HardenedSoul

I wonder why you feel the need to explain yourself and antagonise others on numerous occasions. What you write makes sense sometimes.....only how you write it........sounds to me like some sort of anger inside you.

Live and let live.

Many come here to settle based on this quote. Some succeed, some don't.

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Stop talking soft, would you?

What exactly in the OP serves to antagonise? I've asked a series of questions, nothing more.

I freely admit that my life choices may not suit others but I don't slate marriage at all - my folks have been married for 54 years. Some make it work, some don't.

This is just a topic of discussion on an internet forum; it's not a blueprint for life, mate

You say live and let live as though the best way to deal with life's landmines is to just pretend they don't exist or things will just "work out".

PS. I wonder if someone said, "Live & let live" before you made your decision to have children with THAT woman. Maybe if you'd read a discussion on TV before doing so, you'd be in a much less precarious position now, wouldn't you?

Why would I need a personality overhaul? Look at Steve Jobs and how successful he was and yet a complete dick personality wise? ! And guess what? He had a beautiful wife, kids and billions of dollars.

You need one because then you might actually have a girl stay with you because she - you know - liked you

Frankly, it was your personality that was responsible for you being knocked back so much in the West.

I say this because I know a lot of less than aesthetically-perfect guys back in London who are with fantastic-looking wives and girlfriends.

You like to pretend your money compensates for the imagined limitations of your diminutive and folically challenged appearance but deep down inside, you weep each time a girl screws up her face and excuses herself the second you open your mouth.

Anyway, good luck, little man

OK. I read the thread you linked to.

So this guy's a little guy. He's a zero. He couldn't get it on with girls back home. He's come here and discovered women and sex.

But is he really so different from other "second-rate men" here on this forum?

My take is that he's going through a learning phase. He's doing things he's never done before. He's a bit overwhelmed by it all; he's a bit loud; he's a bit of a prat. And he wants to talk about it.

In due course he'll move on and work out what's what.

Hopefully he won't lose his money or end up marrying some peasant he can't even communicate with.

I guess everyone handles the "novelty" of unlimited tail differently but Whereustay, having been crushed by rejection after rejection back home, simply couldn't contain his delight and he's been boasting about it ever since.

42 isn't an age at which a man enters a learning phase like this and even if it was, it's surely not the age at which a man gushes about it on an anonymous internet forum

As far as marrying some peasant, I'm afraid he's way ahead of you. He's already been hosed by a local ex wife

I don't think this guy could be any more of a train wreck if he tried.

Moneyed or not, a he's not gonna turn a losing streak like that around without a major personality overhaul

If they ask for money, that will be the last time I see them. Sure, I take them out for a nice dinner, to a movie and whatever but I don't like the paid girlfriend crap.

BOOM!!

You've finally admitted that this the reason you're going through women like water here. They're asking you for money, you're refusing and you're getting sidelined.

You thought that in Thailand, every zero could be a hero. Every short, bald social misfit could live the dream. Well clearly you were right but your trouble is you can't just enjoy it like any normal guy; you have to try to evoke envy because that's what you felt back home when all the guys with a personality got the girls you wanted so badly and that is where and how you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I don't get your point.

Mr Whereustay dumps girls when they ask for cash.

Surely he's doing the right thing.

Why stay with a greedy bitch when she's only in it for the cash? Surely it's better just to nail 'em and forget 'em.

How tall is this guy, btw?

Ok well allow me to explain the point.

Mr. Whereustay in a long-running thread earlier this year cordially announced that he was done with the kind of girls that have to be compensated after a night or nights of passion. You can check it out out here

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/704761-getting-out-of-the-bargirl-isaan-dating-scene-feels-great/

He maintained he was graduating to non-paid company who "dated him because they liked him". He claims to have been going through them like a hot knife through butter since but it's only now he's admitted why.

He can't find a woman who wants to be with him for who he is because there's nothing behind mask. Just another wannabe alpha male who couldn't cut it in the West.

If they ask for money, that will be the last time I see them. Sure, I take them out for a nice dinner, to a movie and whatever but I don't like the paid girlfriend crap.

BOOM!!

You've finally admitted that this the reason you're going through women like water here. They're asking you for money, you're refusing and you're getting sidelined.

You thought that in Thailand, every zero could be a hero. Every short, bald social misfit could live the dream. Well clearly you were right but your trouble is you can't just enjoy it like any normal guy; you have to try to evoke envy because that's what you felt back home when all the guys with a personality got the girls you wanted so badly and that is where and how you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

The Chinese are arguably the oldest scammers in the world...goes back for centuries...where they mastered their craft...by scamming each other...passed on to the genes of the Thais when they migrated South from China...

Another Thaivisa pearl of wisdom.

You're a real quality guy, aren't you HD?

I can take or leave Whereustay's interminable trolling - sometimes it kills an hour or so but you? You're worse.

He's a wind up merchant but you; you're just a foul-mouthed grunt full to bursting with the kind of bile and hatred that oozes from every letter in every sentence in every post you make.

God help your wife

Oh, Mr. Toad and Heavy Drinker...welcome back. Just waiting on Hardened Soul to complete the angry/bitter party.

The complete hyprocrisy of their rants is that every time I have offered to meet them in person, they laugh and decline, then ridicule. Like the schoolyard bully that knows that one kid will kick his head in so he never quite goes too far as to expose his bluff.

Of course, should they meet me and realize I haven't been lying, would they actually post the truth here? Likely not. Face thing and all.

Actually, technically, I agree with the premise in your OP but not its intent.

Why would I care if you've been telling the truth or not? I'm impressed by personalities , charisma, substance. You, by your own admission, don't have any of that.

Why would I come on here and say, "Guess what? Whereustay's telling the truth. He''s got some dosh and he's seeing a few birds"?

I'm comfortably off and I'm seeing a few birds too but I don't feel the need to start a thread about it, do I?

Anyway, look:

I know you just want to be the guy with the prowess with women other guys envy or admire but you're not

I know you just want to be the guy with the kind of money other guys envy or admire but you're not

At your age, you should know better but you're still trying to be like the alpha males/jocks you so admired back home.

Trouble is, little man, the world's moved on.

Go back to Canada if you pay him ??!!

Bit of an over reaction, don't you think?

BTW, if you do pay him, you deserve to be put on your arse.

55% of the women in the world have arranged marriages with a 6% divorce rate. Based on percent I guess arranged marriages would be normal. I think what you are writing about is your culture which I don't think we are in right now are we? First comes marriage then comes love I believe is the norm world wide for the majority.

Guess you don' believe in freedom of the individual or in this case... women.

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Where do you get from my post that I favor or don't favor anything? Max you are making things up. If you want to ask my opinion I'll give it to you though.

I have had two arranged marriages. The first was arranged by a father with a shotgun and the second was arranged by a father with a shotgun, I don't like arranged marriages. I don't care anything about sexist stuff. People is people. I don't like arranged marriages for men or women.

Now on the other hand if you were asking if most of the world has arranged marriages, well yes they do. My like or dislike of the concept has never been asked for.

TLT is correct, posters continually hold up western ideals and morality as the norm, or the majority.

In reality the western world is the minority way, about 17% of the world population.

Most of the world are from the Asian and Indian continents.

It's a classic self-serving argument, isn't it?

It's nothing to do with ideals. It's just another way the more odious and depraved among us use to justify the fact that they can get away with what they do out here.

Look at any images or media in popular youth culture in Asia then come back to tell us how many of them suggest that their ideal scenario is one in which young women open their legs for lecherous old fossils with their parents' blessing.

You guys are so full of it, all I can do is laugh at you.

You can't get a metered taxi during the DAY on soi 4! Reporting them does nothing. I'd walk a kilometre in 334 degrees rather than hire most BKK taxis.

Yes you can. I get metered taxis all day long in that area.

Among Farang marrying Thai women? I don't know. Do you? I would think in the majority of mixed marriages it is the parents wish the daughter marry a rich Farang (not all but a majority). So, similar to an arranged marriage but by type as opposed to specific person. I would imagine the older the better for such a union.

This is what I mean about you . . . you just make this shit up as you go along, don't you?

You're trying to insinuate that "arranged marriages" - in the context most of us understand them - are the norm here between FARANG and Thai and they're not.

Most farang who come here for brides haven't negotiated with their potential acquisition's parents from afar and you bloody well know it.

Honestly, there is no length to which you won't go to justify what you did or still do (without your wife's knowledge, I'd imagine), is there?

Your credibility, such as it ever was, is stretched beyond belief

You obviously have not seen any of the many "dating/ marriage ads on this very page, where extremely attractive and obviously in their 20s women are seeking men "up to 60". Seems pretty normal for that segment of the population.

There is nothing sexier to a 20 year old Thai woman than a 60+ year old man.

In fact..70+ really gets them going.

Totally normal yep

55% of the women in the world have arranged marriages with a 6% divorce rate. Based on percent I guess arranged marriages would be normal. I think what you are writing about is your culture which I don't think we are in right now are we? First comes marriage then comes love I believe is the norm world wide for the majority.

What percentage of those are characterised by a 40 or 50 year age gap?

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Quite overwhelming this is, the pattern that has been emerging, and is now soon, so pathetic that it's actually gone far enough to be used in valid statistics!

I would like re quote your own quote which is which says it all, "iq , forum members and TV" ! Of-course this isn't even a quote, just a "keep on digging your own grave", if I'm allowed to make up "a game I like to play", exept mine is based on actually I.Q.! Yours is of-course, more and more sadly the case of the opposite!

If you still don't understand the traps you keep falling into, and a hint here and there, being "to unkind". Is an understatement in a dillusional way!

I don't think you are stupid, Laura, but as you r called here "Dr,Laura", you are , I'm sorry to say NOT!

And here again I will use my more polite way of saying "irony is bitch"!

I'm plugging on my phone, and actually I will not be going through the whole threads which reeks of who I now refer to " The Infamous Dr.(not) case"!! 55555555!

Oh, I guess I could be bothered to plug just a bit more, again re-quoting someone who said something which says it all , and for once this guy has a pretty reputable and respectfully reputation of the definition of IQ, "someone who repeats the same mistake over and over EXPECTING ANOTHER RESULT, when keep up doing it, is the definition of insanity! AGAIN! And if still the good Dr. Hasn't understood , must I really go fetch my p.c, to make it easier to do this plugging?

P.S. Any moderators, you are more than welcome to delete and etc, but I'm actually for individuals, both for those not understanding , are just naive and I should mention anyone who might have a personality disorder to

kind to be doing it!

And again, WOW! "Irony IS a bitch"!

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Writing "555555555" and laughing at your own "jokes" doesn't make what you have to say funny. Honest.

You've tried awfully hard to be cryptic and witty but you've just tied yourself up in knots.

Misfiring synapses, perhaps?

Put the bong down

Had a similar problem myself a little while ago.

Fixed it myself without getting involved with data recovery businesses.

Check out the thread here.

You might find something useful.

I downloaded EaseUS Data recovery software and that might be enough for you.

My issue went one step further with the actual hardware being encrypted.

In the end, I flipped Western Digital the bird for suggesting I pay one of their DR services the best part of $1,000 and recovered my data in its entirety for the princely sum of $50 by ordering a part from these guys http://parts.com.hk/1/

Dear Lara,

How many options do you think a man of 50+ (or 60+) has for a fulfilling life in the western world with an attractive female companion?

(Conversely, how many options for a 50+ female in the west to find a fulfilling life with an attractive man?)

Most of the over 50s I see (including myself) do not look attractive as sexual partners for me.

Come to think of it, most of the over 50s I have met (in the west) seem to live for their grandchildren, or are waiting to die. I haven't seen any of them having fulfilling lives. Generally, for the average Joe, it sucks to be over 50 in the west. Guess you aren't there yet.

An older guy can still attract and retain the interest of younger women in the West without a million dollars in the bank if he's not bitter and keeps himself in reasonable shape.

I was 50 when I left the West. No trouble finding good looking women. Mine were 18, 34 and 51. Had a problem with the 18 year old's father. I got tired of the hassle and came to Thailand. America is a decent place for an older guy to find a woman. Not much competition.

Forty years ago America’s (and the UK and Australia) young men were the envy of the world. There was nothing they couldn’t do, nowhere they weren’t sought – due in no small part to the role played by Western men throughout the world as World War II soldiers and post-war peacekeepers and nation-builders, at home and abroad. By 1965, they had it all – health, education, character, pride, intelligence, bravery, vision, responsibility, you name it.

http://invincibleprobity.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/why-are-american-men-so-dumb/

Thanks for that link ( or perhaps not, as I've been up till 4am reading it ). Food for thought indeed, though my opinions have mirrored his for many years.

Every man thinking of getting married should be required to read his article about it.

Well I've been called all manner of names by several forum members for swerving marriage.

In their eyes, you're not a real man until you've tossed your fortunes - financial and emotional - with a woman and then paid a shark to get you out of it with just enough to buy a ticket to Thailand.

Whatever happened to learning from the mistakes of others?

Dear Lara,

How many options do you think a man of 50+ (or 60+) has for a fulfilling life in the western world with an attractive female companion?

(Conversely, how many options for a 50+ female in the west to find a fulfilling life with an attractive man?)

Most of the over 50s I see (including myself) do not look attractive as sexual partners for me.

Come to think of it, most of the over 50s I have met (in the west) seem to live for their grandchildren, or are waiting to die. I haven't seen any of them having fulfilling lives. Generally, for the average Joe, it sucks to be over 50 in the west. Guess you aren't there yet.

An older guy can still attract and retain the interest of younger women in the West without a million dollars in the bank if he's not bitter and keeps himself in reasonable shape.

Are you seriously saying that a 65 year old guy ( that does not have the money of Mick Jagger or Hugh Heffner ) in the west can have a sexual relationship with an attractive 20 year old female?

Maybe not but why the hell do they have to be 20 years old?

There are untold attractive, fit 40 year old birds around in the West.

They're not all heifers like you jokers make out.

Dear Lara,

How many options do you think a man of 50+ (or 60+) has for a fulfilling life in the western world with an attractive female companion?

(Conversely, how many options for a 50+ female in the west to find a fulfilling life with an attractive man?)

Most of the over 50s I see (including myself) do not look attractive as sexual partners for me.

Come to think of it, most of the over 50s I have met (in the west) seem to live for their grandchildren, or are waiting to die. I haven't seen any of them having fulfilling lives. Generally, for the average Joe, it sucks to be over 50 in the west. Guess you aren't there yet.

An older guy can still attract and retain the interest of younger women in the West without a million dollars in the bank if he's not bitter and keeps himself in reasonable shape.

 I still keep abreast of UK matters, and I see very encouraging ECONOMIC signs for the future. Things will 'get back to normal' within a couple of years.

"Normal"??

Choice between soaring repossessions and a 50% crash in property values and everything built on the consumer spending those property values support

OR

Rampant inflation as the Bank of England tries to suppress interest rates by buying every gilt-edged security in existence

The BoE's near-zero interest rate policies and QE insulated an awful lot of people from what should have been a far more destructive reset of the economy.

It should have been like the US real estate crash but, instead, everyone's mortgage got cheaper 

The can has been kicked down the road.

It'll be spectacular when the government and the central bank catch up to it again

Yeah but he sounds much happier in the West, doesn't he.

Maybe it wasn't just about him

I think it makes sense to learn at least a bit of the language, adopt whatever local customs you feel comfortable with whilst respecting the rest, and not get all hung up and bent out of shape about whether the Thai people love you or just 'tolerate' you.

Quite right although i sometimes think that this is all an extension of the insecurity some feel over being liked, spoken to and tolerated solely because of their money.

It's a weird one

So many genuinely believe that greater wealth ought to positively guarantee fawning, sycophantic respect and loyalty from the locals lower down the wealth stakes.

Interminable allusions to the amount of money they contribute to the economy, the dirt poor family and the soi dog they willingly adopted and dutifully maintain and the fact they're not lining up for state handouts (as if there are any) are present within any number of threads on this forum.

I mean if a rich Thai bloke turned up in England with a bit of wedge, hooked up with a single mum of 4 from a Thamesmead housing estate and bought a house, he might be able to get a passport and indefinite leave to remain if he played it right.

Indeed, the government would even call him a British citizen but would the British people?

You're the one who needs pills, gramps

Ah, but back "home" where sex is allegedly "free" if a western "girlfriend" doesn't sleep with her "boyfriend" for any reason, she won't be the "girlfriend" for long, LOL.

More nonsense from you

"For any reason"??!!

Seriously??

I'm stunned you didn't retire here a virgin.