thaistudent2000

resurrection of Asianfrog?.

give a look:

http://flylah.com/flying-academies/topic116.html#p1019

About TBM FA

Paperwork is still on-going but as it should be finished shortly, I am authorised to unveil some specific features about TBM FA, (unofficially), before our official marketing campaign starts: FlyLah… you have the very first information (before the Press).

As we are wearing the prestigious name of our chairman, Y.T.M. Tengku Baderul Zaman ibni al-Marhum Sultan Mahmud, we can only be ….excellent.

We are different from other schools in many aspects;

• From day one, we are going to train Fixed Wings and Helicopter cadet pilots

• We are going to be fully "JAR", because DCA has requested it, but mainly, because it is also our approach toward the excellence in Training.

 Fully JAR means "Ground but also Flight Training compliant with JAR".

• Our Flying syllabus is going to be richer than the DCA minimum requirements, because we respect the JAR standards but also because we are preparing the students to be a professional Airline Pilot or Offshore Helicopter Pilot-, - we are not preparing only to a License examination- . More, as the worldwide most advanced schools, we are introducing a training on "Unusual attitudes Recovery", with the support of an Aerobatic Aircraft: we are choosing the safest aerobatic aircraft, the Extra 300L.

• As option, we are offering 35 hours MCC / ELT training on a FNPT II MCC AIRBUS A320. It is an option as some Airlines would prefer to do by themselves during the initial Type Rating. But the Self Sponsored students targeting to join some Airlines with A320 as entry Airliner will have a definitive plus in their training.

• Our prices will remain in the same range than our competitors for a very different quality of training.

• Our team, Ground and Flying, is exceptional in Malaysia: a team of very experienced professionals, flyers coming from renowned JAR schools. The "Groundies" are currently training on the JAR syllabus, and this, since several years. Legendary instructors are coming back in Malaysia: yes, few years ago, they have already trained hundredth(s) of MAS and Air Asia Cadets (today their former students are Commanders or close to be….). Yes, we are back, with a JAR experience and we are bringing JAR Top Flyers in our luggage. A consistent team: Ground and Flight…..

• For Helicopter Students: after the CPL/IR (H) the Helicopter training is heading to the "Offshore Rating". We will be the only school to propose such training in this part of the world. We are not going to use the possibility to train on fixed wings before helicopter. From day one, in the Flying school, you will fly helicopter. Our fleet will comprise proven, efficient and safe trainers like the Enstrom 280 Fx, Enstrom 480B. The helicopter flying team comprises very experienced Malaysian helicopter Flight instructors.

• We have already gotten the guarantee that some cadets will be sponsored. Too early, to unveil the sponsor as the conditions are not yet inked (this applies to fixed wings and helicopter)…

• We are purchasing a fleet of professional trainers (aircraft 4 seats as per international Standards, at European IFR standard, engines running with fully approved Civil Aviation fuels, with the possibility to be considered as Public transport- requirement of some Civil Aviation Authorities-). We exclude the light airplanes two seaters, with C of G and MOGAS issues, …. At the beginning, our fleet is going to be limited (6 DA40, 2 DA42 NG, 1 Extra 300L, 2 Enstrom 280FX, 2 ENSTROM 480B or BELL 206), (On the simulator side, 4 Simulators: FNPT I-DA40, FNPT II-DA42, FNPTII- ENSTROM 480 or BELL206, FNPT II MCC- A320).

 Consequently for 2009/2010, we are limiting the number of cadets to 12 fixed wings and 4 Helicopter per batch, with one intake every two months.

• The duration of the syllabus should be 70 working weeks (around 74 Calendar weeks) without MCC/ELT training. (To add 6 weeks for the MCC/ELT)

• Taking into account our experienced team, with a CFI already used to manage yearly 250 cadets in a JAR Flying school (and delivering them "ON TIME" to a worldwide first class Airlines): lagging is not on our agenda.

• The training of LAME (licensed Aircraft maintenance Engineer) JAR 66 will be developed in 2010.

• On the maintenance side,…we are supported by "MyCopter Aviation Services" with whom we have special relations as we share… some shareholders….

We expect to launch the campaign of recruitment in July for a selection in August, with hopefully a first intake in the last quarter of 2009.

I cannot answer to individual questions as our team is still very limited and we are very –very-busy by a huge amount of paperwork. However if interested to join us in the last quarter of 2009, you can already send an E-Mail to : [email protected]

Again, we are not yet ready to answer personal questions but we will re- contact you when we will be launching the recruitment/selection of cadets.

Yours Sincerely

Terengganu01

blablabla !!!!!!!!!!!

asianfrog, we are sick of your megalomania !!! What's wrong with you?

the french dictator is gone....let's celebrate!

I would like to hear the comment of asian frog on this.

congratulation to IAC to have kicked this "weakest link" out of the university.

I wish them good luck, and happy flying!

(I hope now they will accept more students, and not only cadets).

an interesting question would be :"how much money IAC will lose in 2009???", and "how many children will finish in the streets due to this bunch of idiots of IAC manager?(give money for real education than paying Qatar students who eat and flies for cheap(120$ an hour when normal price is around 300$!!!)".

IAC is in my point of view, a bunch of criminals who should be jailed.

Buying an A320 simulator had no sense for a non existing course(MCC)...?what is the next surprise?

how long tax payers are going to continue to spend money in this little (french) game?

Nobody is really interested by IAC except Qatar airline.

What some people don't know: Qatar rents the planes from IAC for a ridiculous price.

For each hour flown, the thai government is making a gift to Qatar.

From my source, the plane costs 150$/hour with a flight instructor at IAC. Other schools charge 200-300$/hour.

IAC has over 50 employees which cost over 100'000$/months.

At this rate, IAC can not and won't never make any money.

The sad thing is that Qatar students are not really learning to fly here, they do time building only(they need 150 hours before to come back to Qatar). It means the sit in the plane, and the flight instructor flies the planes.

Students are(during cruise) authorized to follow the movement of the flight controls.This give them a sens of flying, but IAC doesn't train airline pilots nor privat pilot.

They don't give ground school or flight briefings.

It has been known, as thai instructors don't know to read/ write/ speak english, they ask simply their "students" to grade themselves in their progress book.

I want to ad that Qatar students are not sent by Qatar airlines, but by the Qatar Academy.Qatar Academy has too many students so they send some of their guys to thailand to make time building.

If the school is still there, it's simply because the Thai governement is too ashamed to recognise their fiasco , and have decided to pursue in their mistake by continuing to throw money from the windows.

Their plan is to receive an airbus 320 simulator, then a Boeing 737 , and a MD80 as well for the cost of 45 millions US$.

This is really bad planed considering the actual crisis, but as long the governement want make fun of their Thai citizen, and instead give the money to a crazy french manager to persist in his dream, eh?why not?as long there is money, there is hope!

Thai people don't need to be educated anyway...they prefer to have nice little planes flying over their head so some frenchies can play behind their office as "aviation manager".

CUT AND THRUST ..

very interesting reading .

it certainly , gives the few farangs ,

in sleepy nakhon , something different to chat about .

{ i have heard all the moans , about wifes , and girl friends , sure}

farang flyer ,

where can i buy decent bread in nakhon , ??

and please , not tesco.

IAC is now down. Airplanes and sims will be bought by another company, and thai instructors relocated to another functions.Unpaid foreign instructors can simply make their bag and leave.

Sadly and regrettably it's the end of a "megalodream" created by a french desillusionist megalomanager who in fact have hurt the economy of Thailand.

How much this mess has costed at the end , answer:probably several millions of $,considering that Thai people have to survive with 100-200 bahts a day; this is simply scandalous and in my point of my thai view , managment should be sued by the government itself for mismanagement.(Who do you think they will go after?)

After this mega FLOP, we can ask ourselves if the ministry will allows other flight schools in the country.

IAC has simply hurt everyone.In the past and in the future, there won't be another flight schools for probably several years.

The controversy is set by a bunch of young guys more interested by Udon Thani Night Clubs and Karaoke than by training their students and they are very good flyers on the white board, but it is another thing in real conditions in the rainy season!

has Mr Principal something to hide in Udon Thani?.

we have eared that all "sacked" flight instructors have found jobs in very good flight schools with much better standards than IAC.

We still live in a shit hole and eat rice everyday...

our best foreign instructors have been sacked and we fly with thai instructors who can barely speak English and are not instructor but kind of ex military pilot with no instructor experience.

Training is slow, and we don't see the end.

IAC is a nightmare, and we all think we did a mistake to join this crappy university.

This school has now a so bad reputation, that thai Airways will laugh at us...

IAC has screwed our life.

We stay here, becasue our money (over 80000US$) has been (badly)invested.

If we were enrolled in another school, we would be flying for an airline now.

Hey Thaistudent

Yes i have been paid for august & sept. And in real dollars too. Obviously you are fishing or think i have some connection the mess in the NE Thailand. In situations like this i am thankful i am not a professional pilot. If you are a student there as the Principal thinks you are, i truly pity you. Looks like you backed the wrong school and believed the PR from a foreigner. Truly Sad

justcruisin: Luck isn't going to cut it. They are staying open due to political reasons. I know they must have more staff arriving, but for every foreign FI the HoT brings in more locals that cant speak english.

News: the Dean of the Aviation Department has just quit. No 3 months notice. Just walked out, sighting personal reasons. Yeah Right! Is this a common practice for senior thai management to do?

JBS!

my question was not for you JohnyBS, but for all IAC staff.

This is now over 1 year we are in this school, and we don't see the end.

We want finish our training, standards of our school are far below minimum.

Do you know exactly why the Dean left?

did you get your September salary?

about bribery, there is in the lot a student who didn't qualify to continue the course and has been send back home when he was in qatar aeronautical college.

this student has been sent back to the flight line because his family know an Emir from Qatar.

The training file of this student is disastrous, after 30 hours, he was not sent solo, poor recommendation from his ex FIs.

When he arrived in IAC, he tried to bribe his new flight instructor who is highly qualified. He refused to sign him off and the student start to bitch against his flight instructor and did a bad report to the Principal.

the flight instructor has been forced to fly by the principal after he got a letter stating he is not at the standard of IAC and he will be sack , the flight instructor told to the school that as long he is not at the standard of the school, he can not legaly fly.

qatar students and all instructors know this story.This bad student has continued to bribe thai instructors by offering his motorbike.

After reading all these complaints against IAC, I wonder how long they are going to keep this manager?

why don't they kick him out and look for a better manager?Why did they chose this manager? did they checked his credentials before? who to blame now?

Are Thai people stupid? in my point of view they have been brainwashed, or they didn't have the choice(the only way to get a job).

the root is corrupt as well as the entire school(from bottom to top, it's full of s...t).

Many schools have crashed worldwide, and IAC will be the next one if they continue on this road.

by "sacking out" foreign instructors was not a smart move. These instructors have contacts with the airlines.

Qatar get their feedback from these ex-flight instructors as well.

no more week end in Udon Thani!!!

Here we are!!!, so if I resume correctly what I read ,IAC management has a problem with people going on week end.

what's the problem of this crazy manager?, if some pilots spend their w-end where they want, do they risk to be fired?

I got some news:another french examiner with lot of experience has been recently grounded. This guy is a french EXAMINER...

I wonder how long make an instructor in IAC?1, 2,3 or 4 months? before the "you have been in Udon Thani, you are grounded"

"everything is coming back to normal",

After reading your posts and from my sources , I conclude that :

-they become parano because their "sacked" instructors are filing law case against IAC and IAC won't back up any farang manager.

-a french examiner working for IAC has been grounded for misconduct recently, this french examiner has excellent relationship with the french embassy in Bangkok.

-they have only 3 thai students who after 9 months, don't have even a privat license.

-IAC has hired an A320 sim instructor when there is no sim!!!???.

-some other instructors are coming when there is no more students to train.

-Prof. Suwit didn't write this letter to B.post.

-this school has a bad reputation in Asia , it's managed by Thai People with no aviation background.

- Bangkokpost is spot on!.

I suggest you to check for a better school, this one stinks!

School for pilots just fails to take off SIRIKUL BUNNAG

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NAKHON PHANOM : Only three Thai students have enrolled for the first semester at the two-billion-baht International Aviation College _ an institution observers say is a prime example of politicians starting up self-serving projects.

The college is part of Nakhon Phanom University, which was established in 2005.

College dean Prasong Tianthanu said: ''It is disappointing. We planned to produce 100 pilots in five years, and were expecting at least 12 Thai and foreign students to register for the full-time Commercial Pilot Licence programme.

''The short course, 100 hours of pilot training, attracted 15 Qatar Airways pilots.''

The college, which hoped to become the region's pilot-training centre, invested more than 290 million baht buying training planes.

It is paying six-digit salaries to five trainers _ two Thais, an American, a Briton and a Frenchman.

It boasts a European standard training course in English for the first time in Thailand. The course costs about 2.3 million baht. The short course costs 500,000 baht.

Mr Prasong conceded the new college had not won the trust of local and foreign carriers.

The college is far from Bangkok airports, making it harder to draw part-time trainers as well as students.

Now that the plan to train 100 pilots seems unrealistic, the college has shifted its attention to the six-month course.

Apart from the target market in the Middle East, the college is planning to court students from China, Laos and Vietnam.

Gerard Charles, the head teacher, said quality would be the key to the college's survival.

The college offers a European-standard programme, while other pilot schools in Thailand follow the US standard, he said.

Students practise on Airbus A320 simulators, which are not available anywhere else in Thailand.

At the end of the programme, students are required to do five hours' flying training, as well as training in problem solving, to prepare them for every situation.

Four sources in the Higher Education Commission agreed that the college was set up to satisfy a politician and with complete disregard to its worth academically or as an investment.

''The college was set up by a high-flying politician, who has long had solid support in this province. The college was set up to cement his popularity and bring the provincial airport back to life,'' said a source.

The airport now welcomes one commercial flight a day.

The source said many commissioners cautioned that the college is too far from Bangkok, where trainers and repairs are readily available. They suggested the college be built in nearby cities, such as Chon Buri, Prachuap Khiri Khan and Phetchaburi.

They also argued that given the budget constraints, the two-billion-baht college would eat away much needed funding for the 12 years of free schooling and the development of 60 universities throughout the country.

Wing Commander Piya Tregalnon, the president of the Bangkok Aviation Centre, a privately-owned pilot training school based at Don Muang, said the top pilot teachers worked full-time in the air force and could not travel to work at the college as it is too far away. The college now has to shoulder the high costs of hiring foreign teachers.

Students from China, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore opt for Australia, which has more than 200 pilot training schools that are experienced and come with good reputations.

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from what I have read,this school has lot of problems (very bad management and lot of crap like high JAA standards,high quality, EU standards)and gives only THAI licenses.

5-6 instructors have already left the school.

they had 15-20 students but won't get more!

if they were so good, why so many complaints and people leaving?

check pprune.org to know more.(IAC NPU)

I won't spend my money there.