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3 hours ago, jvs said:

For the umpteenth time!The Ukraine did not go into this war!It was putin all the way!

I do agree you are basically saying the Ukraine is fighting and dying for the West,i hope that will change soon.As far as the F-16s go, they can also use airport in neighboring countries.

That will be a problem for putin.

Sure he will spout more talk but i believe that is all it is,he has been crying escalation since the first outside arms reached the Ukraine.

If you are watching what russian TV are saying,they are going to nuke all of Europe any time now!

Putin has only respect for one thing,true powerful opposition.!!!!!!

There is no question that Russia is aggressor since 2022 as far as its relationship with Ukraine is concerned but wouldn't you agree that US and NATO are to blame for the cause of the troubles (starting in 2014)?

Part of statement from NATO summit in 2008

"NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO.  We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO.  Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations."

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_8443.htm

20 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

“Hamas has been holding our hostages in Rafah, which is why our forces are operating in Rafah"

Want the war to end?
Tell Hamas to free the Hostages and surrender.

 

His statement contradicts Netanyahu's idea from few weeks ago.

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Netanyahu said Israel would enter Rafah, which Israel says is Hamas’ last stronghold, regardless of whether a truce-for-hostages deal is struck. His comments appeared to be meant to appease his nationalist governing partners but it was not clear whether they would have any bearing on any emerging deal with Hamas.

“The idea that we will stop the war before achieving all of its goals is out of the question,” Netanyahu said, according to a statement from his office. “We will enter Rafah and we will eliminate Hamas’ battalions there — with or without a deal, to achieve the total victory.”

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https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-04-30-2024-f5e14fd176d69f9c4e23b48f3ab5af6a

21 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Palestinians will keep fighting until they get what they want , that is why they cannot live peacefully on the land and that is why they need to be removed from the land 

What is the issue with giving them what they want? By them I am referring to Palestinians not Hamas. There is nothing extraordinary in their proposal at Camp David Summit in 2000.

21 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Jews "Judaizing " Jerusalem ?

As Al-Quds /Jerusalem was 100 % Jewish before Muslims took over the land , it could be said that Jews are taking Al-Quds back from the Muslim invaders 

What year / during which period was Jerusalem 100% Jewish before Muslims took over the land?

20 hours ago, Wobblybob said:

Palestinians don't want a two state solution either, the reason the Israelis don't want a 2SS is pretty obvious, the reason the Palestinians don't want a 2SS is because they want Israel and the annihilation of the citizens of Israel. 

 

So reverting to my initial question to you, what should the Israelis do, lay down their arms and let the Palestinians kill them????? 

They could have agreed to Palestinian proposal during Camp David Summit in 2000.

15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Gaza was not occupied for years prior to 10/7

Was it a part of sovereign state?

Why then does Israeli government seem to be so unhappy about recent recent recognition of Palestinian state by few European countries?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-occupied_territories

27 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes, the U.N gave Israel the right to occupy the land in 1948 , legally 

Gaza strip and West Bank as well?

On 5/28/2024 at 10:41 PM, Wobblybob said:

No I don't agree, every death in Gaza is down to Hamas for without their murderous intervention in Israel none of this would be happening. 

In my opinion the core of the issue is the Israeli treatment of Palestinians on the occupied territories. If they either agreed on the two state solution or if all of them had same rights in one state it is much less likely that we would be witnessing events such as Intifadas and Oct 7th.

On 5/28/2024 at 10:39 PM, coolcarer said:

It’s occupied because the hostages and Hamas are there. No other reason. Hamas started a war on Oct 7th. Hamas took hostages back to Gaza on Oct 7th

Are you implying that that territory has not been occupied before Oct 7th?

On 5/29/2024 at 12:56 AM, Danderman123 said:

Do they have the right to hold hostages?

No, they don't have a right to target civilians or taking hostages.

Does the Israel have a right to occupy their territory?

13 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    The Ukraine was invaded by Russia 

Israel was invaded by Palestine .

Russia and Palestine are the invaders .

Ukraine and Israel are fighting back against the invaders .

Israel are just faring better now than Ukraine 

Right and Israel has not been occupying Palestinian territories for 50+ years ...

4 hours ago, riclag said:

I agree wholeheartedly with your statement! This is uncharted territory,nations  appeasing ( giving in) to terror , all to maintain world peace!

Its UNHEARD-OF .

 

Some of the people are really so naive. Israeli Jews used similar tactics when they were fighting for their own country.

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Terrorism: a Tactical Weapon for Strategic Purposes

6 The Jewish underground groups launched their insurgency against the British on 31 October 1945 with a series of coordinated attacks against the railways, oil refineries, and police boats. The anti-British insurgency continued for nearly two years, in two phases. The first, often referred to as the "United Resistance" phase, lasted from October 1945 to August 1946. During this period, the three groups attempted to coordinate their actions against the British, but political and strategic disagreements precluded a wholly united front. The Haganah used violence as a pressure tactic to persuade the British to change their policy on Jewish immigration into Palestine. So, it limited its attacks mostly to targets related to anti-immigration efforts, such as coastal radar stations and police boats. But it also sabotaged the railway as a way of imposing economic pressure on the British. The Irgun and Stern groups, however, were committed to all-out "national liberation" wars. They did not believe that the British would give Palestine to the Jews and thus were determined to force them out. They tried to increase the human and political costs to Britain of remaining in Palestine by attacking British troops and police, military bases and police stations, oil refineries, trains, bridges, and banks. Between them, the three groups carried out 78 attacks in the nine months after October 1945. However, the united resistance dissolved after the Irgun blew up the British administration headquarters in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in July 1946, killing 92 people. Following that disaster, which was a grave embarrassment to the moderate Zionists, the Haganah effectively withdrew from armed operations. Unrestrained by the need for a united front, the Irgun and the Stern Gang rapidly escalated the levels of violence nearly four-fold in this second phase, carrying out 286 attacks over the next twelve months. Casualties exceeded 1,000 over the whole two-year period.6"

https://journals.lib.unb.ca/index.php/jcs/article/view/10538/11136

23 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Probably got a gig ad an expert on CNN. 

 

And not an "American diplomat" 

 

"Hala Rharrit serves as Arabic Language Spokesperson for the State Department and as the Dubai Regional Media Hub’s Deputy Director."

Hala Rharrit - United States Department of State

 

CNN playing fast and loose with the facts again. 

Hala Rharrit, US diplomat who quit over Biden administration’s Gaza policy, speaks out | CNN Politics

 

What makes her "not an American diplomat" ?

Interview with Hala Rharrit - American diplomat who recently resigned over U.S. policy in Gaza.

Here is an article by Israeli journalist (whose sources are IDF operatives) which explains at least some of the reasons for high civilian casualties.

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

17 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Fibre via Wi-Fi, assuming you have 5GHz capability will be 5 to 20 times faster unless you have a solid 5G connection. My network is limited to 300 300 as I only pay 260 a month and my iPad regularly sees 260Mbps ~ 300Mbps so unless you are seeing that on your network the fibre will smoke the OTA connection.

Can you share which provider offers 300 / 300 package for 260thb? Was it a special promotion?

Article about Ireland's county which achieved 99.7% vaccination rate (among adults) yet some of the areas in it show increase of covid cases (nothing mentioned about hospitalizations).

Does anyone have more details about this? 

On 10/9/2021 at 6:43 AM, placeholder said:

Actually not. Its effectiveness is a bit under 50%. Whereas pfizer has been determined to be about 90% effective in preventing hospitalizations and deaths. But your remark is even more clueless than that. Even if their effectiveness were the same (they're not) , the use of aspirin wouldn't be a case of "instead of" but rather an additional check on the covid virus. Another obstacle, in other words. Apart from those 2 points of yours, though, thanks for the insights

Israeli study found that Pfizer vaccine's effectiveness drops to 47% after 6 months.

Link

On 10/2/2021 at 10:48 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

So let's take a look at these numbers.

 

They come from the UK where adult 'full vaccination' is at 80% of the population. 

If the vaccines are having zero impact then the record of people suffering COVID will show no difference between vaccinated and un-vaccinated; for each data set you have posted the ratio vaccinated/unvaccinated will be 80/20.

 

Let's give it a try.

 

Delta cases - vaccinated with 2nd dose =  157,400

Delta cases - unvaccinated = 257,357

Total = 414,757

 

Vaccinated: 80% of 412,757 = 331,806 which is 174,406 more than actual. 

Unvaccinated: 20% of 414,757 = 82,951 which is 174,406 less than actual.

Vaccinations have reduced infections by 174,406.  A Stunning success for vaccination.

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Emergency care visits vaccinated = 6,265 (3.98%)

Emergency care visits unvaccinated = 11,678 (4.53%)

Total 17,943

 

Vaccinated: 80% of 17,943 = 14,354 which is 8,089 more than actual. 

Unvaccinated: 20% of 17,943 = 3,589 which is 8,089 less than actual.

Vaccinations have reduced emergency care visits by 8,089.  A Stunning success for vaccination.

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Vaccinations have reduced infections by 174,406.  A Stunning success for vaccination.

 

overnight/admission vaccinated = 2,361  (1.5%)

overnight/admission unvaccinated = 3,080 (1.2%)

Total 5,441

 

Vaccinated: 80% of 5,441 = 4,353 which is 1,992 more than actual. 

Unvaccinated: 20% of 5,441 = 1088 which is 1,992 less than actual.

Vaccinations have reduced hospital admissions by 1,992.  A Stunning success for vaccination.

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Deaths vaccinated= 1,613 (1%)

Deaths unvaccinated = 722 (0.3%) 

Total 2,335

 

Vaccinated: 80% of 2,335 = 1,868 which is 255 more than actual. 

Unvaccinated: 20% of 2,335 = 467 which is 255 less than actual.

Vaccinations have reduced hospital admissions by 467.  A Stunning success for vaccination.

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I think it a good idea when reading these numbers to reflect on the fact that each individual datapoint represents a person, perhaps a parent, a child a spouse a partner a sibling. 

 

The vaccines have had a demonstrably dramatic positive impact on reducing illness, suffering and deaths, and that's putting aside the impact on reduced demand on health services and the associated costs therein.

 

Thanks for posting data so supportive of the case for vaccination.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for explaining it this way. However those numbers are cumulative from 1st of February when full vaccination was probably much lower than 80%. 

10 hours ago, placeholder said:

One thing isn't noted in these statistics is the average age of each group. Also, those who were not senior citizens but judged to be more vulnerable.The UK's senior citizens and ohters more vulnerable were vaccinated first. So not only are they inherently more vulnerable, but the vaccines' effectiveness gets lower over time. 

Most COVID deaths in England now are in the vaccinated – here’s why that shouldn’t alarm you

"The risk of dying from COVID doubles roughly every seven years older a patient is. The 35-year difference between a 35-year-old and a 70-year-old means the risk of death between the two patients has doubled five times – equivalently it has increased by a factor of 32. An unvaccinated 70-year-old might be 32 times more likely to die of COVID than an unvaccinated 35-year-old. This dramatic variation of the risk profile with age means that even excellent vaccines don’t reduce the risk of death for older people to below the risk for some younger demographics."

https://theconversation.com/most-covid-deaths-in-england-now-are-in-the-vaccinated-heres-why-that-shouldnt-alarm-you-163671

 

Fact Check-England’s COVID-19 death statistics do not suggest vaccines aren’t working

“It is important to understand the whole context to avoid misunderstanding data,” said Dr Shamaila Anwar, science communicator at Team Halo (teamhalo.org/).

Speaking to Reuters, she noted the importance of accounting for the demographics of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals, especially as Britain’s inoculation programme has prioritised those who are older or clinically vulnerable.

Anwar added that data currently shows the number of infections is “much less” in the vaccinated population, which indicates that “vaccination is working”.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check-covid-england/fact-check-englands-covid-19-death-statistics-do-not-suggest-vaccines-arent-working-idUSL2N2OJ1ET

 

 

Agreed, average age of each group is not noted. However there is data for two age groups, below and above 50 years old individuals.

I was replying to following quote

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What is so difficult to understand that the overwhelming majority those with life-threatening symptoms or deaths from Covid are among the unvaccinated?

This statement is simply incorrect (based on numbers from Technical briefing and your fact-check report).