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get educated before making another misinformed post on this topic.

... search for ' bird flu hoax ' on Google...

LMAO!! Really? This is a joke right?

Nope. No joke. I admit, 'hoax' isn't really the best word to describe it but that's what will help you find the right info.

Watch the Bird Flu Hoax video presentation on YouTube (referenced in the quoted post above) if you're too lazy to read.

it may be spreading but the symptoms seem to be milder than the usual flu we get in the UK. The reason people died in Mexico initially was because of poor and slow access to medical treatment.

Mexicans brought the swine flu to the U.S. and it spread throughout the world. Mexico is a cesspool and its people easily travel back and forth to the U.S. bringing tuberculosis, cholera, veneral diseases as well as crime. Swine flu made its way to another cesspool, New York City, by U.S. students who traveled to Cancun, Mexico on Spring Break. Filth more than being poor and not having access to medical treatment is the major reason for swine flu in Mexico. Poor people do not necessarily have to be filthy. It is a choice.

Ugh... I smell ignorance.

I somehow doubt Grey11 has ever traveled Mexico -- which is beautiful, by the way (for those who don't know from experience).

It's been a while since I've seen this much bad, false, assumed, and generally opinionated information all in one topic. I would suggest that everybody who wants to know about the PANDEMIC that has already been declared, and acknowledged that it was declared much later than it should have been, that you stop reading this topic, except of course for the entertainment value, and actually seek out and read the CDC, WHO and UN findings and information releases regarding this topic.

But hey, that's just my suggestion.

Yes, and your suggestion should be taken with a grain of salt.

The WHO & UN are known to be involved in population reduction experiments, and both Thailand and Mexico were listed as "threats" to US security, among others, back in 1974... Egypt was also listed, and a major food source there (pork) was recently ordered to be destroyed before there was ever one case of A-H1N1 in all of the African continent or even a case found in pigs! Coincidence? Maybe. Most likely not.

See my post above for more info.

it may be spreading but the symptoms seem to be milder than the usual flu we get in the UK. The reason people died in Mexico initially was because of poor and slow access to medical treatment.

@Padrino:

No, the reason people died is usually because of poor health due to poor nutrition, pre-existing illnesses, exposure to chemicals and/or flu related symptoms.

This is such a non-issue. This will never amount to anything really serious. Between 250,000 and 500,000 people die annually,

worldwide, from the normal flu. So far, 141 people have died of the swine flu, this year. Compared to approximately 125,000

to date this year for the other flu. Which flu would you rather have? Of the 27,000 people infected to date, 141 have died. Do

the math. This is a media based hysteria. There is nothing to it. I am not concerning myself for a nanosecond over this.

I totally agree with your attitude.

So who's paying the controlled media to hype this up and get all the sheeple scared?

And why is Thai Visa bothering to make a statistic into breaking news?

Lets just have some good news - even if it's just imaginary, we'd all feel better

Agreed! haha

Perhaps you should educate yourself and review the potential for the current H1N1 virus to combine with the far more deadly Bird Flu virus that is more or less endemic in this region, the result of that mating would likely mirror or exceed the effects of the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic that killed over 50 million. Whilst the current "bug" has a low fatality rate it its human to human transmission rate is exceptional - the bird flu virus by way of contrast has low transmission rate but its kill rate is exceptionally high. That's why the WHO and TV publish these notes so that people can understand. Got it now!

@Chiang Mai:

Please stop cockily parroting the corporate media, and get educated before making another misinformed post on this topic. Sorry if that sounds harsh.

To make up for it, I'll help you get started.

1. A-H1N1 ("Swine Flu") has genetic material from swine flu, bird flu and regular human flu. These types of combinations don't occur in nature, it is believed by numerous scientists to have been created in a laboratory, in fact there are current ongoing investigations regarding this.

2. The "Bird Flu" is also considered to be a biological weapon. All it takes is a search for ' bird flu hoax ' on Google to get some really great info on that topic via articles and video. On YouTube start with: ' Bird Flu Hoax pt. 1 ' for a detailed presentation or to get the exact video search YouTube for: VLT0_xMeLjI

3. So many people died in 1918 not from the "Spanish Flu" but from the related symptoms, namely strep infections, and the effects of the vaccines they were pushing. There's much more to this, but find plenty of articles on this by searching Google for: ' 1918 spanish flu strep infection '. The above video series is also essential viewing on this related topic starting at around Part 4.

4. The corporate media is owned and controlled by eugenist "elite" who want to basically kill 80-95% of the world's population, and animal-based influenza scares along with the associated profit-making, lethal, paralyzing (search: 1976 swine flu vaccine paralyzation) and de-fertilizing vaccines (search: ' nigeria polio vaccine HIV sterilization ', ' UNICEF philippines vaccination b-hCH ') are just are one way to control food supply and population growth in '3rd world' countries deemed to be a threat. (search ' kissinger population reduction ' )

"Climate change" hype as a method of control is also being widely employed and these "elite" haven't been shy about this lately either. By the way these rich families (Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc) are also major funders of the World Health Organization.

Have a read through the quotes below:

“We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

- Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports

“Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.”

- Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC

“It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.”

- Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace

“We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.”

- Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

- Christine Stewart, fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment

“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.”

- emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

“We require a central organizing principle - one agreed to voluntarily. Minor shifts in policy, moderate improvement in laws and regulations, rhetoric offered in lieu of genuine change - these are all forms of appeasement, designed to satisfy the public’s desire to believe that sacrifice, struggle and a wrenching transformation of society will not be necessary.”

- Al Gore, Earth in the Balance

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?”

- Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

“A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation.”

- Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies

“The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.”

- Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund

“Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.”

- Professor Maurice King

“Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it.”

- Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

“The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.”

- Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

“Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.”

- Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

“The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil.”

– Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview

“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”

-Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

- Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor

“… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion.”

- Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind

“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

- Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund

“I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”

- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

“The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.”

- Christopher Manes, Earth First!

“Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”

- David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

i'm going to bangkok trip on AUG , dont know what to do.. should i cancel my trip or not.. but lets see. more careful

Don't cancel your trip. Here's what to do -- get educated.

Read up on the details of A/H1N1 here by typing:

swine flu mercola

into Google and read everything on the first 2 results:

"Critical Alert: The Swine Flu Pandemic – Fact or Fiction?"

and

"Important Swine Flu Update"

This is nothing to get all worked up over, despite what the drug companies want you to believe.

From February 15, 2009 all Thai Immigration offices has been strictly instructed that foreigners have to use the Immigration office that has administrative jurisdiction over the area where they live.

What's the definition of "where they live"?

How would this apply to someone just traveling around Thailand?