rodeoooo

I think we are on the right track

I am back in the USofA now earning a baht or two

will continue shortly

Damian

we are on the same page, orally at least...

we are getting over the problem of too many oral orgasms

she is getting more comfortable with her amount of pleasure

i can get over the "mini coma" after her double O's

we are working on the problem of her exess lubrication

(i hope i am not being too graphic here, but i think she is a squirter...)

it is a double edge sword, it REALLY turns me on, but it embarrases her

bw

One of my favs:

We're going to need a bigger boat

jaws

it fits well in my life in the corporate world

it IS full of sharks!

and of course

Daxx it jim, i am a doctor not a magician!

star trek, bones to kirk

Great insight

i had forgotten she has tole me several times she is "not romantic"

yes she LOVES the teddy bears and photos from the kiosks

hmm, will try the magizines, bue since i dont read thai and dont want to shoot myself in the foot...

are there any Thai ladies here that can suggest a book or magizine?

r

How long have you been married?

Unless it has already been quite long, I'd say just go slow. be patient, and show a lot of love before, during and after sex.

The "sex as fun" angle does not work for many women and is especially not going to work with a conservative Thai woman. "Sex is an expression of love" omn the other hand can work wonders in ov ercoming inhibitions. .

Of course, don't limit your affectionate/loving behavior to sex, but be sure to make that a big part of it.

Talk to her a lot before ,during and after sex. Loving talk...how you feel about her, how beautiful she is to you, etc.

Communicate.

Be sensitive to her responses and do not try to get her to enjoy things she doesn't like. This is not like trying to get someone to taste an unfamiliar food (altho tyhat is often the way it strikes men). Just accept her preferences and be patient; with time they will expand in scope.

Quite frankly, the male tendency to view sex as recreation is a big turn off to many women, especially in the context of what is supposed to be a meaningful relationship. it is going to have to be something more than that for her to enjoy it, otherwise it will just be a service she feels obligated to provide.

Sexual responses in both genders are heavily influenced by the mind, but this is even more so for women. Feeling loved and in love will do more to turn her on than any number of physical manuevers.

You need to convey to her that you desire her sexually because you love her, not because sex is enjoyable or the female body beautiful per se.

WOW, where have YOU been

i really appreciate your insight

i know there are heaps of detractors out there

question:

lets go with the unfamiliar food concept......

untill you taste it, try it hot, cold, spicey, salted and unsalted, how do you know if you like it or not?

in fact, some of my favorite foods were an aquired taste.....

as for physical gymnastics, that part is great

it is the s l o w.... part that i want to bring out

i like the communication part, verbaling cherishing her as well as the physical carress

i think what i need to do is be able to verbaly express my feelings and desires in thai

simply to say "that feels good" or " i want to xyz" is not truely communications

or "does that feel good" that doesnt work

slow, gentle carresing and kissing of the entire anatomy so far has been a challenge

i am patient, and DO love and respect my Wife...

as for one of the questions, married 2 months, but pre marriage limited sex as she is very proper and reserved

we have just gotten over the hump (no pun, well yes a pun) regarding the size of the "wet spot". At least she doesnt jump up now and change the sheets . She is not sure that this is a good thing.......

another topic:

Is there some Thai thing about candle lit love makeing

i have gotten no points on this one

a couple of candles did nothing

and a room full scared her

what gives w/ that?

keep the suggestions coming

again

thank you in advance

(i could be more specific but i do not know the board ettiqute, and am reluctant to do out of respect)

addionally, awaking my Wifes sexuality is what i desire

"a raving harlot" is NOT what i seek

possibly consider that i am not a twisted yank, but actually a caring husband..........

I have not been a frequent poster or reader her

despite my 2004 membership

sheesh, i can see this is a tough crowd!

I AM trying the playfull fun part.

Hoping for maybe a source for thai language books.....

and as for spanking......film at 11, as they say in the USofA ..................

Hi folks!

I could use some sincere help with my Thai wife.

As you know Thai's are very shy. I would like to assist my wife explore

here Female sexuality and sensuality.

Her english is not that good, and my Thai makes us both Laugh!

SO, what to do?

There are plenty of farang books on the subject, but unreadable for my wife.

Her friends and family are not a good source.

I am not talking about kinky things ( well, what is kinky )

I am referring to slow, seduction, teasing, candles, bathing etc.

I believe the Female body is exquisive, and to be pampered, aroused and nurtured.

This being said, with my shy Thai wife, because it is new or different, she falls back to the "ticklish" excuse

thanx in advance

r

today is 20 March

I live in the USA, Los Angeles area

I have 5 trips since August 06

Called the Thai embasy, finally...got a live person

Farang from New York

gave him my dates in the Kindom

"6 months, 3 trips, period, no matter number of days in Kingdom"

I had "11 days" according to the "rules"

He claimed that it is 3 trips in 6 months, again.

Went in person to the Embassy

Talked to 3 people, same story

I got a "tourist"visa good for two entrys, for $50 usd, had to pick up next day

Asked 4 times, 4 people re: one year visa, mult enty

told ' if you own a condo or married to a thai girl" MAYBE you get one

for me, easier to get a $50 visa

btw, i have asked a dozen people at immigration at Suwanapum, never got a good answer

in fact, i got about 12 answers....TIT

Hi folks

I am coming back to thailand after being gone for a month

My wife has not been "grooming"

I seek a recent referral to a waxing salon that i can send her to

We are looking for a full "hollywood"

i have on our list

Zense of Joy on Suk Soi 23, below Califoria fitness

also Tabtim on Suk Soi 8

any other choices, more recent finds

thank you in advance

ps

wifey is thai so language not a problem

A.A. is religion in disguise.

All the "you can't control your yourself, you're helpless" is a prelude to "finding a higher power". What they don't tell you is that recovery rates with A.A. programs are exactly the same as through will power alone (about 10%).

There was a good Penn & Teller episode about A.A. where they went through the history of it, I'd recommend anyone to check it out.

Alcoholism is not a disease, it's a behaviour.

Do your homework mate

First you have to identify the subjects then you can classify them

Problem drinkers and heavy drinkers CAN quit on thier own (still might be <deleted> though)

the "Real Alcoholic" however CANNOT stay quit on his/her own

Do the homework before you quote

FYI the real recovery rate is less than 5% for "real alcoholics"

but that is a BS figure because NO ONE can get an accurate count

Oh, and the AMA ( i know the dreaded yanks ) DOES classify alcoholism as a disease

it has a etioligy, symptoms and a treatment

Actually in its current publications, the AMA tend not to use the terms 'alcoholism' or 'alcoholic' but rather refer to alcohol-related disorders, further subdivided into 'alcohol abuse disorder' and 'alcohol dependence disorder'. No mention of 'real alcoholics', whatever that means.

AMA's Clinician's Guide for Alcohol Disorders

The American Journal of Drug and Alcohol Abuse carries frequent articles on alcohol dependence (e.g., "Alcohol dependence, other psychiatric disorders, and health-related quality of life: a replication study in a large random sample of enrollees in the Veterans Health Administration"). Again use of the terms 'real alcoholic', 'alcoholic' or 'alchoholism' tends to be avoided.

To level the playing field, methinks one should define the types of alcoholics

The ONLY place i have personally seen the types described is in the AA Big Book

I know from personal first hand experiance that the above mentioned

type 1 - heavy drinker

type 2 - problem drinker

CAN quit, because ETOH is thier problem

the above types are describing Alkies only

not cross addicted bi polar, deprssive etc

Alkies only

again my prsonal first hand experiance

the type 3- "real alcoholic", his/her problem is NOT Alchohol, it is there self perscribed medication

for a 3 fold disease that is mental, spritual and physical

(i am not sold on the "disease" concept, but <deleted>, it is a easy way to describe it)

when the recovery rate for the real alkie was 75%, the 3 types were screened for

that is why the recovery rate was so high

now we lump in type 1 & 2, nuts, bi polar, depressives, addicts and misfits, becuse they drink also

to treat a person, you have to know the primary disease

my only hope is to let another guy that may be a real alkie, find a soultion that is 100% effective

the stuff below my rant are untrue statments

over the next few days i will post the reasons FACTUALLY with FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE

I dont know who wrote this BS but it may drive someone to try another method that may not work for his/her conditon

we will look at definitions

for example

I have Cancer

what does that mean? Colon, liver, stomach, lymphatic or maybe skin cancer

ALL require different treatment plans, correct?

I am Alcoholic

what does that mean?

the original litature of AA describes 3 types

(fyi- in the beginning AA had a 75% recovery rate)

Type 1= heavy drinker

Type 2= problem drinker

Type 3= "real alcoholic"

all three types require different treatment plans

get it?

you cannot lump all drinkers together

the below JUNK is WRONG right out of the gate because it says AA is about addictions. It is NOT

So it starts out WRONG

Addiction Alternatives and AA

Five major differences between the philosophy of 12-step programs and the philosophy of alternative treatment options.

This comparison chart can help you see philosophical differences, but there is no right or wrong answer.

Addiction Alternatives: Addictions are learned behaviors with biological influences and cause physical alteration and neurological changes in the way the brain functions. People vary on their degree of biological propensities.

AA: Addictions are caused by a disease, a genetic inheritance from birth.

dont know where this one come from, NOT in AA litature

Addiction Alternatives: Not everyone with an alcohol problem needs to stop drinking forever.

AA: Everyone who has ever had a drinking problem or drug abuse history must forever maintain complete abstinence from all mood/mind altering substances.

dont know where this one come from, NOT in AA litature

Addiction Alternatives: You can learn to empower yourself.

AA: You are powerless over your addiction.

dont know where this one come from, NOT in AA litature, it has been misquoted and taken out of contex

Addiction Alternatives: Belief in a higher power or anything spiritual is completely optional.

AA: A spiritual approach, including belief in a higher power, is essential to overcome your addiction.

dont know where this one come from, NOT in AA litature, it has been misquoted and taken out of contex

Addiction Alternatives: You can learn how to overcome your addiction and move on to enjoy an addiction-free life.

AA: You must attend meetings for the rest of your life because you never overcome your addiction.

dont know where this one come from, NOT in AA litature, it has been misquoted and taken out of contex

Yeah yeah yeah, i go to AA

saved my live

continues to save it

the reason AA has a bad rap is misquoted bullshit by people that have NOT done thier homework

the watered down middle of the road AA and other recovery programs KILL people because they fail to identify the REAL ALKIE and give him/her a plan that WILL work 100% sucessfully

more later if i dont get banned

A.A. is religion in disguise.

All the "you can't control your yourself, you're helpless" is a prelude to "finding a higher power". What they don't tell you is that recovery rates with A.A. programs are exactly the same as through will power alone (about 10%).

There was a good Penn & Teller episode about A.A. where they went through the history of it, I'd recommend anyone to check it out.

Alcoholism is not a disease, it's a behaviour.

Do your homework mate

First you have to identify the subjects then you can classify them

Problem drinkers and heavy drinkers CAN quit on thier own (still might be <deleted> though)

the "Real Alcoholic" however CANNOT stay quit on his/her own

Do the homework before you quote

FYI the real recovery rate is less than 5% for "real alcoholics"

but that is a BS figure because NO ONE can get an accurate count

Oh, and the AMA ( i know the dreaded yanks ) DOES classify alcoholism as a disease

it has a etioligy, symptoms and a treatment

OK,ok

so i dont post here much ( cant remember if i have before or not )

however i DO know about alcholism

i have been "sober" for 12 years thru AA

definition of sober= i dont drink or use drugs, have god in my life and try at all times to be a gentleman

def of alkie= a person who no longer can control or enjoy his drinking

and

if when you drink, you cannot predict how much you will drink or what will happen

you can could it up w/ all the many definitons and means of recovery but the facts are this:

there are three types of alkies

1) problem drinker

2) heavy drink

3)real alcoholic

type 1 and 2 there problem IS alcohol

they stop drinking and the problems disapate

type 3, his/her problem IS NOT alcohol

alcohol is a symptom of a 3 part disease

mental, physical and spiratual

this person has a physical allergy to the drug ethyl alcohol

this allergy once triggered requires more into the system

this would be no problem if he did not drink

however the type 3 alkie is driven my a mental obsession to drink

this mental obsession is caused by a spiratual malidy

RARELY in all the world wide BS re: treatment do people discuss this

i could go on and on, but i am on my way to a meeting

fyi

you dont "have" to go to meetings the rest of your life

as a type 3 "recovered" alcoholic i "want" to go because part of my staying sober

is i "get" to help new guys become "recovered"

fyi 2

i live in southern california and have seen myself hundreds of guys that came in, didnt buy into AA

try some other treatment (there are heaps) and come back to AA because nothing worked for them IF they are type 3 alkies...................

Rodeoooo............sorry mate. From what you tell us here on this thread..........she is just after your money or wants a free ride. I think asking for money is wrong....can't she be self sufficient?? Supporting her and her kids are all right but I dont think you should be supporting others as well especially her brothers kids????.............they will keep on coming and coming and coming...........it will just never end. Trust me, it will NEVER stop.  If this is what you want, then go for it.

what i have come to, and was clear from the start, is just tell her the truth

wish her the best and give her a parting load on her atm card

You should know her best..........so decide what you want to do and do it! Good luck!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

thanx sk1972

no more walking atm

i wish her the best

thanx for your support

Sorry i offended some of your sensitive egos with my sign in

i find it odd that i got flamed on this board but only honest solutions

(with of course the humor) on the other popular board

As for me, i live in the US, have known the TG for a year

have been back to LOS 7 times to visit

couple of 2 week trips and the rest 5-7 days

have been upcountry once to the village

kept an apt in bkk for her for a while, but since she

wasnt learning any english, she elected to move back upcountry

hasnt asked for too much money, just all the time, annoying mostly, and always at the last minute.

we have no kids

she has mom and 2 kids

recently she needed 2,500 us for her father

she did not get it

now has had 3 of brothers kids move in

so, if i bring her here (usa) i have mom & 5 kids to support here

not me

also, the petty arguments and pouting the moment i get to LOS

not willing to put up with them

what i have come to, and was clear from the start, is just tell her the truth

wish her the best and give her a parting load on her atm card

OK Boys,

Suggestions to break up with Fiance?

Too many problems, $$, kids, mum etc.

Great gal, just dont want to marry and support the entire village

Also, how to keep her from tracking me down in Bkk when i am in country

If she does see me with the next Mrs. Right...what should i do

thanx in advance

rod

Folks

Repeat big THANK YOU for your input

I am a bit busy craming 4 weeks work into 3 so i can visit

my fiance....so a long recap will be forth coming

Please keep the posts coming...thanxs

rob

######...

Thank you for your opinion. We both have them.

At the risk of being flamed by a "senior member"

...... interesting the most negative response is from you.

hmmmm.......

Hello my friends

as to the last post....

my TGF lives in a studio 20 min from sukemvit on the bts

she regularly gets items lifted from her apt

when i come to LOS, we stay at a full service hotel

(ok, i am a snob, what can i say, i like room service!)

since we have hooked up she has spent most of her time

upcountry with the family ( i talk to her kids, mom & sister on phone )

she will be spending 4 days a week in bkk to go to english and computer

school

is she still working? dont think so

my eyes are WIDE open

i will be hiring a PI to verify info also

fyi

the last southern california girl i dated...

went out 6 months before i found out she had 2 kids, not 1

smoked and drank, was in a 5 year lawsuit, went bankrupt twice

was unemployable and was seening a psychiatrist and pschholigist

(sorry for spelling) and was on 2 different meds from each one

the one before that, didnt meet her kids for 3 months

then found out why

the girl i married from the midwest "good moral values" etc.

cheated on me within 2 months

i am sober 9 years, go to a mens meeting regular

@ 40 guys, very, very few have the perfect marraige

all said and done, Thai, american, german, uk,

remember this " they sit down to pee "

r

ps

i REALLY appreciate ALL input

keep it coming folks

i have this fantasy that a "loving, kind, supportive" relationship

REALLY is posible in this day and time...

Ok folks,

dont flame me right away, ok?

First, I am 48, single, have lived worldwide

Sold timeshare for 10 years, now do another type of

(honest) sales....so i have seen a hussle or two and

some real good liars, cheats and con men/women....

Have been to LOS several times and know the dangers of

my plan.

That said and done, here is the plan:

Fiance visa in process, finish @ June

Coming to LOS mid feb to present the engagement ring

(Valentines day)

Will meet Mom and some family on this trip

Back to LOS March or April for the Buddist wedding

Will be in LOS every 4-6 weeks for a week

Once visa in hand, bring the Princess to California

Visa is for 90 days, marry or go home

Fiance will be in English school till she gets here

Once in California, get her aclimated, then @ 30 days in CA,

have her sign the Pre nep, then marry in California

Result:

7 month engagement, she happy, i am protected

pretty well

Specific Questions:

When meeting Mom for first time what is Protacal

do i bring her a gift?

what kind of gift?

do i bring her brothers/sisters gifts?

what type

she has 2 kids, and i will be bringing them gifts

what kind?

Buddist wedding:

protacol

gift to monk?

present to village / village elders?

Her new apartment:

(willupgrade her apt so i can quit paying hotels)

how much should i pay for a furnished 1 bedroom

with kitchen and hi speed internet access?

Gents ( and i hope ladies)

thank you for bearing with the long post

ANY comments are appreciated

The info i have gleaned from this forum has made my trips

to LOS much more enjoyable and most of all made

it possible to scout for my Mate

Disclamer: yes, i have read ALL the posts her of the horror stories

i am not thinking all times with my little head, have distanced my

self in analyizing the situation. (My job involves travel, and for 3 months

have NOT called my regular girls, and have turned down the screen scratchers

at home,,,this has Never happened...)

AA works!

The Fellowship in Bkk is grand.

Also in Phuket.

Go to a meeting every day

Call 3 alkys a day

Get a sponsor

Study (not read the Big Book)

Take the Steps ( in order)

You will have a life you never dreamed of...

10 years ago i went to an AA meeting

i had warrents in 3 states in USA

a Federal (nationwide) inditment

NO one was speaking to me

I owed the Tax man over $300,000 usd

today..

i am debt free

own my own business

travel the world

and the best part of all...

marrying a fine Thai woman

NONE possible without AA

God (or budda) bless your friend

Ok folks,

dont flame me right away, ok?

First, I am 48, single, have lived worldwide

Sold timeshare for 10 years, now do another type of

(honest) sales....so i have seen a hussle or two and

some real good liars, cheats and con men/women....

Have been to LOS several times and know the dangers of

my plan.

That said and done, here is the plan:

Fiance visa in process, finish @ June

Coming to LOS mid feb to present the engagement ring

(Valentines day)

Will meet Mom and some family on this trip

Back to LOS March or April for the Buddist wedding

Will be in LOS every 4-6 weeks for a week

Once visa in hand, bring the Princess to California

Visa is for 90 days, marry or go home

Fiance will be in English school till she gets here

Once in California, get her aclimated, then @ 30 days in CA,

have her sign the Pre nep, then marry in California

Result:

7 month engagement, she happy, i am protected

pretty well

Specific Questions:

When meeting Mom for first time what is Protacal

do i bring her a gift?

what kind of gift?

do i bring her brothers/sisters gifts?

what type

she has 2 kids, and i will be bringing them gifts

what kind?

Buddist wedding:

protacol

gift to monk?

present to village / village elders?

Her new apartment:

(willupgrade her apt so i can quit paying hotels)

how much should i pay for a furnished 1 bedroom

with kitchen and hi speed internet access?

Gents ( and i hope ladies)

thank you for bearing with the long post

ANY comments are appreciated

The info i have gleaned from this forum has made my trips

to LOS much more enjoyable and most of all made

it possible to scout for my Mate

Disclamer: yes, i have read ALL the posts her of the horror stories

i am not thinking all times with my little head, have distanced my

self in analyizing the situation. (My job involves travel, and for 3 months

have NOT called my regular girls, and have turned down the screen scratchers

at home,,,this has Never happened...)