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he wasnt dealing anything and it is possible further action will be taken (by him) but it cant be discussed now due to legal reasons. again im disappointed to see some of your comments and so glad things are as they are and he is not relying on SOME of you miserable **** for help! what IS the point of you even being on such a forum? thanks to the nice peoples help, and nice POSITIVE messages recieved - you are the ones these forums are all about thanks again

Joes125, I said 'if convicted'. I also pointed this out in post #23. Notwithstanding, the circumstances and background detail that have emerged suggest to me that there is more than merely smoke...

And no, I do not resile from my comments about drug dealers. This fellow is accused of dealing hard drugs to tourists. Hard drugs - not just cannabis. IF he is convicted, I would hope that he feels the full force of the law. He denies knowledge of the hard drugs. There is also some suggestion that threats were made against his girlfriend in respect of monies owed, but he does not raise this as a reason for traffiking drugs - he denies doing so. As against this, the entire recent background of this fellow, as told by his fan club, is shabby (suspicious) and he was found in direct possession of the drugs. If he is convicted of the deed as alleged, let him do the time. There'll be no sympathy from me. Note again the word IF.

dear all

having full facts now I can update you - David kevin griffin did not get involved in drugs or the dealing of them - i did get a phone call and he did have some problems BUT a close friend had ALREADY fixed his loan prob - the thing with the police was UNRELATED and someone has a lot to answer for and it sounds like there are lots of snakes there.. So please dont start slating a good bloke - you never know whats around the corner yourself if u live there.. me.. im stayin here in yorkshire cos i know even if anyone accuses me of sheep shagging i wont get treated like you could haha!

WE - in the UK - His ex, his stepdaughter and myself, got worked up and ASSUMED what had happened and filled in a lot of blanks of the story between us because we didnt hear anything - we were worried but he lost all his numbers in all the bullshit!

best thing is.. if you ever see him over there buy him a beer (from me! lol) and ask him about it all yourself its a shame so many people were negative when a good guy really was in trouble.. if you were one of those people i wouldnt try to buy him a beer - RUN! lol

thanks for your help - an good luck living there!!!

maybe im ignorant of it but i didnt think weed was so bad there.. can understand with the other shit they say they caught him with though.. kev had told me he hardly smoked there cos of weather etc so i dont know exactly what happened.. If Nut was in any danger, or he thought she was, I know he would say nothing no matter how many times they hit him.

does anyone know where he will be, which prison in Phucket, and if I can send anything from the UK.. or how to find out when he will go to court..

if can visit him.. best guy in consulate to talk to (they dont return calls).. please ??

Kevin is not in Jail at the moment, he is out on bail and has been for quite some time, I think the police kept his phone as they usually do in these cases. If you give me your name and no then I will pass the message on to tell him to contact you.

thank you - sent you mail. cant believe he is out.. all seems strange.. hope he calls soon.

Not sure I understand the context of your quote, however it would be interesting to know where he scored his drugs from in the first place....(yes, I've read Bangkok 8 too)

If you are inclined to dabble in drugs, they are extremely easy to find here in Thailand; it is a question of demand. If you now would be inclined to make a business out of it as the last step on the ladder, as a street hustler, all you do is buy a bigger amount, get a discount, and mark it up again.

The amounts he was caught with, in a business sense, were absolutely trivial and easy to source.

That he was obviously inexperienced shows that he had his car loaded with equipment (which makes intent to sell absolutely impossible to deny), did seemingly even the packaging right in front of the customer instead of separating himself from any evidence and only get the drugs brought when the money is there (or have an absolutely tiny amount on location; which means he should not have worked alone). The shops selling fake DVDs here in Patong have sussed this system out, one would have assumed a guy doing serious crime would have thought it through that far. Which means we got an amateur here, and by no means a 'major drugdealer'.

Still, the legal ramifications must have been clear to him; but obviously, they seem to be unclear to our overly excited journalists and whoever out the title up on this thread.

That this guy would receive the maximum penalty is highly unlikely, not only because of the amounts, but because police should have an interest to get the next-higher guy in the supply chain (he might only have a real problem if he was actually in competition to persons with special interests in the police force, but nothing in the facts as presented points in this direction).

i need to talk with this guy please RE kevin griffin : briton arrested in Phucket feb 09

maybe im ignorant of it but i didnt think weed was so bad there.. can understand with the other shit they say they caught him with though.. kev had told me he hardly smoked there cos of weather etc so i dont know exactly what happened.. If Nut was in any danger, or he thought she was, I know he would say nothing no matter how many times they hit him.

does anyone know where he will be, which prison in Phucket, and if I can send anything from the UK.. or how to find out when he will go to court..

if can visit him.. best guy in consulate to talk to (they dont return calls).. please ??

i like this comment he made ""It's nonsense", he said".

none of this is nonsense.. people have said setup etc.. can anyone actually supply any FACTS please? A REAL JUDGE WILL "JUDGE" HIM SOON ENOUGH WITHOUT ANYONE ELSE! WHAT IF IT WAS YOU?!

please note: I did not say Kevin did this - I dont know - Im guessing. If he did there is no excuse and he will be punished - I just hope we can make a plea for leniency considering the circumstances.. If anyone knows what REALLY happened then a good man could be in Jail for a long time - please help him.

Also.. some of the subject lines have dubious tags.. "police corruption".. does someone know something we dont?

many thanks for any help or advice

best regards

tim

Due to topic being locked and directed here..

Here is David Kevin Griffin - Background

Kevin went to Thailand for a year in 2005 to work for a company selling / renting properties. During that year he met "Nut" (easy translation) who became his girlfriend. From 2005 to present he never returned to the UK even though he knows he is well loved and sorely missed. Kevin even renewed his passport close to Thailand - he didnt want to leave Nut alone so long. His close friends such as me, his ex, stepdaughter and her friend spoke to him and Nut regularly and until mid 2008 everything seemed fine.. He was happy and Nut seemed like a really nice lady.. then noone heard from him AT ALL..

Note: we all call him Kev - he didnt like "david") so he is known as Kevin Griffin

I got a Phone call from Kev in mid January this year (2009) saying he was in some trouble - he had borrowed money from a "friend" over some months to pay bills (during the "bite" of the recession while work was tight) in the hope that things would get better but they didnt.. now this "friend" and his friends were threatening to hurt Nut to hurt Kevin - they suggested she work for them as a prostitute.. Kev rang me for help but i couldnt immediately..

Within 2 weeks I sold my van, mountain bike, some tools and other stuff in order to go to Thailand and help him.. Tried to call to see what to do next but his contact number had gone Dead! I didnt even know where he was! I found out much later but it was too late - on 4th February 2009 Kevin was arrested selling drugs to tourists! He now faces 5 years to Life imprisonment. Noone knows where Nut is. A friend suggested to put all this down on bebo etc - he did break the law but support and pleas of leniency from a lot of people may help.. and we may find his family and other firends..

Kevin was NOT really a drug dealer . OBVIOUSLY NEW TO IT OR NOT VERY GOOD BECAUSE HE GOT CAUGHT ANYWAY!

In those 2 weeks since the phone call I had I dont know what happened - I can only ASSUME that these "friends" maybe forced Kevin to work for them to sell their drugs or something very similar - I KNOW KEVIN, A 49 YEAR OLD TOP BLOKE - WOULD NOT RISK ANYTHING IN THAILAND WITHOUT A VERY GOOD REASON - HE IS VERY AWARE OF THINGS THERE - HE HAS LIVED THERE FOR 4 YEARS SELLING AND RENTING MANY PROPERTIES TO ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE. HE HATED THE STREET PEDALERS OF DRUGS IN SPAIN.. HE HAS A STEPDAUGHTER.. SO WHAT CHANGED?

I have Known Kev since 1994 when I first worked installing sound equipment at Bennys Nightclub in Radcliffe, Manchester. Along with Della (ex british Karate champ at the time), Dave (Top DJ) and Mel (Daves Girlfriend) they promoted club nights there. For this reason I know about Kev and the clubs Drugs policies - it wasnt tolerated - if seen they were thrown out. Kev would not risk his/theclubs reputation or his liberty. Kev is a grafter - a worker - he always has been.

By 1998 Kev had finished working in the clubs and had a small transport company that contracted for TNT parcels manchester - I was trucking, had an apartment in Belgium and was trucking UK - Europe but we still stayed very close - like brothers - we jus clicked from the start - KEVIN is a lot of fun and together we had a good laugh all the time.

To clarify something about the news report if you read it - Kev did smoke weed - in the UK he took painkillers which ruined his stomach lining (for a back problem) - he found, along with thousands of others, that cannabis relieved it without his stomach bleeding BUT he does NOT deserve prison for that.

Since february there has been little I can do now - the Thai Police paraded him in Public and its on You tube (will link the videos in).

I dont know what to expect from this page but I hope somehow people can support him.. He is in a Hellhole now. I know he broke the law but there is a real story behind this - Kev is not a low life and shouldnt be treated as such - he is a proper gent and I know he would have done ANYTHING to protect his girl.

ANY ADVICE IS APPRICIATED WHERE TO START?

Kevin has a new page devoted to him on BEBO dot COM / freekevingriffin

Noone expects him to be freed - BUT WE PLEAD FOR LENIENCY - KEVIN IS A TRUE GENTLEMAN!

in reply on other post if loan can be verified.. I dont know.. First I knew about his problems was mid January this year.. then NOTHING until his ex called me and told me she had found him on google.. we just felt sick. I was almost ready to come over with some money in beggining of February but then his phone went off.. didnt even know where he was, or where his Girlfriend was. Both just seemed to dissapear (we searched at first but showed nothing over here) until his ex found it

thanks and best regards

tim

I imagine most of us have read books written by ex-cons that were locked up in a Thai jail, there were a few that were set up and framed. it could well be what has happened to this guy. if he did do it then more fool him and hope he has a rough time, but if he was framed then I pity him and hope he gets out early and survives.

Im not sure if he was set up or not - if he was its even more sinister than I imagined. he was apparently caught "red handed" - but I know he was forced into it in someway - His Girlfriend had already had threats.. I was raising money to come and pay some debts just before this happened..

thanks for your good wishes

very best regards

tim

Sorry about your friend and he is lucky to have a good one like you apparently are. Thailand is definitely not the place for anyone who uses any form of drug. It is not true that everyone smokes weed. This may have been so in the 60s but is not the case now. The penalties are totally out of proportion to the pleasure.

All you can do is send him occasional help in prison as he will need it for basic food and all needs. The embassy wont give him any real help and he will be there a very long time.

I realise that my friend and DO NOT condone any kind of drug dealing.. but in real terms he wasnt a hardcore dealer - smoking grass vs painkillers is a worldwide debate.. the real question is.. how far would you go to keep your woman safe? He risked it all and lost.. I just need to know how to plead for Leniency, when his case will go to court.. any GOOD people like you who can advise me properly on anything I can do to help my Bro. if can send from UK.. How to find where he actually is to send anything..

I think the guy on the other comment is right about the TUK TUK analogy but im guessing he wasnt planning it to be a new career.. Id like to find out if he was FORCED into it.. I know he had already had nasty threats to his Girl, put her to work as prositiute etc.. Now he will never see her again either way - its very sad.

thanks in advance for any help

best regards

tim

David Kevin Griffin - Background

Kevin went to Thailand for a year in 2005 to work for a company selling / renting properties. During that year he met "Nut" (easy translation) who became his girlfriend. From 2005 to present he never returned to the UK even though he knows he is well loved and sorely missed. Kevin even renewed his passport close to Thailand - he didnt want to leave Nut alone so long. His close friends such as me, his ex, stepdaughter and her friend spoke to him and Nut regularly and until mid 2008 everything seemed fine.. He was happy and Nut seemed like a really nice lady.. then noone heard from him AT ALL..

Note: we all call him Kev - he didnt like "david") so he is known as Kevin Griffin

I got a Phone call from Kev in mid January this year (2009) saying he was in some trouble - he had borrowed money from a "friend" over some months to pay bills (during the "bite" of the recession while work was tight) in the hope that things would get better but they didnt.. now this "friend" and his friends were threatening to hurt Nut to hurt Kevin - they suggested she work for them as a prostitute.. Kev rang me for help but i couldnt immediatly..

Within 2 weeks I sold my van, mountain bike, some tools and other stuff in order to go to Thailand and help him.. Tried to call to see what to do next but his contact number had gone Dead! I didnt even know where he was! I found out much later but it was too late - on 4th February 2009 Kevin was arrested selling drugs to tourists! He now faces 5 years to Life imprisonment. Noone knows where Nut is. A friend suggested to put all this down on bebo etc - he did break the law but support and pleas of leniency from a lot of people may help.. and we may find his family and other firends..

Kevin was NOT a drug dealer. OBVIOUSLY NEW TO IT OR NOT VERY GOOD BECAUSE HE GOT CAUGHT ANYWAY!

In those 2 weeks since the phone call I had I dont know what happened - I can only ASSUME that these "friends" maybe forced Kevin to work for them to sell their drugs or something very similar - I KNOW KEVIN, A 49 YEAR OLD TOP BLOKE - WOULD NOT RISK ANYTHING IN THAILAND WITHOUT A VERY GOOD REASON - HE IS VERY AWARE OF THINGS THERE - HE HAS LIVED THERE FOR 4 YEARS SELLING AND RENTING MANY PROPERTIES TO ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE. HE HATED THE STREET PEDALERS OF DRUGS IN SPAIN.. HE HAS A STEPDAUGHTER.. SO WHAT CHANGED?

I have Known Kev since 1994 when I first worked installing sound equipment at Bennys Nightclub in Radcliffe, Manchester. Along with Della (ex british Karate champ at the time), Dave (Top DJ) and Mel (Daves Girlfriend) they promoted club nights there. For this reason I know about Kev and the clubs Drugs policies - it wasnt tolerated - if seen they were thrown out. Kev would not risk his/theclubs reputation or his liberty. Kev is a grafter - a worker - he always has been.

By 1998 Kev had finished working in the clubs and had a small transport company that contracted for TNT parcels manchester - I was trucking, had an apartment in Belgium and was trucking UK - Europe but we still stayed very close - like brothers - we jus clicked from the start - KEVIN is a lot of fun and together we had a good laugh all the time.

To clarify something about the news report if you read it - Kev did smoke weed - he told me lots of people smoked it in thailand anyway and it grows wild - in the UK he took painkillers which ruined his stomach lining (for a back problem) - he found, along with thousands of others, that cannabis relieved it without his stomach bleeding BUT he does NOT deserve prison for that.

Since february there has been little I can do now - the Thai Police paraded him in Public and its on You tube (will link the videos in).

I dont know what to expect from this page but I hope somehow people can support him.. He is in a Hellhole now. I know he broke the law but there is a real story behind this - Kev is not a low life and shouldnt be treated as such - he is a proper gent and I know he would have done ANYTHING to protect his girl.

ANY ADVICE IS APPRICIATED WHERE TO START?

Kevin has a new page devoted to him on BEBO dot COM / freekevingriffin

Noone expects him to be freed - BUT WE PLEAD FOR LENIENCY - KEVIN IS A TRUE GENTLEMAN!

Please see the new page freekevingriffin on Bebo dot com for more background information on this subject..

this is not Kevin to those who know and love him... very very sad.. the man is a KNIGHT!

we dont expect him to be freed BUT WE PLEA FOR LENIENCY! ANY ADVICE IS WELCOME TOO! ITS A NIGHTMARE!

Please see the new page freekevingriffin on Bebo dot com for more background information on this subject..

this is not Kevin to those who know and love him... very very sad.. the man is a KNIGHT!

we dont expect him to be freed BUT WE PLEA FOR LENIENCY! ANY ADVICE IS WELCOME TOO! ITS A NIGHTMARE!

HOW CAN WE FIND HIS GF? SOMEONE MUST KNOW MORE.. PLEASE HELP!