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I know a guy in Thailand that has 2 of these, their heads are massive, at least 12 inches across.

he says they are very gentle and he trusts them, he also has 2 little kids.

I would never go around there again because of the dogs and my own kids. I went the first time not knowing he had them.

One day.

in that case, what you saw wasn't a Pitbull and shouldn't be in this thread.

Oh I'm sorry....guess you saw what I saw so you must know then....so sorry about that.

over developed bodies and head are not a characteristic of the APBT. the APBT is a medium sized dog, desirable weight for a mature male in good condition is between 35 and 60 pounds. the ever popular lab/golden retriever will weigh in between 70 and 80.

im sure what youre describing is a dog...what breed remains a mystery.

I know a guy in Thailand that has 2 of these, their heads are massive, at least 12 inches across.

he says they are very gentle and he trusts them, he also has 2 little kids.

I would never go around there again because of the dogs and my own kids. I went the first time not knowing he had them.

One day.

in that case, what you saw wasn't a Pitbull and shouldn't be in this thread.

Pitbulls were bred to be aggressive a few decades ago but, times have changed and its only a tiny minority (of dog fighting enthusiasts) nowadays who do so. As always, its down to the owner...

For those of you who are convinced that all pitbulls are 'psychotic' and will 'attack on a trigger' - watch the Dog Whisperer.

As I said in an earlier post, I would not adopt one myself as I know I am not authoritive enough.

Most terriers (especially bull terriers) need a stong, dominating personality to take charge. Personally, I have enough problems with my whippet's behaviour ! He is not at all 'dominant' and doesn't seem to understand the concept (!) BUT, I have problems enough distracting him from hunting small animals.

I understand your point that there may be fewer dog-fighting enthusiasts (although I am not convinced that there is still not an underground subculture where it exists) and as a result fewer pitbulls trained to be psychotic killers. The Dog Whisperer and his 30-minute shows are all very impressive but I am sure that even Cesar would not recommend these animals to be regarded in the same way as your average pet. I am not suggesting compulsory euthanasia, merely reversing the selective breeding that produced them by removing them from the canine gene pool

Do not know much about the dog whisperer, but I do know that 59% of dog fatal attacks in America are done by pit bulls. Rottweilers tag far behind at 14%. Not really sure of the solution from a breeding standpoint, but I always take precautions when I see a pit bull.....

haha...you made these numbers up right ? the APBT is a very specific breed. i might believe these figures if they came with the caveat "but then, i dont really know what a pit bull (sic) is !"

i used this pool. it is nice actually. the right size and clean. becoming a member of the thai-japan complex is THB100 per year. then you can use all of their facilities except the pool. there is a nominal charge per visit...i think you can also buy lessons.

the facilities at thai-japan are dated, but classes are free. ive taken boxing/akido classes there. good fun.

Well done Chiang Mai University.

They've moved on from a puppet to robots.

wat ?

a great effort by the prize winners in a challenging competition. congratulations. thailand has a long history of success in school robotics so CMU's performance isn't a great surprise. if you are interested in finding more information on the competition - http://www.wro2012.org/v/challenges

this is a bizzare arguement. you brought up syria in a bulgaria thread, but palestine cant be discussed ?

the bomb attack in Damascus killed three top Syrian ministers: Defence Minister Daoud Rajiha, President Bashar al-Assad's brother-in-law Assef Shawkat and General Hassan Turkomani. Two days later, Syria's national security chief, Hisham Ikhtiari, died from injuries he received in the attack. at least two of these men served in th civil service. not military.

by your definition this is only two thirds terrorism ?

how about the attack on uss cole ? how about flying a plane into the pentagon ? how about Nidal Hasan’s 2009 assault on the U.S. military base at Fort Hood ? it is getting harder and harder to be called a terrorist on this forum.

Interestingly, Iran tries to suggest some kind of equivalence between Syrian rebels attacks on their murderous regime's military officials (close ally of Iran) and a terror attack on young Israeli tourists.

you would have us believe one type of terrorism is different (better) to another ? i wouldn't even mind so much if that was what you were trying to sell us. instead, when victims are state sanctioned enemies they are called 'murderous regime's military officials (close ally of Iran)' while the other event is gets described as a 'terror attack on young Israeli tourists'.

they are both terror attacks - condem them both as such.

I prefer to believe the allegations of torture and denial of legal counsel claims.

What a surprise.

However, bonobo has actually seen how these prisoners are actually treated and is a committed liberal, so has no reason to cover anything up if they were tortured. He says that the whole thing was blown out of proportion and that seems to fit the facts.

No, with respect to Bonobo, he has not seen how the prisoners are treated, he has seen how 'some' of them are treated. I'm sure he isn't covering anything up, he's simply stating what he has observed. I'm sure he will correct me if I am wrong but I doubt very much he would be privvy to any requests by lawyers to the US administration to visit prisoners and I also doubt he was on duty 24/7 guarding all prisoners at the same time.

A normal person would think that any torturing would be kept between those that need to know and not every Tom Dick and Harry would be aware of such things. I'd be very surprised if they put out a TV Guide stating at 11pm is waterboarding in cell 209 followed by a quick electric shock session in cell 308.

So, someone who has actually been there doesn't have insight into what is really going on but someone who gets their info from reading a blog or a forum like this does?

the plural of anecdotes is not data

oh man...this thread is not nearly as interesting as i had hoped.

further to this, supalai just announced in yesterdays BP that they have two new condos approved for construction - one on ekkamai thonglor and the other on ngamwongwan. pre sales to start next month. that means they have 4 condominium buildings i know of being sold even before a single footing has been poured.

i have to get into this market before i am left behind !

so i am about to ask some novice questions.

today i made my way over to the sales office of the new 'supalai' premier @ asoke. they have a range of options from studio to one and two bed apartments. http://[email protected]

they have their pre-sales days today and tomorrow. honestly, the place is packed and the studio apartments are all already sold. people are walking in and buying then and there. 6 studio units each floor x 28 floors x 3.3mil approx per unit = 554mil baht just in studio rooms before a brick has even been laid. that doesn't account for any other room types.

the sales person i spoke with said most buyers are investment buyers and will sell again off the plan before construction is even finished.

so, the first guy buys and sells off the plan. lets say 3.3 buy in today, sell at 4.0 in two years time. the second guy buys and sells an actual apartment. 4.0 buy in, sell a brand new apartment at 4.4. so here is my question:

who is the third buyer ? what do they want it for ? to live in it ? to rent it ? to sell again for profit ? are there even people living in these condos ? i am mystified as to who the third person is in the equation because really, aren't they the people driving the market ? are there really that many people looking to rent in bkk ? are there people who would buy to live in these apartments ?

please let me know if my guess at profit margins were correct.

im interested because i am thinking about buying myself. if everyone else is doing it, there has to be a dollar there right !?

Anyone got an internet website to watch the live games on as the midweek afternoon gamse I'll be at work so witll have to watch it on my computer in the office.

i have used this site to stream live games before, to varying degrees of success:

http://www.sportlemon.tv/

you might like to check it out.

in this thread - the righteously indignant, pouring scorn on a culture of billions for the crazy interpretation of one. can you all now move on as i noticed you neglected to comment on this thread:

http://www.thaivisa....ker-in-arizona/

Disgusting though it may be it was not an 'honor' killing which this thread is about. All honor killings are completely unacceptable, whoever carries them out. To put it in perspective 91% of honor killings are carried out by Muslims so there must be a lot of misunderstanders of Islam out there.

http://my.telegraph....ings-worldwide/

P.S The facts are out there, speak for themselves and are easy enough to find in spite of the best efforts of the left wing press to conceal them.

also, citing grumpylarry's blog as a source is not citing anything. 91% of honor killings...really ? who does the other 9% ? how many people are we actually talking about here ? if we are going to talk facts dan, lets make sure they are all available.

in this thread - the righteously indignant, pouring scorn on a culture of billions for the crazy interpretation of one. can you all now move on as i noticed you neglected to comment on this thread:

http://www.thaivisa....ker-in-arizona/

Disgusting though it may be it was not an 'honor' killing which this thread is about. All honor killings are completely unacceptable, whoever carries them out. To put it in perspective 91% of honor killings are carried out by Muslims so there must be a lot of misunderstanders of Islam out there.

http://my.telegraph....ings-worldwide/

P.S The facts are out there, speak for themselves and are easy enough to find in spite of the best efforts of the left wing press to conceal them.

lets map this out. an article is posted on honour killings in Pakistan, one guy killing his six daughters. we get two pages of comments, scott posting something to do with the middle east, others egypt, and someone else calling for crusades.

meanwhile, no one comments on 4 adults ganging up to kill one child.

the truth is, pakistani people are no doubt horrified by this as well. the guy was caught and imprisoned, so their laws seem to work and funnily enough, seem to reflect ours. weird right !?

egypt is about as close to pakistan as the uk is to russia. just because russia and the uk are christian countries doesn't make them the same place !

this whole 'us' and 'them' thing is boring and allows you to be manipulated.

in this thread - the righteously indignant, pouring scorn on a culture of billions for the crazy interpretation of one.

That is then condoned and even applauded by many.

i didn't see that in the article - and neither did you.

in this thread - the righteously indignant, pouring scorn on a culture of billions for the crazy interpretation of one. can you all now move on as i noticed you neglected to comment on this thread:

The implication is that Britain is changing so fast demographically that what might have not been considered a British name 50 years ago may be so now but our perceptions have not yet caught up with reality.

See what I mean, now what is the father called?

http://www.dailymail...Jack-Harry.html

Mohammed is now the most popular name for baby boys ahead of Jack and Harry

Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz1TO3Ucpy9

i will let MAJIC comment on the meaning of his post, but you are right - tom, dick and harry is no longer the face of britain. i still don't see the connection between the persons background and their crime however, there are plenty of criminals named john.

the fathers name is found in the original article.

"Lancashire police said Mohammed Karolia, 29, and his wife Nafisa Karolia, 22, were found guilty on two charges of child neglect on Tuesday despite pleading not guilty to the charges in relation to the death of their seven-month-old daughter"

Hmm.... doesn't sound like a British couple to me?

Heartfelt sorrows to the poor child,

and may she Rest In Peace.

...what do british couples sound like ?

What did? Whatever they are the lowest of the low and should be locked up and the key thrown away.

what did what ? MAJIC said this couple don't sound British to him. I didn't understand the implication.

"Lancashire police said Mohammed Karolia, 29, and his wife Nafisa Karolia, 22, were found guilty on two charges of child neglect on Tuesday despite pleading not guilty to the charges in relation to the death of their seven-month-old daughter"

Hmm.... doesn't sound like a British couple to me?

Heartfelt sorrows to the poor child,

and may she Rest In Peace.

...what do british couples sound like ?

the early reporting was set to default for most, speculating on either jihadist groups or ghadaffi's well publicised threat on europe. both wrong. this act of terrorism underlines what we already knew - there is an active nexus of neo-fascist groups throughout europe and they deserve at least some degree of scrutiny. if an islamist group been responsible `expert` opinions on threat levels and the dangers of `homegrown islamic extremists` would be filling airwaves. can you imagine what this site would have looked like ?

lets look at the BNP, EDL etc. lets break out the thesaurus and hyperventilate as usually reserved for muslim groups. are our neo-fascists tolerated because their anti-immigration bias is now mainstream political discourse ? the mainstream media are already seeking to isolate these terrorist attacks the work of a `lone madman`. neo-fascist groups throughout europe that are tolerated because their racist views are an extension of the anti-immigration propaganda adopted by european political elites and the right wing gutter press. they are both playing a dangerous game where racist rhetoric fuels concrete terror.

kuffki, you were caught making stuff up...then proceed to spin your way out of it ? a simple apology works better.

when you say 'every single regulation and sanction' and 'every single international law and agreement' you just make it worse.

dude, i am only trying to help you out here - you have a reputation to protect. this is the thai visa forum, at least...3 other people will see this.

Thank you, but i was not aware i was seeking help and certainly was not aware i had "reputation" to protect.

However if you DO want to appear intelligent, why do not you post FACTS showing otherwise, rather than trolling and discussing what i should or should not be doing

and here i was trying to help a man out ! sheesh...

i guess if i WAS trying to appear intelligent, all i would have to do is show you one UN 'regulation and sanction' that they comply with to prove your first statement a lie. then i could move onto showing one international 'law and agreement' they obey and that would show your second statement was also <deleted>. combine that with your ignorance on UN membership and, well, it would be a good thing you're not out to protect your reputation.

nah, i can't do it. i'm not intelligent enough.

While it seems more than a little ridiculous to try the US officials in absentia in Iran, (because the alleged crimes did not happen there), I have no complaints with charges being filed internationally by Iran. It's common knowledge that some US forces (and UK forces too), have tortured prisoners, and committed other excesses. If war criminals from other countries can be tried at the Hague, why not US officials ? A war crime is a war crime, regardless of the citizenship of the person committing the crime. I hope they also find some evidence on Blair, Bush's pet warmongering lap-dog. It also seems eminently sensible to cut ties with companies associated with the alleged perpetrators of these crimes. After all, if it's acceptable for the US, EEC, and other countries to use sanctions, or refuse to trade with "rogue" countries and companies, it must be acceptable for Iran to take the same stance.

Because Iran is NOT Hague, nor is it even a member of UN , nor it is even a democratic state, nor it is human rights protector.

Iran is ONLY a terror supporter and human rights abuser, which gives them no right or position to even open their mouth let alone judge others.

It's always advisable to check FACTS, before posting drivel. According to the United Nations website, http://www.un.org/en/members/ Iran IS indeed a member of the UN, and in fact, is a FOUNDING MEMBER. A country does NOT have to be a democratic state, in order to recognise war crimes committed by other states. Iran has every right, to raise this matter, and file lawsuits internationally. I tend to agree with philw's comment regarding the irony concerned, but perhaps the Iranians have a better sense of humour than some of the right-wing posters on here. Nevertheless, a war crime is against international law, and americans should NOT be exempt from either being accused or tried at the Hague.

FOUNDING MEMBER who does not comply with and defy every single regulation and sanction.

The very same founding member who breaches every single international law and agreement

The very same founding member who supports terror-openly

The very same founding member who openly wishes for destruction of another

It can not be the same founding member who supports, aids and harbors internationally recognized terror organizations, arms terror groups, sponsors terrorist attacks and praises those who kill.

Call me right wing or whatever wing you like, but knowing THE FACTS, not sure how you arrived at conclusion supporting Iran's lunacy once again.

PS. Who would be the defense for the Americans?

kuffki, you were caught making stuff up...then proceed to spin your way out of it ? a simple apology works better.

when you say 'every single regulation and sanction' and 'every single international law and agreement' you just make it worse.

dude, i am only trying to help you out here - you have a reputation to protect. this is the thai visa forum, at least...3 other people will see this.

...Christian extremism...

It is 2011, not the crusades, but thank for lightening up the thread.

you like what i did there ? i took a population of billions, branded them all with the same logo and proceeded to make sweeping generalizations. using weasel words aimed at creating an impression that something specific and meaningful had been said, i in fact only conveyed only a vague or ambiguous claim based on bigoted and one eyed impressions.

modern day examples of Christianities perversions are not difficult to find.

Perhaps it's the wise thing to do, yet it underlines the endemic problems of Islamic countries throughout their width and breadth. From the west coast of northern Africa - all the way to the India/Pakistan border - and from Islamic enclaves in former Yugoslavia south to Islamic parts of Nigeria - trouble prevails. (and outside those vast boundaries, to Indonesia and Bangladesh).

The same weapons that France is giving to Libyans, will likely be used against westerners in the not-too-distant future. Add to that, Europe and the US will be compelled to shovel billions of $'s to Libya and all the other decrepit Arab countries, once the smoke clears. Already, there are dire predictions of groveling-in-the-sand poverty when the smoke clears in Yemen, which is already the poorest Arab country. What to do with that wide swath of problem countries? Western democracies will have to just keep applying billion dollar band-aids and hope Islam extremism doesn't spread beyond the places it's already ruined.

Perhaps it's a crazy thing to do, yet it underlines the endemic problems of Christian countries throughout their width and breadth. From the Emerald Isle - all the way through Europe including Russia - and from the US down into South America - trouble is fermented. (and outside those vast boundaries, Australia is also involved).

The same weapons that France is giving to Libyans, were earlier given to them by Christian Nations. Helicopters from Italy, communication technlogy from Germany: When the arms embargo against Libya was lifted in 2004, the countries dictator Moammar Gadhafi went on a shopping spree in the European Union. Now he is using those weapons against his own people - to the EU's shame. Add to that, Libya has some of the biggest and most proven oil reserves — 43.6 billion barrels — outside Saudi Arabia, and some of the best drilling prospects. Christian nations from Europe and the US will be compelled to remove billions of $'s from Libya. What to do with that wide swath of problem countries? Western "democracies" will have to just keep signing billion dollar arms deals and hope Christian extremism continues to spread beyond the places it's already ruined.

those not sanctioned for "providing support to terrorism and to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction"

World's largest arms exporters

The unit in this table are expressed in millions of US dollars at 1990s prices. These values do not represent real financial flows but are a crude instrument to estimate volumes of arms transfers, regardless of the contracted prices, which can be as low as zero in the case of military aid. Ordered for year 2010

1 - USA - 8641

2 - Russia - 6039

3 - Germany - 2340

4 - China - 1423

5 - UK - 1054

6 - France - 834

7 - Sweden - 806

8 - Italy - 627

9 - Netherlands - 503

10 - Israel - 472