davylad

so how does one stay if he cant qualify for some visa's, like 200,000 baht or whatever it may take? i am moving to the philippines but rather live in Thailand. i dont want to travel every 30 days.

have you been to the philippines? the girls are lovely and all speak english,but after that its all down hill,the foods terrible,and thers no european food available in the shops,thers nothing to do,unless you like deserted beaches or shopping malls?

Hi ,

thanks for the info

davy

I live here and it is fine

I have been here for about 2 1/2 years now.

you can PM me if you would like.

If you looking here, a friend has available on April 1, a 200 square meter, 2-storey, 2 bedroom, dining room, den, storage room, 2 bathroom, fully furnished with satellite, cable, internet for 20,000 / month.

The kitchen is large and European plus a large back yard.

you can PM me

email me [email protected]

call me 086 722 1216 if you are interested.

Hi,thanks for the info I'm coming over the week after next,might give you a call,I notice there's a property for sale as well,I might have a viewing,it looks like a good location,do you use the communal pool/

ciao Dave

Hi I'm thinking of renting a property in La Bella Casa.

Does anyone have any information on this estate?is it noisy?does it a have a communal pool?

ciao Davylad

I'm looking for a house in Jomtien for my friends to stay: 1 family for 2 weeks holiday, a second family for 1 week in April.

Either 5 beds (or 3 beds plus 2 in annex) or one 3 bed house house for 2 weeks, and another house min 2 beds for one week, nearby.

Ideally one large house would be best.

They want to be "near the Beach" and "walking distance of shops". No idea if this possible, but any offers or suggestions will be welcome.

Thanks

Mobi

Hi Try www.pattayaholidayrentals.com they have hundreds of rentals

You need to be a little more specific davylad, a lot of variables, decor, land size, house age, house size,single walls, cavity walls, private pool (by who?), communal pool ???? security, etc. etc. ..... so many different houses and options here??

Are you talking about one property in particular or a general observation?

PM me if you want to discuss further discretely.

Hi Lenny,

I was talking about specific properties that I'd seen on the internet,and then found whilst in Jomtien,I also found a private agent trying to overcharge for properties as well,so you have to keep your wits about you.

ciao Davylad

Hi,I'm one brit who is thinking of buying in Jomtien,I've been looking at properties on the internet for say 7 million baht,but if you ask the neighbours or see the property in the local paper the owner is only asking 5 million or less,has any one else noticed this?

"VERY nice village on the outskirts"

I think that says it all. Very, very difficult to sell 'outskirts' property in down markets.

I live 500 meters to the beach. All houses have 100+ wah. All are 3-4 bedroom, 4 bath.

Wiiide streets and on the pattaya baht bus route.

The house across from me has been for sale since I moved in 3 years ago. They are asking

only 5M baht.

Forget about selling, and it will be difficult to rent also. Put a sign out front for rent, don't go thru an agency. Perhaps a neighbor has a friend that will rent.

Otherwise you seem like an intelligent person, so perhaps you have already taken these steps.

the houses or the land on which the houses are located?

The whole kit and caboodle. I'm letting the 'secret' out - Jomtien Beach Paradise

Hi,I can only find 2 houses for sale at Jomtien Beach Paradise and they have been on the market for years ,but are on for 7 million and 6 million,they are both very nice and spacious,where are the 2 properties you are talking about advertised?the ones I have seen are on eastcoast,I must say that this looks a very nice place but it is surrounded by undeveloped land,and there would appear to be room 4 a lot more houses on jbp itself?

Some condos in Spain are selling at half the price they were bought for and Bulgaria and Romania down 30%+. And thats with all the benefits Romania is about to receive from the eu. And if a full EU member like Spain can bulldoze peoples properties, they can surely do it in Thailand where you dont have any rights and have bought with a "dodgy" company. imho

that's a load of bull. "Spain" did not bulldoze any properties. stupid ignorant people and greedy investors bulldozed their properties by not being able to pay the mortgages and developers overestimated demand. the same goes for the U.S., Ireland and several other countries. UK has just started.

spain certainly has bulldozed people's properties,and they had planning permission for there houses as well.1000's of properties are still under threat of being bulldozed and no compensation either.

Pattaya is a pathetic place for fat people to get laid. Stay away! (unless ur a fatty)

you should come to the uk most of the women are really fat,

i think he was refering to fat males although he wrote people!!!

im afraid everyone knows about the size of the women in uk haha hence thailand has a lot of male visitors from uk and europe/usa.

i sure like petite women and am not fat although have got fatter with all the eating out i do here compared to healthy cooking i did in uk.

if you check adventures previous posts on other topics you will see that he is a troll or complete <deleted>.....infact in one of his posts he said he was thinking of coming down to pattaya so maybe this superfit young lad has put on a bit of weight and considers himself a fatty now(considering he lives on the streets of bkk ,supposedly, i think he will still be slim for a long time yet) maybe his business picked up and he actually got a valid visa to stay here.

Hi.I have noticed a lot of "bar girls belly" in pattaya,caused I assume by sitting around all day drinking soft drinks?on my trips to Thailand and Philippines I'm never very hungry, due to the heat and I always go home slimmer.

your third paragraph is totally inaccurate. the act of union was between england and wales only. scotland and northern ireland are countries within the uk.

the original post got it spot on.

Oh dear here we go again. England = Britain = UK. England = England.

Sad that English people are the only nationality in the world who do not know their own country's name or borders.

Bulls**t.....I'm British and know it. I was born in England of a half English, half Scottish father and a half English, half Irish mother.

My passport is issued by "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" commonly known as "The UK" and inside it says Nationality: British Citizen.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain consists of a Union between England, Scotland and Wales plus some outlying islands making up the geographical area "British Isles", "Britain" or "Great Britain".

You are always British first, English, Scottish or Welsh etc. second.....

But why we don't have a national British football team beats me and sadly here in Thailand most Thais only seem to know names of countries football teams hence the use of "I'm English" or "I'm Scottish" and never "I'm British". And if I'm getting my history timeline correct "The English" aka Angrit came to Thailand before the forming of the United Kingdom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_Kingdom states:

The history of the United Kingdom—British history— as an unified sovereign

state begins with the legistlative union between the kingdoms of England and

Scotland on 1 May 1707. England and Wales and Scotland had been in personal

union since the Union of the Crowns in 1603, when James VI of Scotland succeeded

his cousin Elizabeth I as James I of England. In the ensuing century powerful

sectarian and political differences divided the kingdoms, however under the Acts

of Union 1707 England and Scotland were unified as the Kingdom of Great Britain,

sharing a single constitutional monarch and parliament at Westminster.

There was a UNION between England and Scotland in 1707 as well as a prior UNION between England, Wales and Scotland in 1603. There never was a separate England and Wales only union. And are you trying to say Wales is not a country? I'm sure a few million Welsh would disagree with that.....

So you are wrong........

Wales isn't a country it's a principality

Hi,Ive been reading about the noise pollution in central pattaya,especially in condo's,there was no noise pollution when I stayed in vtv jomtien,what's the situation with noise pollution on the darkside?I don't think there are any condo's on the darkside?

Pattaya is a pathetic place for fat people to get laid. Stay away! (unless ur a fatty)

you should come to the uk most of the women are really fat,

buy a house in Pattaya ? no way rent rent rent

Hi, the problem with renting is it's very expensive,and I'd be renting for half the year when I'm not there.you can buy a house for 6 million baht,to rent it for 30 yrs would cost 20 m baht,but I just don't like the idea of renting,just goes against the grain chucking money out of the window.

20mill over 30 years ,my god what are you intending to rent? a 6 mill house can be rented for about 30k a month ,put your 6 mill into a savings account ,even at 5% ,well you do the math ,rent boy rent. then if your wife and you split or you want to move no problems .

I haven't seen any houses with pools on the beachside advertised for 30k a month?can you give me some places to look at?but even thats 10 mill over 30 yrs

of course not. because for 30k rent you get in Pattaya either a shack or a moderate house without pool in a shitty area.

you get a shack or live in a shitty area? what a load of b-llocks i neither live in a shack or live in a shitty area ,but in a beutifull detached house on a gated estate close to town ,complete with all mod cons ,i must admit we do not have a pool as it was one of the things we definatly did not want ,especially as the club house has a large one if anybody ever bothered to use it ,in fact of all the pools near us only one ever seems to have anyone in it and she is about 2 years old with her nanny.

so if you want to talk b-llocks please know what you are talking about before starting.

Hi,yes you're right about the pools,the vast majority of people never use them,or only for the first couple of days of their holiday,but I'm the exception I use the pool everyday.

buy a house in Pattaya ? no way rent rent rent

Hi, the problem with renting is it's very expensive,and I'd be renting for half the year when I'm not there.you can buy a house for 6 million baht,to rent it for 30 yrs would cost 20 m baht,but I just don't like the idea of renting,just goes against the grain chucking money out of the window.

20mill over 30 years ,my god what are you intending to rent? a 6 mill house can be rented for about 30k a month ,put your 6 mill into a savings account ,even at 5% ,well you do the math ,rent boy rent. then if your wife and you split or you want to move no problems .

I haven't seen any houses with pools on the beachside advertised for 30k a month?can you give me some places to look at?but even thats 10 mill over 30 yrs

of course not. because for 30k rent you get in Pattaya either a shack or a moderate house without pool in a shitty area.

ya all the properties I've seen with pools on the beachside are 60,000 plus

which I can't afford as it eats into my capital and I only have small income

I don't think I'll ever get tired of stting by my pool with a few asian beauties?

I take it Beverley is your daughhter

RAZZ

no the daughter of somebody I met in the philippines .her mother took the photo before trying to steal my credit cards,she also stole £200 off me,I learn't not to trust anyone that day.the receptionist in the hotel let her open my safety box(some security)luckily she was an amateur but very convincing liar.

buy a house in Pattaya ? no way rent rent rent

Hi, the problem with renting is it's very expensive,and I'd be renting for half the year when I'm not there.you can buy a house for 6 million baht,to rent it for 30 yrs would cost 20 m baht,but I just don't like the idea of renting,just goes against the grain chucking money out of the window.

20mill over 30 years ,my god what are you intending to rent? a 6 mill house can be rented for about 30k a month ,put your 6 mill into a savings account ,even at 5% ,well you do the math ,rent boy rent. then if your wife and you split or you want to move no problems .

I haven't seen any houses with pools on the beachside advertised for 30k a month?can you give me some places to look at?but even thats 10 mill over 30 yrs

sorry i didnt mean beachside,but then where can you buy a house beach side for 6 mill,closer to 15 .by the way 30k over 30 years years is only 10.8 mill if you put that money eg 6 mill into even a savings account paying 5% gives you a good return ,and a thai built house(would you want to stay the same place for 30years?) would be in a sorry state. plus your chances of selling if you want to move are very low.

ps we live in a very large detached house just of sukhumvit ,all mod cons on an estate 28k a month ,look around agents ask high rents ,phone direct to the owner. its easy when you know how .despite what people say most renters are desperate to rent their houses ,there is a glut of farang style houses thais here generally buy in the 1/3 mill range.

ime not being negative ,only trying to help ,we were all in the same boat once,best of luck.

Hi,I'm more confused now than when I posted my question,but it's been very interesting anyway,I think the best thing to do is rent somewhere first and see if you like it before buying,but If I'm going to rent I'd like to be beachside but all the rents 60k upwards,I see that taksin's brother is the new prime minister so he could make a difference to the buying by company situation(if he has the same views as his brother)

buy a house in Pattaya ? no way rent rent rent

Hi, the problem with renting is it's very expensive,and I'd be renting for half the year when I'm not there.you can buy a house for 6 million baht,to rent it for 30 yrs would cost 20 m baht,but I just don't like the idea of renting,just goes against the grain chucking money out of the window.

20mill over 30 years ,my god what are you intending to rent? a 6 mill house can be rented for about 30k a month ,put your 6 mill into a savings account ,even at 5% ,well you do the math ,rent boy rent. then if your wife and you split or you want to move no problems .

I haven't seen any houses with pools on the beachside advertised for 30k a month?can you give me some places to look at?but even thats 10 mill over 30 yrs

Hi, I'm thinking of buying a house off soi siam country club,in the royal prestige village.Does anyone know anything about this village or the area?is the public transport on soi country club?is it easy to get into town?any information would be good.

thanks Davylad

Hi,

Yes, it's a beautiful place, but so far from everything ! Where do you live for now ? Do you know well Pattaya ?

It appears that many people buy in Pattaya east because they trust agencies that have interest to sell this place where there are so many houses for sale, and then big benefice for them.

In the East, the prices are really too high for this location, and it will be very difficult to resell if you need one day. Pattaya is a seaside city and the sea is very far from Siam Country Club !

For now, I think it's really better to buy between beach road and Sukhumwit road. And easy too, because agencies don't work there.

Hi Geroc,

You say that royalprestige is a lovely place,but then everything else is negative?It's only 4 miles from walking street,this doesn't sound very far to me,all agencies have an interest in selling thats there job,properties like this would be 3 times the price on the beach side,but I've also heard bad things about living on the beachside,suksabai villas being the crime capital of thailand for instance,

Got to be a tie between Suksabai villas and Pratumnak hill for that title!

555 ! You're so funny ! I suppose you've bought a house in East Pattaya ! That's great. Living in a seaside city and buy the farthest it's possible from the sea ! For farangs, fuel is not expensive in Thailand, but driving 12/15 km for shopping is a bit mad.

Just truy to rent out your house. You'll see easily how cheap will be the price.

Agencies like to work in the East. Around 1000 houses are for sale. It's easy to influence customers. People who buy there are new ones in Pattaya and they listen crazy argument as security, or quietness, imaging that in Pattaya, killers work, cars drive and dogs bark only between the beach and Sukhumwit ! But I've to admit cheaper prices.

I've often helped friends for finding a house or a condo in Pattaya. First rent and discover for 3 months or more. Then you'll be able to choose the place you'll buy. And if you can't expend big money, you can go to the east, but not too far. When real estate market will slack up, east pattaya prices will break down.

I am afraid you are way wrong there Geroc, people who buy in the east are the ones who have stayed in the city and cannot take anymore of the traffic, pollution, street hustlers and petty crime, violent crime, scammers, to name but a few reasons!

Far better value for money on the east side than some of the daylight robbery prices being quoted for a postage stamp size plot in the city!

East side is LIVING - City side is simply SURVIVING !

You are somewhat back to front with your reasoning Geroc

Whatever you say ,it's convenience vs value for money,and from what I've read I'd take the convenience of the beachside in Jomtien,which is very quiet compared to central pattaya.but less value for money.

Hi, I'm thinking of buying a house off soi siam country club,in the royal prestige village.Does anyone know anything about this village or the area?is the public transport on soi country club?is it easy to get into town?any information would be good.

thanks Davylad

Hi,

Yes, it's a beautiful place, but so far from everything ! Where do you live for now ? Do you know well Pattaya ?

It appears that many people buy in Pattaya east because they trust agencies that have interest to sell this place where there are so many houses for sale, and then big benefice for them.

In the East, the prices are really too high for this location, and it will be very difficult to resell if you need one day. Pattaya is a seaside city and the sea is very far from Siam Country Club !

For now, I think it's really better to buy between beach road and Sukhumwit road. And easy too, because agencies don't work there.

What are you blabbering on about??????????????????

im no intellect by any means but that was blabber , to clarify his blab for him ...............

agencies have interest to sell any property infact would get more commision on beach or nr beach property as more expensive.

i bought in east pattaya after looking at many villages everywhere and decided that i liked one not too far over the east side and good value as got a lot more for my money than in town. ive had it 6 yrs now and think it may be getting too busy where i am ,as lots of shophouses going up allover ,that i may move a little further out east. davylad come and have a look as save on agents fee for me haha.

in the east the prices seem to go down the further you go out which is fair enough but all is only a short ride to get to the beach if thats your thing and bars/girls everywhere if thats your thing.

as to buy between beach and sukhumvit rd ,you get less land with the house ,less choice,less value for money,more traffic etc unless you go further up jomtien which could be an idea for davylad although they still a lot more expensive than the east side.

as to you saying that agencies dont work between beach and sukhumvit rd.......u must be baaaaaa, as the thais would say,the biggest and oldest agencies are all there. nice to get a post from such an informed pattaya poster.

if i was davylad(if he decides to buy) i would put in a low low offer on interesting places i like and see what happens,cash is definitely king(always has been ) especially in the current market........and no im not gonna sell mine cheap haha.

houses have always seemed to be an investment in longterm allover the world so hes not really gonna lose and if he sells in 10 yrs probably make ok money so lived in a place he likes and rent free and some cash back!!!!!!

as to looking after it when not there for months on end........lots of options. secure it up real good,housemaid,pay village security guard extra to keep extra eye on it,you can pay police and they do daily visits and basically dont leave anything expensive inside anyway......whats the worse that could happen.broken door/window.....a few hundred baht.

if you can afford to buy then why not,if you cant ......rent. no worries

Hi Tattoodrob,

nice to hear some common sense on this forum,you've said everything that I've been thinking,knowing or hoping to hear,I still think buying is best as renting is dead money that is lost forever and when I make an offer on a property it would around 60% of the asking price,obviously I'd rather buy in Jomtien as it is very quiet and handy for everything,but I cannot afford the sort of property you can buy on the darkside there,so if I do find something I like in jomtien I shall be putting a very low offer,I've seen properties that have been advertised for 2 years.

Okay, well here's the thing, has anyone here put in a low offer on a house which has been on the market for a couple of years or so ... and had it accepted? No. Didn't think so.

Vendors have a simple choice,they can except a low offer on their property or it stays unsold,it all depends on whether you can afford wait till the market improves?the world credit crunch is getting worse and the thai government situation is still unstable.

Hi, Can I bring my MGB ROADSTER to Thailand?

Hi, I'm thinking of buying a house off soi siam country club,in the royal prestige village.Does anyone know anything about this village or the area?is the public transport on soi country club?is it easy to get into town?any information would be good.

thanks Davylad

Hi,

Yes, it's a beautiful place, but so far from everything ! Where do you live for now ? Do you know well Pattaya ?

It appears that many people buy in Pattaya east because they trust agencies that have interest to sell this place where there are so many houses for sale, and then big benefice for them.

In the East, the prices are really too high for this location, and it will be very difficult to resell if you need one day. Pattaya is a seaside city and the sea is very far from Siam Country Club !

For now, I think it's really better to buy between beach road and Sukhumwit road. And easy too, because agencies don't work there.

What are you blabbering on about??????????????????

im no intellect by any means but that was blabber , to clarify his blab for him ...............

agencies have interest to sell any property infact would get more commision on beach or nr beach property as more expensive.

i bought in east pattaya after looking at many villages everywhere and decided that i liked one not too far over the east side and good value as got a lot more for my money than in town. ive had it 6 yrs now and think it may be getting too busy where i am ,as lots of shophouses going up allover ,that i may move a little further out east. davylad come and have a look as save on agents fee for me haha.

in the east the prices seem to go down the further you go out which is fair enough but all is only a short ride to get to the beach if thats your thing and bars/girls everywhere if thats your thing.

as to buy between beach and sukhumvit rd ,you get less land with the house ,less choice,less value for money,more traffic etc unless you go further up jomtien which could be an idea for davylad although they still a lot more expensive than the east side.

as to you saying that agencies dont work between beach and sukhumvit rd.......u must be baaaaaa, as the thais would say,the biggest and oldest agencies are all there. nice to get a post from such an informed pattaya poster.

if i was davylad(if he decides to buy) i would put in a low low offer on interesting places i like and see what happens,cash is definitely king(always has been ) especially in the current market........and no im not gonna sell mine cheap haha.

houses have always seemed to be an investment in longterm allover the world so hes not really gonna lose and if he sells in 10 yrs probably make ok money so lived in a place he likes and rent free and some cash back!!!!!!

as to looking after it when not there for months on end........lots of options. secure it up real good,housemaid,pay village security guard extra to keep extra eye on it,you can pay police and they do daily visits and basically dont leave anything expensive inside anyway......whats the worse that could happen.broken door/window.....a few hundred baht.

if you can afford to buy then why not,if you cant ......rent. no worries

Hi Tattoodrob,

nice to hear some common sense on this forum,you've said everything that I've been thinking,knowing or hoping to hear,I still think buying is best as renting is dead money that is lost forever and when I make an offer on a property it would around 60% of the asking price,obviously I'd rather buy in Jomtien as it is very quiet and handy for everything,but I cannot afford the sort of property you can buy on the darkside there,so if I do find something I like in jomtien I shall be putting a very low offer,I've seen properties that have been advertised for 2 years.

Ithink that you are better off renting.

If you only stay part of the year in your 30 year lease house who will look after that house when you are elsewhere? You may think that you will rent it. Perhaps so and perhaps no. Then what? If no one is their it is likely to get pillaged.

If you rent . You can move more easily. If an obnoxious neighbor moves in next door you can move. If you get bored and want to try out other locations in Thailand. You can move. If the political situation becomes untenable for "Farangs" you can move. Try selling a 30 year lease house. That could be very difficult to shift.

If you buy you will have a very hard time reselling especialy a house!

I too don't like the idea of paying for the land lords house. However, their is another way of looking at that. If you can be satisfied with a modest abode. You can get a very reasonable rental rate. If you pay the equivalent of $150.000 for ahouse. You could invest that $150.000 and get a return. The cash will not be locked up and lost after 30 years. If you got say a 5% investment return that would be about $7000 dollars. That return could pay the rent. For $583.00 you can rent a very nice place. You also would still have your cash. Why would you pay the land lord 30 years rent in advance?

Hi,the housemaid will look after the house when I'm not there surely?and if I need to sell in a few years time,the house will still be worth the same or maybe more if the political situation improves?hopefully you won't get a lot of noise on a expensive farang estate,90 % of the properties at view talay villas are usually empty when I've stayed there?

Hi, I'm thinking of buying a house off soi siam country club,in the royal prestige village.Does anyone know anything about this village or the area?is the public transport on soi country club?is it easy to get into town?any information would be good.

thanks Davylad

Hi,

Yes, it's a beautiful place, but so far from everything ! Where do you live for now ? Do you know well Pattaya ?

It appears that many people buy in Pattaya east because they trust agencies that have interest to sell this place where there are so many houses for sale, and then big benefice for them.

In the East, the prices are really too high for this location, and it will be very difficult to resell if you need one day. Pattaya is a seaside city and the sea is very far from Siam Country Club !

For now, I think it's really better to buy between beach road and Sukhumwit road. And easy too, because agencies don't work there.

Hi Geroc,

You say that royalprestige is a lovely place,but then everything else is negative?It's only 4 miles from walking street,this doesn't sound very far to me,all agencies have an interest in selling thats there job,properties like this would be 3 times the price on the beach side,but I've also heard bad things about living on the beachside,suksabai villas being the crime capital of thailand for instance,

buy a house in Pattaya ? no way rent rent rent

Hi, the problem with renting is it's very expensive,and I'd be renting for half the year when I'm not there.you can buy a house for 6 million baht,to rent it for 30 yrs would cost 20 m baht,but I just don't like the idea of renting,just goes against the grain chucking money out of the window.

Davylad, you are an estate agents dream. Unless you have a Thai wife and want her to have the property on your death, look at it another way.

Whatever way you look at it you WILL be renting. You can't own the land, so best you can hope for is a 30 year lease, which is another name for renting. If you pay rent annually or monthly, your capital can be invested elsewhere. Buying means paying out your rent 30 years in advance, + all the other expenses such as repairs etc.

hi,I used to own a leasehold flat here in the wet and miserable south of england,but it didn't make any difference I still felt I owned the property,ya I know I'm stupid,but who cares what happens in 30 yrs I'll be dead by then,so live for the present,I'll leave my property here in the uk to my nieces and nephews,( I don't see why they should have a good time in pattaya after I'm dead)It's just a personal preference to buy rather than rent,I don't think I'll ever get tired of stting by my pool with a few asian beauties?I actually think filipino birds are prettier,but I can't stand the food and the poverty in the philippines.

thanks for your concern,