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The OP wrote, "As far as gold California produces more than Thailand has in country. So what's is it based on? Lies?"

Now what was the intent and/or real question by the OP? First he is not accurate. California produced about 1603 kg in 2007 Thailand 3401 kg.

Thailand has more gold reserves than Singapore, Sweden, Australia, Denmark and Finland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserve

Gold consumption in Thailand, the biggest user in Asia after China and India, expanded 73 percent to 140.1 tons last year, according to World Gold Council data. Imports were higher than local consumption in 2013 as some bullion was re-exported, including jewelry.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-18/gold-appetite-shrinks-in-thailand-amid-political-deadlock.html

Thailand has 6000 gold shops.

The government of Thailand does not back the currency with gold.

What is one big attraction of Thai gold for citizens? it can be simply traded for cash at any gold store. It's just a matter of taking your gold into any gold store, (preferably the one you bought it from), and with a minimum of fuss, it will be bought back for cash - no questions asked.

My conclusion is that gold is used in Thailand as a store of value and by some as a currency.

The OP's question is the Thai currency based on lies? The Thai currency can be exchanged for gold at the going global rate very easily at any time in Thailand.

The OP also wrote, " There is no real industry other than rice commodity"

Nonsense, as Thailand is the largest manufacturer of hard drives in world and one of top ten producers of autos and automotive parts.

I don't believe there are any countries currencies that are backed by gold or silver anymore perhaps the OP could tell us what the currency of his country is based on? I think the OP is using backed and based synonymously.

The original post was indeed a load of rubbish. Agriculture (or perhaps just rice, I can't remember) accounts for only around 6% of GDP so the OP has no clue what he is talking about. I think the largest contribution to GDP is made by the manufacturers of automotive transporters, or so I read somewhere.

We will all die.

Some deaths are fast, such as an acute MI (heart attack), and some slow such as cancer.

I think it is wise to maintain ties to a "home country" just in case we anticipate a slow death.

Thailand, with its history of opiate abuse seems to have a pathological fear of opiates which seems to extend to end-of-life care. (Read: Intense suffering = give them acetaminophen not opiates.)

Having done nursing hospice (end-of-life, palliative care) where the objective is a dignified, comfortable death I have seen where access to opiates makes a very comfortable and very dignified/relaxed exit. Without them, it is something quite else indeed.

Perhaps in 15 or twenty years Thailand will relax opiate end-of-life pharmacology to give those dieing in a painful manner, a comfortable end, but in the meantime, I suggest that if you anticipate a painful end (bone cancer, etc.) keep a link to move back to quality end-of-life palliative (care designed to relieve suffering) care, and you'll probably not find it in Thailand.

This is a generalization of course. and over time doctors may realize that opiates are appropriate for end-of-life. But the legal view of opiates versus a doctor's enlightened view may be quite different.

This wasn't true in the case I witnessed, where the patient was prescribed as much morphine as necessary to dull the pain and died relatively peacefully at home.

In general, he is right though. It is almost impossible for many people to get opiates to fight pain in Thailand. It is almost barbaric.

Well, I haven't seen that in my time here. My gf was prescribed codeine just the other day for a minor complaint so they don't seem to have a problem with opiates.....

Perhaps government and private hospitals have different policies or are you talking about the entire medical profession in Thailand?

last time martial law, there was a curfew that wasn't enforced. Everything else was normal.

I thought that was only when a state of emergency was declared.

We will all die.

Some deaths are fast, such as an acute MI (heart attack), and some slow such as cancer.

I think it is wise to maintain ties to a "home country" just in case we anticipate a slow death.

Thailand, with its history of opiate abuse seems to have a pathological fear of opiates which seems to extend to end-of-life care. (Read: Intense suffering = give them acetaminophen not opiates.)

Having done nursing hospice (end-of-life, palliative care) where the objective is a dignified, comfortable death I have seen where access to opiates makes a very comfortable and very dignified/relaxed exit. Without them, it is something quite else indeed.

Perhaps in 15 or twenty years Thailand will relax opiate end-of-life pharmacology to give those dieing in a painful manner, a comfortable end, but in the meantime, I suggest that if you anticipate a painful end (bone cancer, etc.) keep a link to move back to quality end-of-life palliative (care designed to relieve suffering) care, and you'll probably not find it in Thailand.

This is a generalization of course. and over time doctors may realize that opiates are appropriate for end-of-life. But the legal view of opiates versus a doctor's enlightened view may be quite different.

This wasn't true in the case I witnessed, where the patient was prescribed as much morphine as necessary to dull the pain and died relatively peacefully at home.

Yea, try another pen...I have experienced the same problem numerous times when I get my new debit/credit cards...it's just the pen. Some pens are just cheap and won't write worth a durn on some surfaces like slick surfaces. And don't use one of those pens where the ink flows out thick as it won't dry properly/fast enough and then your signature will smear when touching the card/sliding it in your wallet. Heck, one time I used such a pen that allowed too much ink to flow while signing the card, my signature got smeared, but I just used some isopropyl alcohol on a tisse to clean the signature off before the ink dried...then I found another pen to use and resigned.

You left your job because your signature got smudged?!

I doubt you'll notice any difference

My girls Son is same age and same attitude. He stays with his Grandmother not with us. He was supposed to go live with his Dad but refused.

Problem is he has not had a Dad in his life to discipline when required and he wont go to his Dads as he knows he cant just do as he pleases as with his Mother and Grand mother.

I wouldnt take a kid on like that especially if you dont have the Mothers FULL support.

If i were in your position i would just load up my truck and drive off into the sunset.

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he wont go to his Dads as he knows he cant just do as he pleases as with his Mother and Grand mother.

Why should he go, the kid has already sussed out where he is on the totem pole of Thai society and upbringing.

The Thai father wouldnt stand for such nonsense so why should the farang?

Me thinks the farang love her mak mak.

Pack up and leave.

For all others reading this, DO NOT get involved with a Thai woman with a male child in tow.

Right, do not get involved with any of them period,just a domestic servant ,well paid one, but a servant.

Can you clarify who you are referring to when you say, "any of them?"

Why not just buy a multi-effects box for an electric guitar if you're going to spend that much? They only cost around 5000 baht and have an electronic metronome. Of course, if you're playing an acoustic instrument I suppose it would be a bit of a waste but I wouldn't pay 12,000 Baht for something that just makes a ticking noise.

Because there is nothing like the rich, warm sound of a precision metronome made in Germany from hard wood like walnut or mahogany; simple. The electronic ones make a horrible sterile tone. This is especially true if the signal is amplified and played in your ears many hours a day.

If you say so. I can barely hear the metronome when I use it. It's just there in the background when I'm practicing certain techniques.

As IMHO says, why not contact Silverstone directly, especially so if HWH is being evasive -- if they HWH gave you an RMA# you'd probably never see the item ever again.

Silverstone Technology

Warranty Conditions | Contact Us | Where to Buy THAILAND

A third alternative: I see that InvadeIT and J.I.B. is on their list... Try contacting one of them and ask for a company contact for warranty repair. Hopefully you still have the original purchase receipt or this could be a frustrating trip.

I don't think a receipt will be needed. Whenever I have to return stuff these days they just input the serial number in their system and can check the purchase date themselves.

I have no direct experience with Silverstone Technology product nor how they handle returned parts for repair -- I only included the Warranty Conditions link because item #5 stated the requirement for a sales receipt or invoice with clear indication of purchase date to determine warranty eligibility. If a warranty card was filled in and sent back it may also, as you indicate, be enough to fulfill the eligibility requirement.

Never filled a warranty card out in my life but with monitors and other IT equipment I've returned I haven't had a problem yet. I only mentioned it to point out that all may not be lost if the OP did not keep his receipt.

You could make the same argument for oil or any number of widely traded commodities but it doesn't follow that those commodities in any way back the currencies with which you can buy them. The price for gold is the same in most countries because if it differed by even a small amount (government restrictions on the buying of gold in some countries notwithstanding) those who practice arbitrage would soon close the price gap.

As soon as SheungWan is safely aboard the Starship Enterprise, I shall be joining him.

you re right

I wont let my life run by a kid.

not now. not tomorrow, never so bye bye

do what your want somewhere els seems the only solution by now.

no computer. no internet. no allowense and no delicious food

no travel by car no holliday not play soccer.

no more luxury lifestyle

Do you speak to the son in Thai or English?

Why not just buy a multi-effects box for an electric guitar if you're going to spend that much? They only cost around 5000 baht and have an electronic metronome. Of course, if you're playing an acoustic instrument I suppose it would be a bit of a waste but I wouldn't pay 12,000 Baht for something that just makes a ticking noise.

Perhaps its a case of form over function.

Lots of people like items to be fashionable/attractive, dare I say beautiful.......

The world is full of baby grand pianos with metronomes and brass candle holders that never get used.

Sure, if that's the case no worries. I'm only interested in the functionality myself.

As IMHO says, why not contact Silverstone directly, especially so if HWH is being evasive -- if they HWH gave you an RMA# you'd probably never see the item ever again.

Silverstone Technology

Warranty Conditions | Contact Us | Where to Buy THAILAND

A third alternative: I see that InvadeIT and J.I.B. is on their list... Try contacting one of them and ask for a company contact for warranty repair. Hopefully you still have the original purchase receipt or this could be a frustrating trip.

I don't think a receipt will be needed. Whenever I have to return stuff these days they just input the serial number in their system and can check the purchase date themselves.

Why not just buy a multi-effects box for an electric guitar if you're going to spend that much? They only cost around 5000 baht and have an electronic metronome. Of course, if you're playing an acoustic instrument I suppose it would be a bit of a waste but I wouldn't pay 12,000 Baht for something that just makes a ticking noise.

What is the tipping etiquette in Thailand....tip or not, how much and how do you do it?

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This is an interesting question (to me at least!) I always felt like I ought to tip but whenever I did in basic barber's shops (the kind that charge 40-60 baht for a haircut) I got the impression that the barbers were slightly insulted rather than pleased. In the type of shops that charge 250 baht ++ and cater to foreigners they may well pretend that it is the norm in Thailand but I'm fairly certain it isn't.

@ Beng For a simple clipper cut I can't tell the difference between a 40 baht shop and a 100 baht shop (in terms of the results) so I'd choose the former if I still used barbers / hairdressers.

My gf has finally come to terms with the drop in social status that hooking up with me entailed. Or so she tells me anyway.

Singha

I should leave then. I only qualify on two points: being able to drink for 16 hours at a stretch and offering unsolicited advice. I'm working on the age bit though and I'm sure the rest will follow soon.

EDIT: 3 points - i just checked in the mirror and I'm a white man!

Precious metals have been used as a form of money for thousands of years, this is true and perhaps pertinent to what you are trying to say. But I still think you are a little confused. For instance, if tomorrow I can get more gold with my Baht, I cannot simply assume that the value of the Baht has increased. I would have to look at other factors to see whether in fact, it was the value of gold that had decreased.

When the dollar was backed by gold, governments had the right to redeem dollars for gold at a set rate of exchange, whenever they wished. You have no such rights when trying to exchange your Baht for gold because the Baht is not backed by gold. The other point to bear in mind is that the amount of gold you receive for your Baht is not fixed and can change from day to day, for the same reason.

Any music shop, there are too many to list these days they are just electric click devices, but they work. Try Pol music across from Chedi hotel or the shop on Moon Muang between soi 1 and 2 or near there, If you want to make it real simple just google metronome online and use your 'puter as your 'nome

I've done that but they tend to go out of time every so often, which can be annoying.

I think the clue is in the name of the television channel - BBC World News. You're not sitting in the UK watching the 6 O' Clock News.

Until I was 30ish I loved London but then I grew to hate it. My employer never let me down and is the reason I can afford to retire comfortably in Thailand. I have family in the UK but I cannot say we are very close now. I have a girlfriend in Thailand with a daughter (not mine) and have decided to devote the rest of my life (I am 63 now) to the daughter's well being because although we are not the same blood I love her and feel I am the only hope in her life. At the moment I have no desire to return to the UK but I hope Thailand does not go the same way London did.

I will always love London. It's where I came into this world and if I have to leave, it's where I would choose to be at the time.

I agree with the OP's sentiments on this topic, which is quite astounding because unless I am mixing Neeranam up with somebody else, I don't think that's ever happened before.

Read what I wrote not what you imagine I wrote. "The price of gold bars are the same everywhere and pegged to the dollar or any other currency you want to buy at that time of sale. I can buy gold in Thailand with dollars or baht or many other currencies no problem.

All currencies are pegged to the price of gold at the time of the quote." At the time of the sale, man or lady. At the time of the sale. Today at 12 noon the price of gold is the same for anyone wishing to buy it in this time zone.

I read what you wrote, not what I imagined you wrote. Unfortunately, as Naam has already pointed out, you have no idea what you are saying.

I don't think anybody is being pedantic. In the context of this thread, I fail to see the relevance of the fact that you can exchange dollars or any other currency for gold in a shop.

"What has government done to our money?" is a good read for anybody that wants a greater understanding of the subject and can be found for free on-line. I enjoyed it anyway.