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I have been on a yearly extension of a Non-B for years, but for my next extension in September I want to change the reason for extension to marriage.

I had a look at all the documents that were needed and as I planned to do this based on proof as income I noticed I needed a bank statement proving an income of 40,000 baht of more. 

And here is the problem : I have a salary above 40 thousand and can proof that for 11 months, BUT due to COVID my employer has decided that he can only pay me half my salary for August, so this will show as lower than 40 thousand.

So my question is :  when they talk about proof of income of 40,000 or more, do they a) want to see that you on average made 40,000 a month (in which in case I'm fine), or b) that you received 40,000 every single month of the year and not 1 baht less.

If anyone has any experience with this or has an answer to that, please share, it would be very helpful to me to know how to proceed.

I am starting a new job in May and normally I had to go to Laos to get a new non-B in April. But it looks like this will be impossible as borders close (won't be able to get into Laos) and getting back into Thailand will be equally difficult.

So I am looking for alternatives.

I am still on a non-B from the previous job and have a work permit which probably will get cancelled during April as well (but my previous employer has no intention in rushing towards a cancelation, they understand the situation I am in and are supportive)

I have read before that it should be possible to get a new extension from my new school without leaving the country by cancelling the WP, cancelling the current extension and applying for a new extension on the same day. But I have never actually met anyone who managed to do this.

I don't know if it is true that this is only possible if you stay in the same province (and deal with the same IO). In my case, I would move to a neighbouring province.

If anyone has any experience with this or advice whatsoever, it would be greatly appreciated.

Our school has hired an external advisor, who is actually a retired university professor form a renowned university in BKK. She has taken it upon her to rewrite the contracts for us foreign teachers. Luckily enough our academic director let me read the first draft, and I do feel that some things are still open for discussion. I have done some research, but would also like to hear from others who might have experience with what should be in a teachers' contract and what isn't according to the Thai Labour Law.

1. 'The teacher is eligible to have three days' sick leave with pay.' suddenly appears in our contract. If I am right, then Thai Labour Law Section 57 states that we are entitled to 30 days sick leave with pay.

2. When resigning a teacher needs to give 2 months notice, instead of 1 moth (in our current contract). My research says that it probably should be 1 pay cycle (and in our case this would mean 30 days or 1 month). But I can't seem to find the exact article in the Labour law that states that.

3. Probation will be changed from 90 days to 120 days. Research gave me 2 different answers. First that it is not stipulated in Thai law. The second answer is that it can never be more than 119 days. Any info on what is correct ?

There are actually more 'worrying' things in the contract, but there it just comes to negotiating with people that have common sense. 

The positive thing in this story though, is that it is not forced upon us yet. They gave it to read and we were able to express our concerns, and ask for some changes. The school will discuss it again. In the meantime, I am gaining some info to stand a little stronger in the next round of discussions.

18 hours ago, allane said:

A few days ago in the Teaching subforum, a guy from Belgium was complaining that his Embassy in Bangkok wouldn't "legalize" his degree. A close examination of his question reveals that he had only a photocopy of it with him

I guess you are mixing up things a little.

I do have the original degree with me, which was presented to Immigration. I even have a signed and certified copy of the degree and ToR. (Another guy who posted in the same topic didn't have the original degree, that's right) Immigration didn't even want to begin to talk about it or look at it. For them they only want it to be legalized in your home country and in the end they won't even examine it except for that final stamp from MoFA in CW.

I even talked to a guy who got a degree from a Thai university here, and the same immigration office still wanted it legalized by his home country and stamped and legalized by the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Chaeng Wattana.  Which of course doesn't make any sense at all, and only shows that they don't even have the slightest idea what they're doing or demanding because they refuse to just talk about it to us. They're just shouting out demands at us.

As for me, I will get my degree (or at least a copy of it) legalized in Belgium and go through the whole process as described above.  I understand why it could be asked, and why it is useful to have it with me here in Thailand.  What I don't understand is that I have just given Kurusapa all the proof they asked for in obtaining my teachers' licence, but now Immigration has found a new hoop to jump through and make life a little harder for us again.  Why can't they just accept that I got my teachers' licence and the MoE did its job. I also find it hard to understand that some Immigration offices demand this, while others (my previous one in Rayong for example) don't.  I also don't understand why a sworn affidavit is equally accepted by Immigration - which is far from the same of a legalized degree. Only shows to me that they don't even know what they're asking for.

But in the end, it's better to just do what they ask for. Let's face it we don't really get a choice. 

I guess more of us will face this problem in the near future, and the process as described above explains really well what needs to be done. 

But what's next ? What will be their next demand ?  I thought I had already jumped through al their hoops after 10 years in Thailand, they always seem to find something new.

12 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Yes. If you have registered yourself and your daugther in BKK, otherwise it´s recommended and often required to apply for passport at the closest office for that in your registered area.

We are living in Rayong.  I know there was an office in Pattaya before, but I guess it has closed down.

I am planning to apply for my 9-year-old daughter's Thai passport. 

I found this info :

This from the MFA webpage for Thai passports. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/1415/21479-Requirements-for-the-Ordinary-e-Passports-Applicat.html

• If the applicant was born to parents who did not sign a marriage certificate, only the mother of the applicant can sign the parental consent form. She will need to bring a letter guaranteeing sole guardianship issued by her domicile district office (Por Kor 14) accompanied by her ID Card which must bear the title ‘Miss’.
• If the applicant was born to parents who did not sign a marriage certificate, the father of the applicant cannot sign the parental consent form alone unless there is a court order
  granting sole guardianship to the father.

Me and her mum have never been married, and I have a court order that gives me the sole custody.  Will this court order be enough to present ourselves and apply for the Thai passport here in BKK, or do I need to get a Por Kor 14 first from my local amphur ?

So I took the form to immigration this morning, hoping this would eventually solve my problem.

The girl who first tried to help gave me a whole explanation why they couldn't do it and what I should do instead. Only, she was talking about the residence permit, of course. I explained her I didn't need that, only a certificate of residence and showed her the apllication form again. Somehow she seemed to understand and she went to ask some kind of superior. I was called over as well, and he understood was I looking for, but after some long thinking he told me they don't do that. Ooops, there we go again....

I kept pushing it, saying I know some "friends" who got this document at immigration, so I didn't understand why this wasn't possible here in Hat Yai. They replied those were other provinces, on which I reminded them it surely was the same country. I tried to stay calm... but I needed some kind of explanation.

Of course, it stayed that way : they could and would not do it.

The solution they gave me was this. My girlfriend is on her mother's house book in Uthai Thani. So they said I could put my name on there as well. I only needed to go to Uthai Thani in person to apply for that at the local tambon. And there they would give me a certificate of residence (which of course wouldn't match with where I'm actually living). Oh, my goodness... I friendly thanked them for their help (although I was absolutely mad inside).

Five minutes later, I brought my girlfriend to the tambon here in Hat Yai, and while she was taking care of her stuff, she also asked them what to do. Their response : but this is really easy, you can get this here, just talk to that man.

So I thought : Now is the time, if i come back tomorrow it might be difficult again....

And after 15 minutes i walked out of there with my certificate of residence... i must say i was really relieved.

That man told me immigration doesn't do this anymore, tambon does this now Ok, fine by me, but doesn't anybody at Immigration know this ?????

And even at tambon not everybody seems to know as I already asked them once a couple of months ago.

Maybe I just got lucky.

I'm on an extension of stay, which means I have to go to the immigration office every 90 days.

Concerning the registration of my motorbike, they tell me I need a certificate of residence because my motorbike is a second-hand one and currently still registered in another province (Krabi). I don't know if this makes any sense, but it could.

A certificate of residensce can be otained at immigration and it should be free.

Of course it should, but right now, I would even be happy to pay. If that makes me get that f* document

Yes, there is a difference between a Residence Permit and a Certificate of Residence. I know that, but most Thai people I talked with don't seem to know this.....

I've been to Immigration before to ask them, of course, but there they said my employer needs to take care of it (don't ask me why, most of the answers I got didn't make any sense)

But I downloaded that application form and will surely try it again tomorrow. I will keep you posted.

But this document says it's an application for a SUBSTITUTE of certificate of residence.

A couple of months ago I downloaded another form I found here on thaivisa (it's not there anymore now) that clearly stated "application form for residence certificate in Thailand", but immigration was especially interested in where I found this document, told me it was an old one, and then gave me a totally different explanation in obtaining my certificate.

Let's see what happens tomorrow. Fingers crossed. Although I must say I haven't got much hope it's gonna work this time

Hey,

Can someone please help me out. I need to obtain a certificate of residency, so I can register the motorbike I bought on my name and it's also one of the documents asked by the Belgian Embassy in recognizing my daughter to eventually give her the double nationality.

But one step at a time, I thought, let's start with that one document : my certificate of residence.

I think I already asked at tambon, at immigration, name everything you can think of. Everybody gives me a certain explanation, but they all give me totally different one. And one thing is sure ; they can't do it, it will have to be someone else.

And the explanations I got seemed very strange to me, but hey I followed their recommendations .... untill well somebody pointed me in a totally different direction again.

Some of the explanations I got were : your school has to do that, or I cannoit get one because I'm not married.

I live in Hat Yai, am on a noniimmigrant B visa, have a workpermit and am almost living in my house for a year (which I'm hiring, but the contract is on her name)

But in the end, I still wasn't able to get one of those certificates and I'm totally frustrated and

The OP should feel ashamed that he like to join them, just because its a way to stay in Thailand

Henry, I respect your opinion, and i am sure and know there is also some truth in it.

But before you jump to conclusion and start offending me :

I already live in Thailand, have a job here, make myself useful and can easily keep doing this. If my only concern would be staying in Thailand.

But on the other hand I worked as a social worker and psychologist, I did counseling for people who have a dependence to illegal drugs. I have 10 years experience in doing this in your home country Belgium, Henry.

And tell me what's wrong with trying to use this expertise over here in Thailand ?

And all the respect for the doctors of "Artsen zonder grenzen" who spend their holiday in a far away country trying to help other people. I did some work as a volunteer in India before, during my well-deserved holiday.

But hey, as I'm living here in Thailand now, I need to earn a living as well. I don't think you went working in Belgium every day as a volunteer, did you ? So, why can't I find a job which I'm good in, have the experience and can make a difference.

So instead of criticizing me, maybe you can help me out. As you're not a fan of the NGO's (point taken), and you seem to know your way around here, are there any other ways of making myself useful without going through these organisations ?

Usually the ones that are reluctant to tell you how much salary they get is because they earn so little that it's not worth talking about

Yes, that might be true. Or maybe, it's just the other way around ??

There is some evidence of well-paid jobs, as some pointed out, no doubt about that. But those are probably the high rank jobs. It's the same in every company all over the world : the higher up in the company, the more money you make.

But I'm merely talking about a normal job at the office, or in the field. That's what I'm curious about.

Hello,

I am currently working in Thailand as a teacher, but I have a bachelor in Psychology and a Master in Criminological Sciences, which makes I have the degrees and experience to work for a NGO.

But does anybody know how good they pay. It seems impossible to find an answer on this. Seems like people working an NGO don't want to tell anything about this.

Even an answer if this job would make me more money than just teaching would be a help.

I'm in the middle of the same process, and was told yesterday that my WP (stating my adress) isn't enough.

I have no rental contract of the house (the contract's on my girlfriend's name), so no water or electricity bills as well.

What they are telling me now is that my employer should garantuee me and let me put my residence there.

But maybe that won't be enough either, as they tell me a different story every single time.... it's really causing a headache at the moment.

Article 1547 of the Thai Civil Code states:

"A child born of the parents who are not married to each other is legitimated by the subsequent marriage of the parents, or by registration made on application by the father, or by a judgment of the Court."

Being named on the BC is not enough.

I'm mentioned as the father on the BC, but as i read this is not enough, i just went to the amphur here in Hat Yai to register myself as the father of the child. I was told they could not do that, and that I had to find a lawyer, and that the whole procedure would take 2 months.

Anybody got any experiences with this ?