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On 4/1/2024 at 2:12 AM, DrJack54 said:

The 60 day you refer to is not a non O.

It's an extension.

You could enter Thailand with a single entry non O marriage.

That will provide a 90 day stamp.

Prior to the expiry of that stamp you apply for 60 day extension to visit wife.

Prior to expiry of that 60 you apply for 12 month extension.

You need 400k in bank for 2 months prior to date of application for the extension 

The '60 day' he mentions, he specifically describes as an extension, he never mentions it as being a non O, not even in the quote you type under, misrepresenting his words, he correctly refers to it as an extension in that quote in relationship to the Non O visa single entry, which he correctly attributes the correct nomenclature to it.

He states,

"We can get a 60 day *extension* on the "Single-entry Non O based on marriage" for "visiting Thai spouse"

He then asks,

"My question is, can I get the one year "Non O based on marriage" extension whilst I am here on the 60 day extension to visit Thai spouse?"

To which your answer should be, yes, (as mine would be because ive done this countless times) though you choose quite consciously, like many asean now cave dwellers on here, the high pompous road, through your explanation of repeating back to him what he asked of you. Yet, with the incorrect assertion you made, that he, not you, had confused and conflated wrongly the extension and the non O.

He does indeed state 1 year extension with the parenthesis of relating it to the visa it is associated with, and instead of using brackets he uses quotation marks, but again thats not your quibble, its something to do with 60 days something or other...??..? Which clearly is an aberration of your mind, rather than real world events recorded that we minions under your rule can observe.

Extensions are relative to their visa types, how do i know this, ive done many in almost 20 years ive been here and ive heard many authorities in immigration use this description of them, not least on their websites and because even they themselves get it wrong as professionals in the field. Where extensions are described, exactly as this gentleman had done so, with relationship to its visa that one is extending the permission of stay based upon, that criteria for applying for how it is regulated and what criteria must be presented.

Eg. Can i get an extension relating to my visa non O that i would be applying for if instead i use business visa criteria? No. They are different. Ergo, the need for specificity in description of the relevant visa one wishes to extend, in asking a question about its constituent extension. 

Which by any young persons eyes and acuity, like my own, could tell, seems to be this constant attempt by many 'long standing members' on here to tell those seeking reasonable advice on state regulated obfuscated rules of law, the difference between a visa, an extension, and on, so much so, you see things that arent even there, just so you can point them out in your self appointed post no one cares for.

You and many other high priests on here, (unlike other gentleman dearly missed) get push back and scorn all the time for this irreverant behaviour, and yet, you persist, and we should not be surprised, as you well know, you cant teach an old... farang civil restraint when scoring vacuous points on a forum they hold court in, its far more approriate to this ignominious old /new gaurd protecting the sacred secrets of immigration nomenclature regarding visas and extensions from unholy exageration or misuse... as if it matters, or has ever mattered 1 bit.

Hi all. 

I recently went to Chiangmai immigration, (on the wrong day, busy as hell) but still managed to get the visa put in. 

Many Chinese applicants got turned away as they had come to late to apply that day, many pleading with the front desk to no avail.

After the chaos of the new system, where 1 person checks the documents hands to another to check, you'd think this would mean the document was ready to be stamped and signed off, picture taken, payment given off you go. You would be wrong. 

Numbers weren't being called out, (given as a ticket, as you walk in through the covid time machine) so again chaos prevailed. Many Chinese in front had to sign, add, change documents, making the preapproved check, a complete waste of time.

This happened to me, because I didn't add birth certificates ( it wasnt on list of documents), albeit I had them ready and waiting when asked inside. No-one outside knew.

My main concern about this visa change was the section regarding my wife's surname, it mentions a document 6.1.3 to state her status before marriage. I didn't have it.

I asked 7 days ago when getting my visa exempt extended, to which I was told, I only needed kor ror 2,3. Ok fine.

The 2 things that were an issue for immigration; were the photos, the print place cropped them badly.

The second being my wife's name change. Now, my wife went from her family name to mine. This can be seen on the Kor ror 3 document, and tabien baan when her parents had briefly lived with us whilst changing houses, ie same name. 

The immigration office dealing with the application had an issue, asking where the document was, and strangely showing another applicants documentation to show it in the tabien baan. Showing us their photos sitting on the bed...

I informed her that the officer previously, had said it was not necessary, at this moment a senior officer came over and asked for my wifes ID. As she could see my wife's ID had my name on it, that was apparently enough to satisfy the issue.

After that, my passport was given back, with collection date receipt and told to come to desk no3 on the date specified. 

With that at 5.10pm we fled to our freedom, with only a confused Chinese family and a single woman behind us left to sort.

Hopefully the visa is kosher, and then its onto the visa 1 year extension.

1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said:

The way I read everyone who applies for a first Child U.K. Passport through VFS in Thailand has to supply a DNA Test, £200 if you use VFS. A previous poster says this only applies from people from Laos but I can’t see where it says that ?

I wonder if anyone has ever challenged VFS about having to supply a DNS Test ?

 

1. DNA testing – For first time child cases (first passport for a child) applying for British citizenship and who have been offered by His Majesty’s Passport Office to take their DNA test at a VFS Global Visa Application Centre. VFS staff will contact you by email once we receive the notification from HMPO. The DNA testing company will send your results directly to HMPO, and to the email address you have provided to HMPO, after DNA samples have been collected for all family members.

    

   The indicative costs of DNA testing is as follows: £150 per family member sampled in country of application; or £200 per family member sampled in the UK.

This guff at the top is clearly meant to confuse. I will be going to get my sons first passport he is 8. My eldest already has one albeit needs renewing. I was born after jan 1, 1982 which means I have to provide my parents birth and marriage certificates to prove I'm British, to pass on my Britishness to my son. 

I will be refusing dna testing. I will if needs be, complaining to the embassy and my local mp, who helped previously when my wife was applying for settlement visa and then was delay, if this is what vfs are mandating. 

4 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

This is link for the DFS Global website stating a DNA Test is required,

https://visa.vfsglobal.com/lao/en/gbr/hmpo

What I posted is from the UK governments website, not some company working on their behalf. As it states quite clearly what is necessary or not, any company suggesting you *need* to do x, y or z should be pointed to the the states own requirements, that they are working on behalf of.

If you want to do a DNA test that is upto you, but its not a requirement, and, more importantly, they have no power to insist you take it. 

Because VFS is a company, and they make money, this is probably the angle that they try to use in order to get you to pay more money, like their other products that they make seem would be of use to you.

21 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

If you are not married to the Mother she has to sign the application form, I signed our sons and I had to resubmit the application form with his Mothers signature.

The other point is if the it’s the child’s first passport VFS Global in Bangkok now require a DNA Test not sure if you have to as you are applying in the U.K. but I doubt it.
DNA testing – For first time child cases (first passport for a child) applying for British citizenship and who have been offered by His Majesty’s Passport Office to take their DNA test at a VFS Global Visa Application Centre.

This guidance tells HM Passport Office staff:

• that we follow Home Office DNA guidance
• that we cannot require customers to provide DNA evidence as part of their passport application
• that we have no specific statutory power to require DNA evidence
• what we do when we receive DNA evidence to support a British passport application

Hello all,

I'm currently visa exempt. In chiangmai. I'm wondering can I get a 60 day marriage straight off the bat, or, do I need to get a 30 day extension first to then get 60 day. 

Are there any limits to getting this time restrictions etc..?

The goal is to get 1 year extension.

I have 400k seasoned. A wife, and a headache.

So I'm ready to go

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks. I think they were put on the tabien baan at birth so 3 years ago for the newest, so not recent.

Hi All.

I have a 2 children born in thailand, one is 10 and the other 3, to the same mother who is Thai, I am a british national.

I have a british passport for the eldest but that has now expired and needs renewing, and I need to get a first passport for the 3 y.o, (they also both have new thai passports).

Am I right with the details for renewal of a passport I need for the 10 yo:

full colour copies of both old thai and british passport every page

2 colour photos 35mm to 45mm

Tabien baan (translated)

questions;

Can I use his tambien baan translated as resident permit?

Im in Chinagmai, so I have to apply in BKK and also pick up in BKK?

Is there anything else Im missing?

With the First passport of the 3 year old he was born after 2006:

So then I will need:

2 photos 35mmx 45mm

new thai passport

tabien baan (translated)

birth certificate (translated)

Mothers Id card

My full birth certificate

mothers full birth certificate (translated)

I was born after 1 jan 1983, am I right to think I need my parents (childs grandparents) birth certificates and marriage certificate?

I know it was long and thank you for anyone's help.

On 9/9/2018 at 11:05 PM, Crossy said:

A 9,000 BTU A/C will draw around 900 Watts (about 4 Amps) when the compressor is running.

 

No problem load wise adding it to a lightly loaded outlet circuit if it's wired in 2.5mm², put a plug on it and you're good to go.

 

You shouldn't have a breaker over 20A on 2.5 so it would be wise to swap that 25A out.

 

If it's practical I would still run a dedicated circuit but it's not essential.

HI, Thanks for that. I have the option of a dedicated circuit but its 4mm on 25 or 32 amp breaker, but I wanted to try and use this for electrical heater 6KW (multi) elsewhere. So if I can just come of the dedicated fridge circuit with no ill affects and I just have to swap out the breaker, I would prefer this.

On a side note, I noticed that the other Ac unit I have, 15k btu, has live + neutral to the consumer, but no earth. Ive managed to change everything else but this I have not as I have to remodel this room and will be getting it taken down shortly. When I go to put it back where should the earth go? is there a point on the inside unit? I did get a static or electrical shock from the compressor when it was on, so should i just earth this with a ground stake into the earth outside also?

Thank you again for your help

Regards

Hi

I have a circuit mcb 25 amp for 3 sockets only, that is basically for the fridge freezer. Could I come off this for a 9000 btu, the wire is 2.5mm or not advisable?

Thank you for any help

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Many left turns have signs saying left turn is okay on red...

yes. i know. thats not the problem. the problem is red light on left should surely stop for green coming from anywhere? right. including uturn, whuch it doesnt holding up green.

On 8/19/2018 at 10:24 PM, Ulic said:

Not sure you are 100% in the right. In Canada, the road must be shared. So if a car slightly crosses

the yellow line to pass a parked/broken down car that may be partially blocking his lane and you

fail to move over when you have space on your side of the road, you would be in the wrong. Running

head-on into another car playing chicken is one thing but hitting a scooter rider head on because he

is passing on the yellow line/ slightly in your lave when you have room to move over slightly is crazy.

You must experience wicked road rage here. I look forward to hearing about your experience when you

piss off one of the many lunatic Thia drivers that I read about regularly.

I have to be honest, you sound no better than them. Growing up a kid who never shared his toys.  

thanks for your reply. i think you might have misunderstood the actual situation. Im saying there is no obstruction and cars are over the central line on my side. however if there was an obstruction on theirs they proceed to move into my lane and i have to stop. how can that make sense. when i say play chicken i mean im in my lane and they are also in my lane and im not going to stop because im being forced off. nothing as severe as you mention.

On 8/19/2018 at 11:25 PM, DJ54 said:

You already know the answer....

thanks. i just hoped someone knew the actual code. As im happy to help others but want to know its the actual right thing. im happy to stand ground as a guest in this country for fellow drivers, but was looking for something more concrete to stand in. thank you anyway.

On 8/20/2018 at 10:06 AM, JoeW said:

Quick question, I thought u-turning at a red light is only allowed when there is a sign telling you it is allowed. As far as I remember the Thai highway code says that unless otherwise specified it is not allowed to u-turn at a red light. 

no, as previous the uturn is on green. the red light traffic is left turning on the merging road of both. which stops dead the uturn traffic on green. people ahead of me i will presume thai are too afraid to go because no one knows what is the right of way. people get away with this because as youve seen demonstrated above the cowardly decisions of other to promote dangerous driving simply because people are thai. The kind of patronizing nonsense that comes out of foreign minds is sometimes baffling to me. I thank you for your reply and not adfing to the baffonary.

On 8/20/2018 at 10:26 AM, mogandave said:

I would think u turn on red is never allowed

no its not. im talking about uturn traffic on green being stopped by the red traffic turning left on to the merging road. they keep going and so green light doesnt move. this seems like the thai version of mexican standoff. all i want to know is, but failing to get, and instead didnt need the youre a guest, this is thailand, your dangerous for driving correctly nonsense. thank you for replying anyway.

On 8/20/2018 at 3:33 AM, teutonian said:

You do realize that when in Rome...   chill and adapt. You are the guest here. Leave the law enforcement to the Thais and if you don’t like the traffic, either don’t drive, or go home.  Nobody wins a traffic fight if there are injuries or worse. 

 

Furthermore, the western style defensive driving style would not subscribe to a theory that one driver has the right to “teach another a lesson. “

 

Yuelding to traffic is a basic courtesy.   

Im not a guest, i dont subscribe to your philosophy and your way of thinking is a cowards way of living life. first of all thais do not own this country they have no greater right then me as a person within their country abiding by the laws. just because all of you want to patronise them and go along with that sysyem be my guest. i feel sorrow for your lack of judgement and self decency. 

traching people lessons is a reasonable and adequate way to improve systems. everyone around where my home is, has stopped heafing over the central line which they persisted in before. 

im talking about the uturn when uturn trafgic is green, and the left turning traffic that will turn onto the uturn traffic. it should stop. the fact that everyone gives me this bull farang there are no rules is sad amd frankly disturbing. what about insurance police and codes. just because you have your experiences doesnt mean thays they way it is or should be. thankfully im not like all of you who except the staus quo of being a guest, whatever that means, and that peoole drive dangerously. you are also the problem not me, i dont just accept things and its so sad to see so many defeated people changing their habits. very sad.

36 minutes ago, seajae said:

left turn at a red light when allowed is ok but they still have to give way to the traffic with the green light doing the uturn(can only turn left when safe to do so), problem is most thai drivers dont like waiting or try to force their way through a turn. When we used to drop our daughter off at night school we had a turn like that when we had a green light, cars turning left with a red light would try to force their way but I would hit the horn and keep going, they expect others to stop for them  as many thais will, unfortunately for them I drive as the rules state. 

I did ask a tourist police officer and he agreed with me unofficially a year or so ago, I understand peoples attitudes to keeping ones head low, and staying out of trouble, but just like when they try to come onto my side of the road, or not stop for the car on their side, I am unable to see it that way and pursue with what makes sense to me. Im often seeing cars approach me half the car width over the central line, (and had one incident with a near fatal crash) expecting me to stop or move over so they dont scratch their car on plants. I remind them that the game of chicken the are wanting to play will end worse than a plant brushing your paint, and they have so far 100% of the time move back to their side(this is without the family inside of course). This is also the case for mopeds motorcycle drivers crossing solid lines to get past traffic, on my side every other (presumed) thai driver moves over, I do not.

Whilst many might see this as foolishness, (to which i can understand) they do it because they get away with it, and like children they need to be taught (unfortunately) that there are rules that their country set and they are as a national also responsible like every person in the country to abide. The idea that they can use im a thai person is unfortunately lost on me, and serves as no warning for how I will continue to live my life as a non thai who is apparently expected to be wrong simply for not being thai, that racism will not persist. Those that pay the cop do so (and thats fine forgive the pum) is not how I like to do things, I however think that penalizing tourists with a road traffic trap is not the best way to show tourists your country off to those you need to balance the books for revisits, why not hit the shops hiring the mopeds, (of course we know the answer)?

I will add, im frustrated for my fellow thai drivers who sit patiently scared of being first to act, for their brand new car or the terrifying ordeal of social awkwardness, to ensue. however with non of these ailments to my name or person I will fight for this junction and the green light and get rid of this BULLSCHMIDT nonsense. Thanks for everyones replies

1 hour ago, petermik said:

Apparently the new "Thai Highway Code Book" is in the process of being printed at this moment....due out on the 12th of never....until then proceed with caution on Thailands roads and never forget that a car flashing its lights does not mean "you first sir" but "out of the way I,m, coming through".........

Thanks, Ive been driving for a while. I do understand the nuances of how they drive, and it seems how a lot of non thais think can, also. But I would very much like to get my hands on that book, if anyone has a link or date for its release.

Regards

Im not someone who thinks that bribery or keeping your head down, best serves foreigners or thai people, I want to make the roads better for all people on it not just serve my self interest. Its dangerous and time consuming and simply knowing what is code would be of great help. Thank you

1 minute ago, Esso49 said:

Are you a foreigner ?  If so don't bother to take it further unless you are prepared to pay.

I will pursue, I dont care about this game of non thai or not, I would just like to know the code I have been well served by local policeman before and if im right and point out the codeLawyers come into play not small time stuff. Thank you

1 minute ago, Esso49 said:

Could you just confirm again that you are looking for a code of driving here ?   You do realise this is 

Thailand don't you ?

haha, yes I know but this is serious, because it gets very dangerous and often results in people getting very close so yes please official code so I can take it further if need be. I know that im right in practical driving thoery and traffic management but that doesnt mean im right in what is law or code. Thanks

Hi

I would just like to get some clarification from someone who knows what the actual ruling is on cross roads where, there is a u turn (it doesnt say you cant u turn at this junction). What happens is because red traffic can turn left like in the US I believe, cars will do this when the green light traffic is u-uturning stopping and holding up the u turn traffic. I would have thought common sense at least dictates the red traffic has to give way to green light traffic?

As is usual this doesnt happen and cars wait for the red light traffic to clear sometimes not letting any green car traffic turn.

I was just held up by a nonthai on his motorbike speeding round from the red light left turn, whilst trying to green light u uturn, he was sure he had right of way, shook his head(as all motorbikes do right or wrong) and sped off.

Can someone clear up this for me, does anyone know what is the actual legal or code of driving for Thailand in this situation, man thanks.

I have sorted out my consumer from a previous topic, and had great advice. I have just a few more questions.

A lot of pictures that Ive seen on here and have witnessed on my own consumer shows 2 sometimes 3 wires going into 1 mcb. Some people have said this is a ring circuit, from my own inspection of my own, it seems that people rather than connect on to the wires downstream when adding a radial circuit they just connect into the same MCB and its not a ring it terminates somewhere down the circuit and is not connected to the other. I had this unknowingly for about 2-3 years on 1 mcb for lights and 1 MCB for sockets.

Now im running out of space on my 18 mcb board, because of all the previous radials, and though Ive managed to join most further down the radial, logistically theres one I cant, is it ok If you know that the 2 radials arent connected to each other  and connect into the MCB together, or is it better to wire onto the end of the radial if possible but harder?

Thank you

6 hours ago, Pat in Pattaya said:

Very similar situation to me very recently so happy to help. I have a 9 year old who needed a renewed PP and a 6 year old for first time., and yes it is a pain and yes it is NOT clear what is required no matter what any smart Alec on here would say.

 

I'm 48 and married to a Thai so I assume the requirements will be the same? (I can't remember when it changed)

 

For renewal pp you ONLY need..

 

Filled out form

2 pics (one countersigned)

Old passport - THAT'S IT.

 

New Passport...

 

Filled out form

2 pics (one countersigned)

Full applicants British birth cert - stamped by ministry to show it is a certified copy (from the Thai cert)

You full British birth certiicate

Some kind of proof of address (this can be tricky)

 

You do not need photo ID, nor grandparents/parents birth certs, not do you need your marriage certificate or your wife's birth certificate. However, they did ask if I have a copy of my wife's ID card and my daughters Thai birth cert, so you should take both of them, and if both your kids have Thai passports you might as well take them to air on the side of safety, but I wasn't asked for picture ID.

 

PiP

 

 

 

 

Hi Pat, thank you for your reply.

When you say full aplicants british birth certificate, as they werent born in the UK do you mean as you go onto say thai birth translation?

Lastly, when you say proff of address you mean of the applicant, my son?

Thanks again

Thank to you both, That sounds great. If you read the supporting documents page, because im 35 and born after 1 jan 1983 it does say I need my parents birth certificates, but its not ticked in the page it does points to it.

anyway much appreciated