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MikeandDow

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  1. If pita does not get his finger out and start fighting their is a real possibility, MF is not liked by very powerfull people who do not want to see MF in power
  2. Would not forget him just yet, he is liked by very powerfull people who wish for him to stay, all this was planned a long time ago, The EC was appointed by the Junta and will always find something to question based on their "interpretation" of the rules. Moreover, they'll take their sweet time in doing so against an opposition candidate as every day after the election goes by, the sense of momentum of the winning, Pro-Democracy side wanes just a little. Finally, after they have done their best to blunt a sense of momentum, they'll refer the case to the NACC "out of an abundance of caution", delay delay caretaker goverment all ok, can see this going on for a long time building up evidence against MF. There are a lot of very powerfull people who do not like MF and who do not care about the Thai people or what they want.
  3. long read, definitely worth a read, think there is a lot going on behind closed doors
  4. 100% correct, It is amazing that 1 man can stop the formation of a elected goverment, but the thai's will just do nothing, have no sympathy as they voted in this constitution.
  5. Totally agree, but like to see him Pita fight more rather that sit back
  6. The thai people voted for this constitution, Power in Thailand isn't given, it is taken. If Pita and the Pro-Democracy side want to govern, they need to start fighting back, and quickly. Leaks about the EC members and their pre-election overseas trips and perks, point out the ridiculousness of involving the Senate, discreetly organize street demos, start making public statements about how stupid the process is, etc. Political power is an ephemeral thing as it is rarely measured, The vast majority of time, political power exists simply because people think you have it. Conversely, if people don't think you have it, you don't have it. If Pita wants to be PM, he needs to fight like hell now while he has the afterglow of a Democratic election. If he sits back and allows himself to be belittled, judged and insulted by his foes, his power will evaporate before he even uses it. Politics 101 is define your opponent before he can define himself. All that is happing at the moment he is sitting back.
  7. MF Won the Election,Now they have the right to form a Goverment any which way they can, I think you will find in Democracy the winner of an election forms a goverment, but here that is not the case one man can stop the formation of an elected goverment, this is NOT democracy, unfortunately Thailand will never have a democracy it will allway be run by the elite/military. Also find it strange that you think the winning Party of an election irrelevant strange !!!!!
  8. think you need to read the news a lot more being nominated in the us election, but this is going off topic and against forum rules
  9. Did not say the west is going to lecture Thailand,but yes the west is laughting at how gullable the Thai people are,
  10. And all this will take time, Pita is playing into Payut hands, Delay,Delay,Delay
  11. military Thailand is NOT a Democracy, it is ruled by the Elite/Military, People around the world are watching and laughing, so Thailand does not need to worry about credibility, it has none, remeber the Thai people voted for this constitution.
  12. The process is clear as day. "Concerns" will be raised. Bull<deleted> rules and regulations will be cited. "Doubts" will be cast. "Questions" will be asked. In August , approximately four months after the election, when the momentum from the election has worn off and the leading candidate or candidates from the opposition side have been tarnished in the name of "making sure everything is correct", then they will decide if they want the tarnished candidate or they decide that "more investigations" are needed to "ensure fairness" and muddy it up further. This is all by design and was planned a few years ago. Power in Thailand isn't given, it is taken. If Pita and the Pro-Democracy side want to govern, they need to start fighting back, and quickly. Leaks about the EC members and their pre-election overseas trips and perks, point out the ridiculousness of involving the Senate, discreetly organize street demos, start making public statements about how stupid the process is, etc. Political power is an ephemeral thing as it is rarely measured, The vast majority of time, political power exists simply because people think you have it. Conversely, if people don't think you have it, you don't have it. If Pita wants to be PM, he needs to fight like hell now while he has the afterglow of a Democratic election. If he sits back and allows himself to be belittled, judged and insulted by his foes, his power will evaporate before he even uses it. Politics 101 is define your opponent before he can define himself. This was always going to occur; that was decided when the Junta wrote the current constitution. The question is simple; is the Pro-Democracy side going to fight? I dont think anything will happen, it will drag on and on , excuse after excuse, the caretaker govement will do anything to stay in power, Thai's need to rise up no need for violence, general strike, show the caretaker goverment they cannot do anything with out the people.
  13. Thai election laws, like virtually all Thai laws, always have some vagueness so that they can be "interpreted" (anyone ever visit Thai immigration?). The EC was appointed by the Junta and will always find something to question based on their "interpretation" of the rules. Moreover, they'll take their sweet time in doing so against an opposition candidate as every day after the election goes by, the sense of momentum of the winning, Pro-Democracy side wanes just a little. Finally, after they have done their best to blunt a sense of momentum, they'll refer the case to the NACC "out of an abundance of caution. The process is clear as day. "Concerns" will be raised. Bull<deleted> rules and regulations will be cited. "Doubts" will be cast. "Questions" will be asked. In August , approximately four months after the election, when the momentum from the election has worn off and the leading candidate or candidates from the opposition side have been tarnished in the name of "making sure everything is correct", then they will decide if they want the tarnished candidate or they decide that "more investigations" are needed to "ensure fairness" and muddy it up further. This is all by design and was planned a few years ago. Power in Thailand isn't given, it is taken. If Pita and the Pro-Democracy side want to govern, they need to start fighting back, and quickly. Leaks about the EC members and their pre-election overseas trips and perks, point out the ridiculousness of involving the Senate, discreetly organize street demos, start making public statements about how stupid the process is, etc. Political power is an ephemeral thing as it is rarely measured, The vast majority of time, political power exists simply because people think you have it. Conversely, if people don't think you have it, you don't have it. If Pita wants to be PM, he needs to fight like hell now while he has the afterglow of a Democratic election. If he sits back and allows himself to be belittled, judged and insulted by his foes, his power will evaporate before he even uses it
  14. Does this corruption ever stop in Thailand, corruption Hub of Asia, Its Your Tax payers money
  15. Whoever was elected by the Pro-Democracy side was always going to be "investigated" by the EC; it wouldn't have mattered the slightest if it were Pita, Thaksin's daughter or the other PT Prime Minister nominees, anyone else from MF, or anyone backed by these parties. This was all designed and written into the Junta constitution; the Military/Establishment side in Thai politics knows that they are unable to win a fair or fair-ish election, so they added poison pills. The EC. Thai election laws, like virtually all Thai laws, always have some vagueness so that they can be "interpreted" (anyone ever visit Thai immigration?). The EC was appointed by the Junta and will always find something to question based on their "interpretation" of the rules. Moreover, they'll take their sweet time in doing so against an opposition candidate as every day after the election goes by, the sense of momentum of the winning, Pro-Democracy side wanes just a little. Finally, after they have done their best to blunt a sense of momentum, they'll refer the case to the NACC "out of an abundance of caution" so that the new PM will be referred to as the "under investigation (insert name)". Next is the NACC. The NACC will conduct a "fair and complete" investigation and take their sweet time about it in order to continue the policy of blunting momentum and casting aspersions on the Pro-Democracy side. Hmm... isn't Prawit's former aide still Head of the NACC? After the NACC, the Constitution Court will weigh in. Remember them? The ones who decided that an army regulation superseded the Constitution so that Prayut could live rent-free on an army base? The Senate. Since you all know about the Junta-appointed Senate, I won't waste my time. The process is clear as day. "Concerns" will be raised. Bull<deleted> rules and regulations will be cited. "Doubts" will be cast. "Questions" will be asked. In August , approximately four months after the election, when the momentum from the election has worn off and the leading candidate or candidates from the opposition side have been tarnished in the name of "making sure everything is correct", then they will decide if they want the tarnished candidate or they decide that "more investigations" are needed to "ensure fairness" and muddy it up further. This is all by design and was planned a few years ago. Power in Thailand isn't given, it is taken. If Pita and the Pro-Democracy side want to govern, they need to start fighting back, and quickly. Leaks about the EC members and their pre-election overseas trips and perks, point out the ridiculousness of involving the Senate, discreetly organize street demos, start making public statements about how stupid the process is, etc. Political power is an ephemeral thing as it is rarely measured, The vast majority of time, political power exists simply because people think you have it. Conversely, if people don't think you have it, you don't have it. If Pita wants to be PM, he needs to fight like hell now while he has the afterglow of a Democratic election. If he sits back and allows himself to be belittled, judged and insulted by his foes, his power will evaporate before he even uses it. Politics 101 is define your opponent before he can define himself. This was always going to occur; that was decided when the Junta wrote the current constitution. The question is simple; is the Pro-Democracy side going to fight?
  16. Yes they turned out to vote and they want the elites/military government out. But look whats haping now A <deleted> show, The elites/military are now fighting back and winning, this is making Thailand a laughing stock world wide, the average thai does not care he has voted and thats it enjoy the show

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