Chris84

I read somewhere a good rule of thumb method. Is to take your age. For example 70. Then two thirds of that plus an extra 2. So you would get a girlfriend of 50 or above if you were a 70 year old man. It works well with any age.

I just watched the same film. Public Enemies, in cinema 4. Had the same whirring problem and sound went low in places, but it's only 70 baht monday to thursday. Plus i like the fact that KSGaew is quiet. The swimming pool in Lotus hotel 7th floor is good value 100 baht, and the bowling is fun. Looking forward to GI Joe

In the video, i think the guy was asking for something, but was obviously hammered. The first punch was quite funny, but you could just see that they wouldn't stop at that. It seems more acceptable to kick people in head over here, to finish someone off, maybe to stop a revenge attack. I don't know the thinking behind it, I haven't got the same mentality, and wouldn't do it, especially if I had all my buddies to back me up, as was the case in the video. If this had happened in Europe, the guy that kicked him would probably have been charged with affray and serious bodily harm. My friend did the same thing in my home town, and got 2 years prison. I wounder where this bar is, and if the guy made a recovery?

To agree with getgoin. I did post this to lay in to Jack Van Bar, but also to get some advice, and to see if this is a regular problem in Thailand (i don't think it's a big problem). I was reminded once again that not everybody has the same moral standers as myself, but i will get a grip now, and probably continue to stay in thailand, as i have been for the last two years, on and off. I much prefer to travel a bit, but i have a girlfriend. Has anyone made a post asking 'Would you leave Thailand, and go somewhere new, if you didn't have your current thai girlfriend? In reply to my girlfriend posting. I have a laptop, and she likes to use computers. She wanted to post, she had a bad experience, she can read and write, so up to her, right?

In my experience on drinking in Thailand, I can never recall ever having this problem before, I have had my drink spiked in a Bangkok lady bar two years ago, but that's a different story. I by no mean want to discourage people from drinking in Chiang Mai, because it's a wonderful place. I just want to slag this place Jack Van Bar, because I don't like what it stands for in Thailand. I don't like how the management treated me. How they can look down on my girlfriend, and everbody else because they obviously have a good turnover (next to spicy, open till early hours) and money. Its not a trait I like to see in Thai people.

Thank for the advice. I agree with Jingthing, that you can never fight it unless well known and friendly with the management, and I shouldn't have asked. I have been told that police can drink free there. But it showed up the staff/management, who value money so much that they resort to hitting young women. It is just another episode which leaves a sour taste.

Here is my grievance, I ordered two small Leo in the open-air Van next to Spicy, Chaing Mai. Myself and my Thai girlfriend for about 3 months. It was 4am but I had only been drinking since 2am, and still had my sense's.

The bill came with the drinks for 120 baht. I gave 1,020 B, expecting to recieve my change of 900 baht, once I had returned from the toilet. My girlfriend handed me only 380 baht. I asked about the remainder, but she hadn't noticed that I had given more. I thought about this for a minute, counted my money showing my girlfriend that I was about 500 baht short. I remember vividly handing over 1020, as this is an unusual amount (thinking it would make it easier to change).

I went to the bar and my girlfriend followed me, by her own accord. I told this to what appeared to be managment (an older Thai woman), poliety and calmly, but not expecting a good response.

I found the waitress and she told me I had given her only 500 baht!

This was not a long discussion. As my girlfriend said "mai chai" the Thai man, managment at the bar tried to attack her, hitting her on the back of the head. We were told to Go "falang always make problem like this only for 500 baht".

I didn't want to fight because I knew, from experience, it would be a losing battle and i didn't want my girlfriend to get hurt.

Has any body else heard or experienced this at the Van bar, or anywhere else in Chiang Mai? What was the outcome?