy a cheap ticket to Yangoon on the 16th. I already look in air asia and it is about 1,700b

But i will not stay there and come back in the morning of the 17th

I am not planning to buy a visa online as i will stay in the airport all the night if it's possible

I have a ticket out of Thailand to Philippines already for January 4

Will it be ok for stay only 1 day and return to Bkk

I think you will need to the visa to enter Myanmar or the airline will not allow you to board your flight.

Also immigration could question you about why you have no entry/departure stamps for Myanmar when you return.

One day out is not a problem. You could even do it on the same day without a problem.

Ok. thanks. Will apply visa online. Will book dec.16 early morning and out to Bkk nightime

I really want to have another 30 days on arrival after my extention is void December 16.

So i am planning to buy a cheap ticket to Yangoon on the 16th. I already look in air asia and it is about 1,700b

But i will not stay there and come back in the morning of the 17th

I am not planning to buy a visa online as i will stay in the airport all the night if it's possible

I have a ticket out of Thailand to Philippines already for January 4

Will it be ok for stay only 1 day and return to Bkk

Thanks for all advices.

But it is the nail in the coffin for me. I quit Thailand after 9 years.

I have spend the last 4 months in Cebu , Philippines and this will be my new home now. I have already rent a condo there.

In Philippines you can be on a tourist visa for 3 years, extention every 6 months & no problem. Retirement visa is about half money put in the bank then Thailand.

I have travel many time in all Southeast Asia country and i can tell that the Philippines people are the most friendly.. And everybody speak english there.

That was my mistake to withdraw some money but I was sure that the 3 months does not need to me seasonned for combination . The rules have changed

Should have mentioned this in your original post. Would have saved everyone a lot of time.

I am not a regular poster here ,but a very regular reader.

I really want to have a retirement extention for another year because not sure 100% if i will like to stay in Philippines.

I tell my experience to be sure that other people are aware of the CW very strict rules, and I agree with that. And no make the same mistake i do.

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Ok now we know. Everybody have to have a 3 months deposit in the bank without any withdraw. Any method: 800,000 or combination pension & money in bank

Last year i had no problem. But i think the girlis very strict. I have the 3 months in my bank but only withdraw 5,000b 2 days ago that i put back the next day. .

If i go by air in Cambodia the 16 & return here after 3 days , does i can have 30 days like before

Thank you

I agree that penalising you for 2 days is harsh.

As long as you qualify for visa exempt entry you would be given 30 days on entry if you don't have a visa.

You don't need to have the money in your bank for two months to get the non 'O' visa. So you could apply now.

Thanks, i will do that

Using a combination of income and bank balance, no time requirement on how long funds should have been in bank.

The monthly income shown in the Embassy letter x 12 months added to the bank balance should total 800,000 Baht or more (remember, exchange rates fluctuate, Immigration uses the rate in effect on the date of application).

That's what I found...

Exactly what i told them.

I will very happy if i see a text in the website mentionning that

You could appeal but I doubt it will be successful. They have been moving towards seasoned bank deposits for the last couple of years.

Immigration website Q&A. http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=faq

22. Question : What is the required age of the alien wisthing to stay in Thailand with the reason of Retirement?

Answer : For reasons to stay of Retirement, the alien must be 50 year of age or older and must have been granted a Non-Immigrant visa, firstly. More over, the said alien must have evidences to verify his/her financial status of not less than 65,000 Baht per month or 800,000 Baht per year. Evidences showing financial support are as follows;

1. In case of having money in the bank account (Saving/Fix deposit) of any bank located in Thailand.

- The updated bank passbook on the date of application submission showing money in the account of not less than 800,000 Baht which has been deposited and consecutively held of such amount for 3 months. ( Except the first application for this reason, that such amount should be deposited and held for 60 days)

- Letter from the bank certified the current account in the bank of not less than 800,000 Baht; or

2.2 In case of having any other income from abroad such as pension, social welfare

- Letter from the applicant’s Embassy or consulate in Thailand verifying their pension or other income of the applicant which must not be less than 65,000 Baht per month. Or;

2.3 In case of a combination of having money in the bank account and income from pension, with total amount of not less than 800,000 Baht per year, the required documents are the same as mentioned in 2.1and 2.2

Last year i had no problem. But i think the girlis very strict. I have the 3 months in my bank but only withdraw 5,000b 2 days ago that i put back the next day. .

If i go by air in Cambodia the 16 & return here after 3 days , does i can have 30 days like before

Thank you

Using a combination of income and bank balance, no time requirement on how long funds should have been in bank.

The monthly income shown in the Embassy letter x 12 months added to the bank balance should total 800,000 Baht or more (remember, exchange rates fluctuate, Immigration uses the rate in effect on the date of application).

That's what I found...

Exactly what i told them.

I will very happy if i see a text in the website mentionning that

I am a french Canadian from Montreal living in Bangkok for the last 9 years. Today, Monday Nov. 30 I went to CW to renew my extention who will end December 16 , 2015. I have a combination of pension & money in the bank. I have every papers in order as it is my 4 extention in Bkk. Everything was in order but... they refuse my extention . Why ? they said that i have to be money 3 months in the bank. I said they never ask that before. This is the regulation, the girl said. I said it's not necessary as i have a combination and not 800,000 . Even that i have the 3 months deposit already. But i withdraw 5,000 b 5 days ago. But i replace immediately the next day. They said it have to be consecutive without any withdraw for 3 months. I said you're wrong and I want to speak on your supervisor. Needless to say the supervisor tell me the same thing. I was a little frustrated but was polite all the time.

My questions is: has the rule change? do you have any text in the immigration website that the seasoning no need to stay 3 months in the bank? If yes i will go back and show them the regulation

What will I do next ? I have an apartment here and i buy all my possessions. Does i have only 16 days to sell everything.

What is my option ?

Thanks

Yes I will be there at the Checkin99 , Bangkok Oct. 6 with a partner

Yes and I show this paper with the open hours . I even ask other officers in the other building and they all tell me the same thing. One officers even tell me "Why you don't believe me. I work here"

I will return saturday morning

I CONFIRM : IMMIGRATION SOI PHLU IN BANGKOK FOR RE-ENTRY PERMIT OPEN FOR ALL NATIONALITIES , ONLY SATURDAY FROM 8:30 TO 12:00 -- For Laos, Cambodia & Myanmar peoples open the rest of the week.

I went back to Immigration Suan Phlu this morning. At 8:20 about 20 people waiting. The whole process take less than one hour if you arrive early . At 9:30 when I left the room was full. Mostly Indians. Only 6 farangs.

I was looking infos on schools for having ed-visa .

On May 23rd I went to Time Square Walen School and ask informations regarding the processus to obtain one. The office girl give good advise and I had made the choice right away to go to this school. I tell her that I have to go out of Thailand June 8 as my visa expire on this date.. I ask her if the whole process of papers will be ok for this date. She tell me that it may take 2 to 4 weeks to have the papers back to the school. I ask her if she assure me to have the papers on time. She cannot assure me. But she tell me that if I want to speed up the process I have to pay 5,000 bahts more right away and she promise me that the papers will arrive in 10 days. Also I have to give in advance the 25,000 bahts for the course.

I suddenly back off and tell her I want to think about it.

I went to another school . Same good advise for the girl for the infos. I explain my situation & tell her that I have to go out of Thailand June 8. No problems she tell me. The papers will arrive within 10 days. Are you sure I ask. Yes absolutely sure.

So I paid a deposit of 15,000 b ,the rest payable when she received the papers.

8 days later May 31 she call me and said she have received the papers. I was very happy. I went therre paid the rest of the course, went to Laos and come back with my ed-visa

The question is WHY Walen school charge 5,000 b for having a visa in 10 days if other school can have the same visa in 8 days FREE of charge

Anyone?

which school did u go to? the second one which you went and enrolled?

I went to Pro- Language in the 10th floor on the same building

Yes and I show this paper with the open hours . I even ask other officers in the other building and they all tell me the same thing. One officers even tell me "Why you don't believe me. I work here"

I will return saturday morning

I was looking infos on schools for having ed-visa .

On May 23rd I went to Time Square Walen School and ask informations regarding the processus to obtain one. The office girl give good advise and I had made the choice right away to go to this school. I tell her that I have to go out of Thailand June 8 as my visa expire on this date.. I ask her if the whole process of papers will be ok for this date. She tell me that it may take 2 to 4 weeks to have the papers back to the school. I ask her if she assure me to have the papers on time. She cannot assure me. But she tell me that if I want to speed up the process I have to pay 5,000 bahts more right away and she promise me that the papers will arrive in 10 days. Also I have to give in advance the 25,000 bahts for the course.

I suddenly back off and tell her I want to think about it.

I went to another school . Same good advise for the girl for the infos. I explain my situation & tell her that I have to go out of Thailand June 8. No problems she tell me. The papers will arrive within 10 days. Are you sure I ask. Yes absolutely sure.

So I paid a deposit of 15,000 b ,the rest payable when she received the papers.

8 days later May 31 she call me and said she have received the papers. I was very happy. I went therre paid the rest of the course, went to Laos and come back with my ed-visa

The question is WHY Walen school charge 5,000 b for having a visa in 10 days if other school can have the same visa in 8 days FREE of charge

Anyone?

IMMIGRATION SUAN PHLU IS STILL OPEN FOR RE-ENTRY PERMIT BUT ONLY EVERY SATURDAY 8:30 TO 12:00 FOR US .

I went there yesterday . The office was almost empty . Only 4 Asian peoples waiting. I present my passport and related papers. The girl at the desk tell me to go to Chang Wattana. I said that I was advise to go here for re-entry permit. She tell me it is only for Laos, Cambosia & Myanmar DURING the week . For others foreigners it is only EVERY SATURDAY FROM 8:30 TO 12:00. I ask that being here now can she process my permit. No way ! Cannot do that. Come saturday

So I went there for nothing

Oh i did not know that we can have a re-entry in Suan phlu.I will surely go there

And thuesday in laos I will try to have a a multi-entry and if I get one I'll let you know

Thank you very much for your help

Andy

So I will go to Laos, get my ed visa, and go to chang wattana next week to have an early re-entry permit with my ticket as a proof .

Can I go directly to the airport office for a permit even if I don't fly that day. It's because I find it more easy to go to the airport than to chang wattana

I will come back July 24. But i don't want to re-apply in Canada . You said that I can have a re-entry permit if I return before 90 days