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I mean that a sport bike like the mentioned CBR / VFR / GSXR / Etc are quite a kind of different ride style of bike than the naked middleweight machines like the CB400 and the XJR400 which are more tour / all rounders.. Of course the VTEC CB400's are no slouch but the seating and bar positions leave very different ride feel between these 2 styles.

Kinda why I liked the Bandit 4 as it was tight chassis, sharp feeling handling.. But with a semi upright seating feel and not all weight on your hands. I possibly feel that more than most as both being a bit heavy and a bit tall tend to be tipped forward on the small sport 400s more than say someone 6ft or under.

I am 6foot 2 inches. Might be uncomfortable? What about compared to the CBR 150. I didn't notice any stress on comfort driving the CBR 150 400 kms without stopping.

Thanks everyone for the replies. I am back from Pattaya now. rented a CB400 for one day, starting the afternoon, and stayed the night, giving back the next afternoon, and now I'm home.

It was a whole new dimension. I'm not an experienced rider, and have had no formal training or testing, like necessary in Canada. I have had a Wave and a CBR and have driven many hours every day in Bangkok traffic and on highways for about 3 months. Thats my teacher. I dropped the Wave once with a 200 pound guy on the back, when I car cut me off and I slammed on the brakes too hard while turning at the same time. Rationally I know that you cannot be skidding and turning at the same time, but it was just a reaction. I learned from it. No other real problems. I feel quite confident thus far, and the CB400 was a blast. Took it up and down Beach Road a little too fast for the amount of cars and people around, and blasted up and down Sukumwit. Hit 180 quite easily. Wow. It is a whole new dimension. I got on my CBR150 to come home and it felt like a little toy. Vibrating like hel_l when you get to 110km/h.

The CB400 was very quick and very smooth and very comfortable, and I had assumed that the XJ400 would be fairly similar. As well, it is only 3 inches wider so I still made through tight spots, and never held up any anxious Waves behind me. The Waves were holding me up! The weight was hardly noticeable. With my girlfriend on the back I had no problem turning/driving slowly and balancing.

The CBR400 and the VFR400 do look/sound very nice. I definitely want to get a 400 now. I do alot of highway traveling and sight seeing, and the CBR 150 just won't cut it anymore. But I was hoping for something more comfortable for my girlfriend, though she said the seat on the CB wasn't much better than the CBR150. So maybe I could get a sports bike instead. I had previously ruled it out due to the preconceived notion that the CB would be more comfortable. What I need is a new seat on ANY bike. With the right seat mods / material, could she sit decently and noticeably better than a stock CBR150, on say a CBR400 or VFR400?

Also, what kind of fuel do these 400s consume?

You guys have been a huge help!

Proper little howler.. But the VFR / CBR / GSXR / sport 400's are all a step away from the CB400 / XJR400 of the OP..

I don't understand what mean by a step away in regards to the "OP."

Also, I want a bike that is more comfortable for my girlfriend to ride on for highway traveling.

I'm going to go to Pattaya to test drive a cb400 or xjr. I want to stay over night, but don't want to spend much on sleeping in a room for 8 hours. I don't need anything fancy and want to spend as little as possible.

Are they even renting them in Pattaya anymore? Haven't been down the Patts in a while, thought they would have gotten rid of most of the big bikes with the BiB crackdown.

I was there maybe a week ago. Just took a trip there to test the CBR. I've only been there once so I don't know how many is tons, but there was alot. No shortage. Lots of people trying to sell their services.

I did a border run from BKK to Poipet, Cambodia and back all in one day with only 2 hours break at the border and my girlfriend on the back. It took a total of 12 hours and I was back in Bangkok. LoL. Maybe 800km total round trip. I enjoyed it actually. Now I only drive the CBR though. It's much better.

^ why don't you go rent one?

Hmm. How much does it cost. Can I do a 1 day rental.

I heard the insurance is no good when renting? I could be off on that one. It is a vague memory.

Rental for a 400 would be about 500B a day (Pattaya) Insurance.......none. U bend it u pay for it.

If you are a sensible driver you shouldnt have any problems, choose a quiet area to drive around first get used to it.

I have a CBR150 and have rented a CBR600 (800 a day) several times. More than twice the power of the 400 (6 times that of the 150) and no problems. Drove from Rayong to Khon Khaen and back plus commuting to work 65km everyday for a week.

Must say my CBR400 feels very tame compared to the 600 tho.

I'm in Bangkok. Maybe I could take a one day trip to Pattaya.

The CBR 150 is a great bike.....very hard to fault. But the CB400 is a whole new dimension ......comfortable and smooth ....smooth power that doesnt run out when u need it most. Easy to ride...just need get used to the extra weight which doesnt take long. Maybe not quite so nippy in heavy city traffic.

Does use considerably more gasolene tho.....

Oooo baby! Now I want it. I was thinking for highway traveling as I do alot of it for fun and sightseeing. I would keep the CBR150 for convenience.

It only weights an extra 30 kg, and it's width is only 3 inches more. I noticed the CBR was a bit harder to turn in really tight positions in the traffic than the previous Wave I owned, and I would expect the CB to be maybe a tad more so. But it's length and width is only a hair more than the CBR. It just weights more and the engine sticks out more.

^ why don't you go rent one?

Hmm. How much does it cost. Can I do a 1 day rental.

I heard the insurance is no good when renting? I could be off on that one. It is a vague memory.

I have a Honda Wave 125cc bike that I bought a couple months ago from a Thai seller with the help of my girlfriend. It had 29k kms on it, and I believe it has 31k now. I drove to Cambodia with it and did a lot of adventuring around closer provinces (all with my girlfriend on the back). As well I drove it every day to run errands, and go to work. I did drive it alot in 2 months. But it hasn't been driven in about 2 weeks because I got a CBR 150. I no longer need it. the Wave is 4 speed, automatic clutch, front disk break and rear dum, and it has never let me down. I don't know what to say. It is a Honda Wave... I have the green book and all papers and the insurance is good until the end of the year. It is in my loyal girlfriend's name for easy transfer. It is a 5 year old model.

So it has never let me down. It took a couple minutes to start the other day, after sitting all alone for 2 weeks, (no problems when used regularly) and back when I took it to Cambodia (on the way back) the chain started slipping. Luckily I was right by a mechanic shop on the highway. Very lucky. He swapped the chain, through the old one in the trash, tightened it up, and no problems since. The old chain appeared to be fairly old and looked like it needed a change. As well, the plastic chain guard that bolts on after (I don't even thinks its necessary) rattles often when accelerating in 1st or 2nd gear. It is nothing wrong with the hard mechanics. I have taken it off and put it back on. It stopped rattling for 2 days, but then started again. Nothing detrimental.

Can't think of anything else to say. 10k baht. Half a tank of gas.

I am in Bangkok. Maybe can drive it to close provinces.

email = [email protected]

phone = 0859971159

I'm looking to test drive a CB or XJR 400.

I have a CBR 150 right now and have never driven a 400 before.

How could I do this? Maybe find and add and ask to test drive?

Any other ways?

I saw this advertisement on craig's list.

http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/mcy/1103354844.html

It says it is a TZR 150, but I couldn't find anything about TZR 150s. Just 125s or 250s.

He claims 200+km/h..

Who thinks this is accurate.

I don't have a high command of motorcycle knowledge.

Just curious. I'm not looking for 200km/h or anything, but have been looking at SR 400s and GB 400s. I like the style and want a small bike with a bigger engine. I currently have a CBR 150, and would like something with just a bit more guts for the highway. I like the style too of the SR/GB. But how does and SR400 do on the highway, lets say compared to the Ninja 250?

I mean the SR only has 5 gears, but its 400cc. Long gears I hope?

If you're looking on Mocy.com, you can search for ads that list the bike as having the Tabien Tae (real green book), this may save you some time in finding something that has a greater chance of being legal.

Where is this search option? Not on the main classifieds search section is it?

Hi Lenny,

If you are not a troll (and I hope tou are not!), maybe that can help:

In principal: when you are going for a second hand bike, check and ride the bike for sure, but CHECK the ORIGINAL GREEN book (not a photocopy or whatever!). That's to say: frame and engine numbers and color (same ones on the bike as in its book)... Numbers can be re-stamped and sometimes very well (only X-Ray can show the "work")... If private sell check too the name in the book and the name of the supposed owner in front of you (avoid the "the owner is a friend" or "the bike is in my aunt's name" and the like)...

Then, if all correct, ask the seller to come with you to the Transportation Office to change the book in your name and tell him you will pay when you will get the book with your name in your own hands (you can offer the lunch or coffee or coke or whatever to be smart)... If the seller is not OK to spend 2 or 4 hours there, better to cancel the purchase: maybe he knows his bike is not legal and can't be transfered for whatever reason...

When all done OK, as a rule you know your bike is "legal"... As a rule, you ought not to have problems in the future... I don't enter here in the bike transfering process from a province to another. It can be an other "special" story to be told...

About your choice, maybe define first a budget and the use and needs you expect from this bike.

One SR400 is not one XJ400, one Clubman is not one CB400... They are all nice bikes as well but there specs are so different!..

Please friends correct me if something wrong or add something through your good advices...

Cheers,

Gobs

Thanks soo much Gobs. Very assuring reply.

Yes, with both bikes so far I've had the green book put in my name, with all paper work, insurance, etc, etc.

I like the style of the Clubman or SR. The XJ and CB don't seem classic at all. They just shared the same 400cc spec so I ended up looking at them too and comparing. I like the style of the classic bikes, and I'm just looking for something a bit bigger than the CBR 150 I have, (bigger in cc / power, not nessesarily size) and the SR/GBs seem to be about the same size and only 35kg more in weight, and has the 400cc engine. What I was thinking was a better highway bike, but still something small and maneuverable, and a change. I figured a 400cc bike could cruise on the highway easy The CBR 150 is fine, but I'm cruising at high RPMs the whole time so it isn't very much of a cruise. Ya know? I think the CBR 150 has 17 hp or something, and the SR/GB both around 26? But then the XJ/CB has somewhere in the low 50s? Comparable to the CBR, 26hp sounds good to me. I don't need triple the HP I have now on an XJ or anything. I had assumed an SR/GB 400 could cruise on the highway easy, but then found out it only has 5 gears. I have been looking around online but it is hard to find details about the bike in regards to top speed, cruising speed, etc, etc. How is it comparable to the CBR 150? It is obviously much lower than the XJ/CB.

I really don't want a big bike. Most 400s start to look a bit too big and bulky for my current desires, but I noticed the SR/GB did not. I've seen SRs in person too and it looked like a very nice size, but sounded wicked. Took off fast and smooth. A low rumble.

I see SR/GB 400s for 40k. My budget could be 40-60k. I see XJ/CBs for 60k every day on mocyc.com.

Well that makes sense. Second last gear gets to about 130 easily. Last gear pushes it just past 140.

BTW: In my last post I meant to say that the SRX in the link had LOST, not lots, its "classicness."

Awww, but then looking back on mocyc.com, those Clubmans look so nice. I love that look. That SRX has lots of "classicness." Besides, I'd be keeping my CBR 150, so I might as well have two varying styles.

lennya then you have lost a gear because they had 6 gears from the very 1st production cbr150, Peaceblondie had a 2003 which was the 1st year and that had 6 gears. better go check your bike. its 1 down then 5 up,

and in 6th it should be doing about 9,000 - 9.500rpm at 130kmh.

There is a legal! Yamaha srx400 for 82,000baht on bahtsold._om

Allan

The Repsol edition too? Thats strange. The seller said it had 5 gears. Same with my Thai friend who seems have driven alot of everything and is a mechanic. Going up I only notice 5 gears. Yes, down, up, up, up, up. But going down I often question it because sometimes it doesn't change gears.

In the top gear it doesn't go much faster than 140km/h, but it gets there easy. Maybe 150km/h with a long straight away.

What is ideal cruising RPM on the highway for efficiency?

How does a 5 speed Sr or GB 400 do?

BTW: that SRX on bahtsold is fuc_king beautiful. I wish I had the money... Wow... Looks perfect. I feel it in my heart..

I've seen 10 Sr 400s and GB 400s listed on mocyc.com. So if I call and they say they it is registered and has the books then it is ok? Or does this mean it is a counterfeit.

"the width is the handlebars. easily changed."

thanks whomever that was

But the Sr/GB 400s only have 5 gears. What is maximum cruising speed without going full throttle.

BTW I have a 5 year old Repsol that only has 5 gears, unlike the new CBRs. The Repsol can't cruise much higher than 100km/h in 5th gear without mingling in high revs.

Hi firstly a Honda Clubman is a GB400 and that and a SR400 are both good classic bikes I am checking out to buy.

YOUR problem is 98.9% are unregistered and have been imported illegally. 1% have 'counterfiet books' that are even more seriously illegal. That is a big problem for those living in BKK/CM/Pattaya as the Police WILL and DO impound your 'pride and joy.' Its not a problem (yet) here in Isaan.

XJ/CB = modern biking

GB/SR = classic biking

I think you seem to be more interested in speed rather than the classic bike scene, so I wonder if you would be better suited to a modern(ish) registered 250 like say the Tiger 250RS or other Jap alternatives?

Dave

Well I saw an SR 400 the other day and dam_n I did like the style and presence of the bike. I was actually almost turned off by the XJ/CB in comparison to the GB/SR's look and style. So was is maximum displacement that is legal to register? I am in BKK so yes that is a problem. So if I want to do fairly legal and not have it in impounded, then I should say away from __________?

Jeeze, when I saw the SR the other day a nice looking Thai man hopped on and drove off with no worries. He didn't look like he was driving illegally or have the potential to have his rumbling baby taken by the police. I see bigger bikes all the time. 400cc isn't even very big.

Wow, but another site just said the SR-400 weighs 150 kg... Hm...

Ill go with 115 kg for the CBR and 150 for the SR 400... It then says the Honda CB 400 and Yamaha XJ 400 both weigh about 175kgs, but have almost double the horsepower of the SR 400.. Same displacement though...

And the SR, XJ, CB are only 3-4 inches wider than the CBR... Could still make it through traffic.

I found the weight. Sr 400 - about 130kg. CBR 150 - about 115 kgs. Fairly close.

Now it says the CBRs overall width is 25.7 inches. I'd like to know the SR 400's.

First off, is it legal to have a 400cc bike in Thailand? How does it work? Obviously it works...

I have a CBR 150 Repsol, and have been looking at some bigger "road bikes."

I have noticed particularly the Yamaha SR 400 or XJ 400 and the Honda Clubman 400 or CL, because they are not so bulky and big, but still maintain the 400 cc engine. They look still light and slim enough to do well in the Bangkok traffic. They look much slimmer and lighter than say the CBR-400, or many other bulkier 400cc models, and besides I'd like a style change. I noticed they still only have 5 gears. I wish my CBR had 6, because you are even hitting higher revs at 110 KM/h. I have taken highway trips on it, and it just feel uncomfortable, like I am constantly gunning it just to keep up with or go slightly faster than traffic at 120/130km/h. How would one of these cruise, accelerate, and handle compared to my CBR 150? How much heavier?

Any other comments? I'm not motorbike pro.

Thanks.

With a visa you do not need proof of onward travel to enter Thailand.

I presume you have a multiple non-B. Each time you enter Thailand you get 90 days. Leave and re-enter Thailand just before the visa expires and you will get a new 90 day's, giving you almost 15 months.

I thought that was probably the case. My main concern was being able to drive a motorbike there, go through the process, and leave back to Bangkok with it. Is highway 33 a motorway or could a motorbike take that route? I never saw one post relating to motorbikes and visa runs. It must be very rare? Why?

Can I drive my motorbike to the border at Poipet? I have a Non- Imm B Visa that is good until March 2010. Will I need proof of onward travel with this visa?

I'd like to do the trip via my own motorcycle.