tim51

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Hi Tim51..............that has been discussed on TV many times over and the fact is that although you may own the house, getting to stay/live in it is an entirely different matter esp if the g/f, wife and family want you gone.

 

Your life can be made a misery, so not a solution I'm afraid.

Xylophone,

Perhaps you have a point.  I am only talking legal rights, the legal right to own my house and live on my leased land until I die. 19 years in my beach house so far, no problems.  I also spent a lot of time getting to know my wife's family before marriage, speak and read the language, and owned my home long before  I met my wife.   Even though I was very careful in choosing my spouse, my wife now knows I have wills and things arranged in the event of my death, so that I am worth a lot more to my Thai family alive than dead, when my sister abroad will control most of my assets.   I get along great with the in laws, who happen to live 1000 km away.

"getting to stay/live in it is an entirely different matter esp if the g/f, wife and family want you gone"

Maybe, maybe not.    Unfortunately, my first Thai wife died in a car accident.  Her will left everything to me and named me as estate administrator.  Her family wasted money trying to get my house.  I won in court.  Minimal legal fees for me.  My ducks were in a row.  30 years in LOS without any misery,  so if my life is going to be made a misery it will have to happen soon.

As the OP said "Better safe than sorry."

1 hour ago, wolf81 said:

I am not married but have a Thai girlfriend and daughter. We're building a house for a lot less money, about 1.5 million baht. Personally I'd be ok to walk away from this property and leave it to my GF and daughter if we ever had any problems. But I am also happy to not spend more. And my GF is kinda sometimes hinting me to marry her, but I will avoid it. I feel if we'd be married, she or our daughter might be entitled to my oversees properties and that could cause problems for me eventually.

Better safe than sorry. 

Why not do a little research and find out your rights and alternatives?  A will or two?  Put the house in your name only?  Life insurance with only daughter as beneficiary?  Only you control your bank accounts and ATM cards,   etc.  Lots of ways to avoid the financial problems some expats make for themselves here.  Get the correct info before spending the money. Talk to the experts (who are not sitting on the next bar stool).  And thoroughly vet the  lucky lady and her family before doing anything serious.

"Better safe than sorry"

<happily married 10 + years>

4 hours ago, marko kok prong said:

I am building a house at present,it is large and will probably come in at around 5/6 million baht. My Wife[my second Thai wife} does not have a big family unlike my ex,and they have never asked me for anything. I trust my Wife,but only up to a certain extent,i have told her if she ever tries to #&** me over i will demolished the house and another we own. I have plenty of money overseas,so whilst dissapointing it would not really affect me financially,i certainley would not kill myself,as another poster said never spend more than you can walk away from.

Why not own the house yourself? Foreigners can own houses and lease the land they sit on for 30 years plus renewals.

"Six army officers accused of beating to death an army private in Yala province have been ordered to apologize in front of the victim’s body placed at a temple in Nakhon Si Thammarat province."

Is that not going to compromise any future trial if they are going to plead not guilty?

Have you ever been in a Thai court?

I have been in Thai courts many times (not as plaintiff, defendant, or prosecutor, etc.) related to my work. I think Bluespunk makes a good point. Perhaps you are implying criminal defendants always plead guilty? Or what? I don't understand your post. Can you kindly clarify?

If one follows the link provided in the opening post of this thread, surely not too difficult, there is more information in links on that page, including:

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/158362

Colonel Pramote Prom-in, spokesman of the forward command of the Internal Security Operations Commands Region 4, said Tuesday that initial finding confirmed that the seven officers were accountable for the death of Private Songtham Moodmud, 23, who was based at Payak garrison in Bannang Sata district.

Regarding criminal charges against the seven officers, Colonel Pramote said that the matter would rest with the police who will lodge charges against them.

There, not so difficult was it?

Sorry if this doesn't fit the narrative of so many on this forum, but according to that well known local newspaper that I understand we can't link to here, all 6 of the accused were quickly detained, pending further action. "The six soldiers are Sub Lt. Patthanat Lertchaikul, who is being jailed for 30 days, and five other non-commissioned officers, now in detention for 45 days."

So you did not get your extension. They gave you an extension to visit your wife.

Thats why no 90 day report date.

Yes, but the way I see it, Tim moved from one type of extension to another one without leaving Thailand, which means the current 90-days report due date remains due!

In Tim's case I would file the 90 days report as due. If it is not needed nothing is lost, if needed and not filed it will cost 2,000Baht.

Better safe than sorry.

opalhort

Thanks for the comment. So if I had applied to extend my retirement visa, the 90 day reporting would not be necessary now, but because I applied for the spousal visa the 90 day period didn't reset? Don't understand why that would be the case, since the documentation submitted was the same, plus the evidence of marriage.

It is not convenient to make the trip to do the 90 day reporting since it will take the better part of a day to do that in person (no immigration office in Chumphon), and it is too late to do it by mail I think, so I will do it only if necessary.

Yes, my pp was stamped เยี่มคูสมรส (visit spouse)

Sorry, I didn't answer your question.

They gave me 60 day visa extension and told me to go to Surat Thani for the next extension.

Thanks very much for the fast response, Joe.

BTW, at Suan Plu there was no discussion of the 90 day reporting issue. Probably because they were focussed on the issue that I should be applying for my married man visa in Surat Thani, since I live in Chumphon.

Re 90 day reporting

I last entered Thailand on Oct 16, 2008 with my 1 year retirement visa due to expire Jan. 9, 2009.

Instead of renewing the retirement visa, I obtained a married man's visa on Jan. 6. Do I still have to do a 90 day report within 90 days of Oct. 16, 2008, or did the extension of stay application processing and obtention of the married man's visa sufficiently satisfy that requirement, and a new 90 day reporting period begin on Jan. 6, 2009?

I saw on the government website that "The first application for extension of stay by the foreigner is equivalent to the notification of staying in the Kingdom over 90 days", but that isn't my situation, and though my circumstances are somewhat analogous, I know better than to try logic with such matters.

As usual, I can't get through on the phone to Suan Plu, so your assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you. I guess I'll use some of that 800,000 baht for the holidays and have my wife make the trip with me for the extension next month.

My question is, does my Thai wife have to accompany me when I extend my retirement visa?

Here's my situation. I have had a retirement visa for two years, renewed annually in Bangkok. I comes up for renewal again in 2 weeks. To meet the financial requirement, I have had 800,000 baht in a Thai bank savings account for the last 3 + years. I married a Thai national 4 months ago. I understand that now I could qualify for an extension of my visa with 400,000 on deposit. If my understanding is incorrect, please tell me.

My marriage was properly registered, my wife changed her family name to mine on her Thai ID card (bat prachachon), and we recorded her in the house registration book for my house (I own the house and the house registration book lists me as head of household (jao ban). If I take an original marriage certificate, the 2 house registration books house (foreigners have a yellow book, Thais' are blue), a confirmed copy of my wife's ID card and all the other required documents to the Suan Plu immigration office, will I be able to extend my retirement visa if my wife doesn't attend with me? There isn't any funny business going on, it is just a matter of convenience.

By the way, how do you get information by phone from the Suan Plu office? No one answers the phone at the call center no. 1178, though I have probably called 50 times today. I can get through on other numbers, but they only refer me to the call center. I can speak Thai quite well, so communication isn't an issue; they just don't want to answer any questions, I think because they view that as the job of the call center. Any helpful suggestions?

Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.