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what a great country it is everything about money here
24hours a day a thai think only about money.
i am no ATM machine ok.i am a human being
they should be happy that foreigners come to visit or stay in thailand and spend money doesnt matter how much thats not up to a thai to tell me how much money i must spent every single day here.or rising up the food prices and the thai pay less.bullshit
thats up to me its my money my life i behave myself good and i have a good attitude but most of the thais dont have it.they must learn.be always polite and friendly as long as they can.yeeaah surely there are some crazy and bad foreigners here around too .no doubt but there are more bad thai people here around so thats make it not even and sometimes dangerous to stay in this country.it is important with who i gonna share my time here and with who i wanna talk and share my private time.this i decide by myself.i wanna meet nice and good people.i did.but somedays you dont no who i gonna meet what kind of people.
i met some crazy thais and foreigners too before.but i just stayed away from these crazy people.
i dont want to meet fuc_ked up crazy yaa baa thais or foreigners.no way.i wanna have a nice time here and thats the point.i gonna stay out of trouble here.thats it.
i like thailand it is nice to stay for a while specially when it is cold and dark in my country.but i hope the thai people and the thai government will change into the good way and think positiv of foreigners.when i go to a thai embassy outside my country and sometimes i have to go for a new visa in some thai embassys they are nice and friendly but most of the officers are unfriendly and rude.like money suckers only care about the money.
treating me like a criminal sometimes i was thinking to myself why they do this.i am no criminal and i bring money in this country yeah.believe me sometimes i thought if this officer visit my country normal i should kick ass but i am polite and a good guy so i wouldnt do the same i wouldnt go down to the same low level like some thai people.
anyway live and let live and enjoy life and peace to the world.
about the visa rules i dont no.it could be better.like in malaysia i can enter the country without a visa and can stay 90 days without a need of a visa but i only have to show a return ticket that i leave the country again.nothing more no bank account book or something like this.
no problem.90 days are plenty enough for FREE.you see thailand it is possible.
mai pben rai or nevermind hahahahahahahahahahahahaaa.
i mind
Borat.. is it you?
Welcome to Thailand caantry
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The problem is not with the Thai system or imimgration but within the people who are complaining. It is YOU who are defining yourself as long time tourists. The truth is that you are not. A tourist willl most likely have the definition of someone staying here from anything from 1 day to 30 days and probably a long time tourist up till 60 days. The double entry tourist visa was never made with the intension that everyone "should" stay 60+30 then crossing border and then 60+30 again. It was made with the intension for people/tourists applying for visas back home and traveling the SEA region for a longer period of time and so they could easy travel in and out of Thailand and then back in without having to go to any consulate or embassy to get a new visa.
So if staying here longer than 6 months you are actually living here. In any country around the world you must qualify to do so and its up to each country to decide what the qualifications should be.
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I can also confirm that the Vientiane Thai immigration are thightening the rules about this. One Canadian citizen I met both days inside the immigration and who applied for a double entry tourist visa was denied.
He was only given a single entry tourist visa.
When the female immigration officer was checking his papers the first day of application she quickly removed his double entry request telling him; you only get a single entry, you travel to much in and out of many countires.
The fact was that this guy had not been once in Thailand for the last 13 months.
When he then started question this female officer about why and why not, she quickly got angry and started pushing all the papers back out through the window saying something like; ok you dont want visa, then take your papers and leave.
This happened in the beginning of January this year
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Tourists don't need 4 Tourist visas.
Good to see them cracking down on people illegally abusing the system.
Should really make it a limit of 2, not 3. Or even a limit of one in neighbouring countries.
I understand you are only posting to provoke people but to answer your idiotic post seriously:
first: you do understand that some people have 10 year passports and might come to thailand lets say 1-2 times a year for 1-3 months at a time needing a tourist visa each time? this could result in 10+ tourist visas in the 10 year passport for a genuine tourist
second: you do understand that there are people like myself who are under 50, have money, do not need to work (especially in thailand), are not married nor have a child with a thai? what visa would you suggest to me? as far as i know the only options for me to stay in thailand with legal visas are the on year non-immigrant visas from hull or back-to-back tourist visas. i guess i could study thai too but i am too lazy
third: sure, there are people who might be working on tourist visas and they should not be allowed to do so but to reject anyone from getting another visa only because they have 3 existing stickers is just plain retarded thai style decision making without thinking
The problem is that you dont accpet that you dont qualify for endless issues of tourist visa crossing the border and back. Just because someone has money does not qualify them for staying here year after year doing border runs. Tourist visas should be for tourists.
In most countries in the world you are not defined as being a tourist if your stay is over 6 months in that country. And ecause you have a stay of one day or one month outside of Thailand dont expect the Thai immigration or any other of the worlds immigration`s to accpet your tourist visa application similar to a first time tourist.
If you officially get a stronger connection to Thailand ie through a marriage, Thai child, studies or investment then you will be given visa choices in the non immigrant category.
In your case though it is little to complain about. As you say it yourself you`ve got the money and can get a one year from Hull. Just book a ticket then and go to Hull once a year and get this one year non immigrant.
If all the worlds citizens could work their way around with tourist visas to Eu countries the way foreigners living in Thailand does and Europe would have look`ed a heck of a lot different than it does today.
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Tony's arguments are strange to me, sometimes he compares two things and then takes one of those things, at a different variable, and compares it to something else. I.E., he compared the reported maximum prices of the CBR to the Ninja and then compared the MSRP of the CBR to the Boxer....my riposte was that if he was going to use the ~120K THB price for the CBR than he should have said that the Boxer is ~50K THB cheaper than the CBR.
And Dave, if the performance of the Boxer 250RS is more akin to that of a CBR 150, why did you lag so far behind mbox on your Ninjette when you guys did the Umphang ride?
Where did that thread about go titled something like "It's not the bike, it's the rider"?
Seems to me the old CBR 150 is the only bike you've ever really been comfortable on...
But the new CBR 250 has received glowing reviews as a very easy to ride bike well suited to beginners so hopefully you'll be more comfortable on that than you are on the Ninjette.
Ride On!
Tony
I have not in any post tried to imply that I'm anything more than a beginner. In fact IIRC, on the last ride that we had planned out on the Tiger forum I ranked myself as such and mbox chided me, incorrectly as I pointed out, for it.
Seeing as how the last bike I rode was in 1994 ('95 I was finally able to drive my Camaro--legally) and that was a '77 Motobecane (50cc of moped power baby!) is it surprising that the less than 12 weeks of non-contiguous experience I had on a bike (and ~3 on that particular bike) resulted in me being left behind someone with much more experience on a bike that is more suited to that type of riding?
So was post made without knowledge of events or was it a malicious attempt at a personal attack?
I ve noticed this with Tony several times in previous posts. He is when comparing stuff just bending it the way it fits the best. Definately dont take in all what this forum member is saying and belive it.
The comments on your driving dave_boo and from the outside, or someone just reading over the forum and it definately looks like a malicious attempt at a personal attack. Not nice. Actually disgusting and only could come from a person.. or a rider that thinks very highly of himself. ....
Nasty is the word I ll call it.
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If you ve seen the effect on humans and their families that have been exposed to this this and any drug dealer in the category supplier or manufacturer should get the death sentence without any fuzz. Send out a strong message.
Run big TV ad campaigns, put up big posters along main roads and in border district cities with are cracking down on this. Check points with sniffer dogs. Do drug testing on the biggest venues like Hollywood and similar ones in Bangkok. Encorage people to snitch and report if the know something and then get a reward. The police should make an informant program. In general the police should do a better job.
Whats happening now is the jails are just filling up with drug dealers. In the long run it is ten times more expensive to build new jails and deal with inmates than to do preventive police and government work.
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Hili`s post:
somewhere in the thread before someone mentioned that the cbr25o will be the replacement for the 2 stroke racing series bikes. not sure but this could be it?
There was a race on the weekend in Thailand featuring the CBR250 (same as the photos as Hili put up in post #889?). Anyone see it? I know mbox watched it on tellie.
I was busy getting my knee down at BIRA so missed the CBR250 Race at Thailand Circuit, but here are some pics-
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ThaiVisa is giving me the old "You are not allowed to use that image extension" error... Oh well, there are some cool pics of the race on some of the Thai forums such as thairidersclub dot comNot sure but other than the track fairings the bikes look stock. Would love to know what kind of lap times they were getting.
Ride On!
Tony
These bikes all belong to AP Honda and it is 25 race bikes. The bikes are used in the FIM Asia Cup of Road Race and all racers are Honda factory team racers. About 15 racers are from Thailand and the rest 10 are factory racers from the other SEA countries.
The bikes are per day standard except from a rearset from Nui, an aftermarket exhaust slip on (from a maker who I can not give the name of but is the same tuner I am using as mentioned earlier on my bike. They are a part of the AP Honda racing team) and a fiberglass upper fairing cover. The headlight is removed.
The fastest bikes ran approx 1:34 at Nakhon Chaisi. Only one race has been done. Next year there will be a cup where modified Ninja 250`s and CBR 250`s will compete together.
One bike is back in my friends factory to make a new rear end mono seat for all the factory bikes of AP Honda.
This CB 250 really sucks we all agree on
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Shown on Aljazeera today in a documentary Myanmar are getting their hands on nuclear technology through the help of North Korea. Their programme to develop nuclear weapons is exposed in this documentary.
A former Myanmar major is interviewed saying "they really want a bomb, that is their main objective." "They want to have the rockets and the nuclear warheads."
Before he defected Myanmar he over several years smuggled out top secrets documents and files of his country.
Not many decades ago Pakistan, India and north Korea where not seen as countries posing a nuclear threat, but that happened. Now with this possible new arms race India and Pakistan will have to take up new measurments to this growing threat. Myanmar wants to be taken more seriously by the west with posing a nuclear threat and also as not having to rely on China that is looking at Myanmar as a spoiled child and who they are tired of giving their support.
So what`sthe posters take on this this matter in terms of Thailand?
How will Thailand respond with the US to this?
Where is the real redline for the Thai government and the US to stop it from happening?
How will Thailand be if Myanmar had nuclear bombs?
How will it effect business investment and tourism.
Would you live in Thailand with the Myanmar military junta having nuclear bombs?
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But working a little around your block with the taxi guys and going through other CCTV tapes and you might find out who are the thieves. If you find out and you could legally make a claim towards them.
I would be very careful about making legal threats and claims against lowlife Thai criminals.
You're not in Kansis anymore Dorothy. Going out on a one man mission to track and hunt the local thiefs and bring them to justice is not going to be done without repurcusions.
Get what you can from the insurance. Leave it at that. For you're own health and safety.
Cheers chaps.
Dominic.
Nice world we would have if everybody stood up with this courage. That is some coward statement.
In cases like this, just go and do what you can. Dont be afraid and dont be a coward. Bangkok criminals is not really famous for slaughtering foreigners for any reason.
Any news in your search of the bike?
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Its so many options out there to use to lock up your helmet.
Most of us want it easy and the hassle of bringing out a big lock chaining up the helmet and we think it isnt worth it for short stops. So a small XENA disk lock with a plastic covered wire or chain will be easy and quick. Keep it in your pocket for short distances and many stops drive and its more likely you will use it.
Normally bikes dont get stolen in parking areas at shopping centres as they tend to be stolen in left areas with little people at night time so use your XENA disk lock for this then or get two.
However, if you have something more valuable on your bike like an expensive helmet or some other things then park as close to the security boot as possible. If in a place that you dont feel good about and also talk to the security guys and ask them to keep an extra eye on it. A popular thing to steal off your bike also are Brembo calipers and levers as they are so easy removed. A caliper can be removed in 20 seconds. Thieves mounting them off are sitting low to the ground so almost impossible to see it happening. Two umbraco bolts and cut off the brake line and their off. Also radial mount calipers that comes standard on some bikes can be attractive to steal. Leaving your bike for long with the GPS there and your asking for it!
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There are a couple of smart ways to use a standard Xena alarm disc lock to secure a full face helmet when away for shorter periods. Buy a little chain thats plastic covered and thin enough so both ends can go into the XENA and so the locking pin can go through the two ends.
1. A shorter chain used only around the jaw and leave the XENA inside of the helmet. If they leave with the helmet and it will scream all the way in their hands.
2. A longer chain and you can secure helmet around the jaw and lock it to something on your bike. Then it will go off before they leave with it.
Easy and simple
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Critics about the CBR250 is spreading like wildfire on the net in all countries. People are not impressed. I can not recall any other model from Honda that have been critizised in this large scale world wide and also before being launched.
Did you actually read the posts in that link?? 98% loved it.....only 2 didnt like the looks and of course they havent seen it in real life. Only pics. I have and it looks far far better than in the pics
No one critisised the specs. although 2 commented on being a single, but again they havent ridden it to compare.
Maybe you should page over to page 2 in that thread
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For sure the 150 could need a slagg too but I'd rather leave it as it is a small bike in all ways. size, cc..
Your english is fine, mine is not half the good as yours, but I do speak 3 languages quite well so i am happy with the way it is
How this bike is priced doesnt change the fact how a CBR should be.
About legal bikes... who said anything about buying illegal bikes. I am for sure not up with that.
If you are buying bikes that are, ok.... but then I think its you who should adrees that problem
PS! The CBR125 have been slagged as from the day it saw daylight in Europe for being the CBR it is. Just go on any small bike forum where young guys are comparing bikes and you'll see what they say.
Could you actually find a link to the claimed dry weight of the CBR250R with or without ABS at all? Would be interesting to see where that came from...
The web is full of sites where various weights posted are conflicting on this bike so it might weigh in on less. I would have guessed that it didnt have a dry weight of 161kg.
Critics about the CBR250 is spreading like wildfire on the net in all countries. People are not impressed. I can not recall any other model from Honda that have been critizised in this large scale world wide and also before being launched.
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And VocalNeal, The full TYGA website can be opened inside of Thailand. You just need to get yourself some better computer skills. Thats all.
Paul has a lot of nice stuff in there.
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The 300 engine kit you can do here but Paul will not sell you his bodykits here in Thailand that he makes for the NSR. If you want the Tyga parts in Thailand and you must order to an adress abroad and send it back or hand carry it back here. The NSR will fly when its fully built. Not many bikes will be faster than this on the track here.
Had to go back to post #170 but mind like a steel trap.....
.......... One of my good Thai friends is running the biggest fiberglass production for big bikes in Thailand, ...........
Then it is hardly surprising that Paul will not sell you a body kit so your friend can copy it. Sadly because of this sort of behavior we in Thailand cannot even open Tyga's website. I realize you never actually said you have tried but you did state your MC21 needed some bodywork.
Some of us have no problem getting stuff.
For amusement: The CEO of GM China was once quoted as saying in China "R&D here means receive and duplicate"
Your going off topic now and if this is the slightest hint about me or my friend wanted to do such a thing and you're barking up the wrong tree.
My friend have been doing fiberglass for ages and he still doesnt have a bodykit for the NSR. Never have he copied anything that is crafted and moulded by another Thai. He is a person of a good caliber, honest, better and nicer than most. University educated with a bachelor in fine arts and also did the best in his class in some subjects. His grades was information I had to haul out of him. He have done custom work for Honda Thailand, Toyota Thailand and Yamaha Thailand. In magazine he was for the custom work he did for Honda with photos of him and project.
If he or me and him together ever wanted to copy any of TYGA's stuff and we could have done it years ago. I am normally back home twice a year but have been back and forth up to eight times. So that would be a simple task. He is rather upset about all the copying of this in Thailand as he see copies of his own kits popping up all the time.
My friend and me is also using one of the same painting shops that Paul uses. So now and then there are TYGA bodykits in that shop also. Even have been using the same carbonfiber factory here that also Devil exhaust manufaturer are using and also Ducati Italy have had some samples running. In there it is Tyga stuff.
About the NSR and the easiest is to modify the RC211V fiberglass kit that is made up to use for the VFR400 (NC30). But many other kits available here is possible to use also but will need quite more work to them to fit so you get the right looks.
As what needs to be done for the ones that cant get TYGA parts here and what I posted is what you need to do. TYGA parts have been seen in Bangkok. I think not long time ago aslo one NSR250 with TYGA bodykit was up for sale.
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. Would I buy an NSR400 in good shape? Absolutely!
If you want a 2stroke and I have a MC21 NSR250 that I am not using anymore but that works perfectly well. It could need some body work and would be a great project. Its parked in Bk at my friends factory. Go and have a look if you want.
Tyga have a bodywork, a screen, pipes and a 300 kit
The 300 engine kit you can do here but Paul will not sell you his bodykits here in Thailand that he makes for the NSR.
If you want the Tyga parts in Thailand and you must order to an adress abroad and send it back or hand carry it back here. The NSR will fly when its fully built. Not many bikes will be faster than this on the track here.
Its a lot of parts available around for this model. One popular mod is to get the upsidedown forks from the RVF400 that is almost a direct swop and always some up for sale in BK. Other things, engine management from HRC, different key card with preset engine setting if you have the latest wiring and ECU. Mono swing arm swop from latest NSR250 the mC28 or just from a Bros or a VFR if a bit more budget.
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Tony you r really making it hard for me
I m trying to control myself to wait until January to get the Versys, to make sure its 2011. Displaying this green one, I am rather sure my will be Pearl White as my Ninja 650R, with Arrow exhaust and Xenon/HID low beam.
Phuket Kawasaki will have 8 Versys coming in next week. You can check the frame number to see if its a 2011.
PS! Whats up with the Highway Police sticker on your wind shield? Isnt that impersonatig being a police officer or that the bike is to use for the police?
Mr Sifu in Pattaya had to answer to this: "The cars were donated by me for the police to use and the police put the stickers on the cars that say “SWAT” and bear the police insignia," he said.Sifu declared, "How can I be impersonating an officer if every time the car is out there are police in it?"
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How come that you are not complaining about the old CBR, just the new CBR250?
If you feel that they are so strongly missusing that name, my guess that you should rather slagg off the CBR150, as that would be even worse than the CBR250...
I like that you find many things interesting with my post... But please read the whole paragraph before you agree or dissagree... Even if my English is not clear all the time...
They COULD make a CBR that would blow us out of our socks, but the price would not be suitable for the market they are looking for...
I think that Honda is abroad looking to sell to first time buyers, not old riders like ourselves, and for them, this bike would be a proper CBR... Here in Thailand (if it gets here) we buy it because it is CHEAP, RELIABLE, DECENT, and probably a few other reasons... We do not buy it because it is the best bike out there... It might just be the best we can afford or just something that we feel comfortable with...
Just like the 250 ninja, I am sure you can find faults with that, just like the 650 ninja, but hey, the prices that they come with, and the factory support they give... Why would you not buy one that you can ride around on ALL the time...
I have here in Thailand bought old bikes many a times (I don't understand the MECHS...) and I hate the fact that the bikes I have had has never been fully legal, sure no problem here in town or if you don't have an accident, but when that happens, legal is the way to go...
For sure the 150 could need a slagg too but I'd rather leave it as it is a small bike in all ways. size, cc..
Your english is fine, mine is not half the good as yours, but I do speak 3 languages quite well so i am happy with the way it is
How this bike is priced doesnt change the fact how a CBR should be.
About legal bikes... who said anything about buying illegal bikes. I am for sure not up with that.
If you are buying bikes that are, ok.... but then I think its you who should adrees that problem
PS! The CBR125 have been slagged as from the day it saw daylight in Europe for being the CBR it is. Just go on any small bike forum where young guys are comparing bikes and you'll see what they say.
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. Would I buy an NSR400 in good shape? Absolutely! Would a re-release of the NSR400 make Honda much money? Probably not.
As far as buying a "real" sport bike, those days are in my past, my last "real" bike was a CBR954, but if I was to buy another it would be either something interesting in a 90 degree VTwin, or maybe a triple. Buying an old Hawk/Bros and doing it up would also be a nice ride.......in fact I wonder if you could drop a 750 firehawk engine into an old Bros/Hawk, now that would be a nice ride.....hrmmmmm need to look into that......
If you want a 2stroke and I have a MC21 NSR250 that I am not using anymore but that works perfectly well. It could need some body work and would be a great project. Its parked in Bk at my friends factory. Go and have a look if you want.
And you gotta love the NSR400, A customer of my friend in Bangkok just made up a NSR400 with new looks. Looks awsome with pipes sticking out from everywhere!
About Bros project and I am not sure what a Firehawk is. What you could do with a bros and what slides right in is the engine from an Africa Twin 750.
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I find it amusing to complain about a bike that you have never ridden, technology has advanced a little in the last few years. I do think that the new CBR will be better than the old CBR. Honda is not known for making bad bikes and they know better than the most of us what it would cost their brand name if they produced something that is as awful as Thunderbird wants us to believe.
It's really a matter of how you define "BETTER".
If PRICE is the most important factor then Honda may have a winner with the CBR250 if it comes in around 100k Baht. What other factors determine which bike is "BETTER"?
QUALITY? No doubt this bike will be of typical Honda quality
LOOKS? I think most of us agree that the new CBR 150 LOOKS a lot better than the old one. The new CBR250? Dunno... IMO it doesn't look BAD, but it doesn't knock my socks off either...
PERFORMANCE? Until this bike is thoroughly tested and goes head to head with the Kawasaki Ninja 250R no one can say definitively how this bike will perform. Have to wait and see...
NAME? Apparently Thundermouth is really bent out of shape because Honda is calling the new 250cc thumper in sport bike fairings a "CBR"... Does ANYONE else care about the NAME of the bike? I certainly don't. You won't see me throwing a tantrum just because Kawasaki throws a Ninja sticker on the EX650
Ride On!
Tony
You are certainly out of your mind if you are trying to compare the looks of a 20 year old bike with a todays bike. If a todays bikes looks would have been released in 1990 and people would have thought it to be a spaceship!
But if you want to run around and thinking IF Honda produced a real CBR250 today and that they would have put the 1990 fairings on, well thats up to you.
And in this post it was about comparing the old CBR vs the new one, so I dont see your point in bringing in the Kwacka.
In terms of better and I think any biker with experiance of a R-bike knows the definition of that. There is no need for old granny to define that.
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After reading this thread I decided to add my useless opinion to the many others here. I do agree that the CBR250 is likely to steal sales from the Kawi 250. After all who in their right mind thinks a 250 is a "real" sport bike anyhow. Having said that while I think the 250 is likely to be successful, I think the 150 will do even better. Thailand is a very price sensitive market and don't forget "whitey" is a small part of the larger market. At the end of the day these companies are out to make money and "niche" bikes are generally not that profitable. Would I buy an NSR400 in good shape? Absolutely! Would a re-release of the NSR400 make Honda much money? Probably not.
Personally I am thinking of buying 3 different bikes when I get back to Thailand, a step through for the missus and for mooban mobility, a CBR150 for Bangkok's traffic mayhem and an ER650N for day trips and site seeing. If I decide that it is a bit too silly to buy all 3 I would consider the CBR250 as a possible compromise between the 150 and the 650. The 250 "ninja" is not appealing at all since it is no closer to a proper ZXR than the baby CBR is to a proper CBR___RR; the upright seating on the CBR and what appears to be better 2 up ergo's would be more important to me. Neither bike has a "proper" suspension, my guess is both come with shit tires (ninja may win here), both will need to be clutched mercilessly to launch so really discussing their sporting merits is kinda mute. Its like dragging a stock Honda city against a stock Toyota Yaris, might be fun, once......but who are you really kidding about performance? Being cheaper and having the linked brake system that I loved on my old VFR800Fi would just be icing on the cake.
As far as buying a "real" sport bike, those days are in my past, my last "real" bike was a CBR954, but if I was to buy another it would be either something interesting in a 90 degree VTwin, or maybe a triple. Buying an old Hawk/Bros and doing it up would also be a nice ride.......in fact I wonder if you could drop a 750 firehawk engine into an old Bros/Hawk, now that would be a nice ride.....hrmmmmm need to look into that......
One other comment I would like to throw out their as a public service message, if you want better braking, #1 get better tires, #2 learn how to use your brakes, #3 look into linked brakes or ABS. In that order!!!! (ok maybe #1 and #2 should be swapped for the clueless).
Ride on brotha
Wow look at that lurker since 2008 and this is my 3rd post ......
I agree with you (as the Thai says) shuure... 1 million percent ! Why didnt you come on here before? Your post is accurate all the way. You know something about bikes I understand. I ve done many projects and I actually started on a Bros 650 and did it up a little. It was meant to get a full over with a hand made custom mono swingarm which one shop in Lad Prao road in Bangkok does and with a 240 wheel but I lost interes in the project and took on with something else.
By the way I have lying around a Bros 650 wheel that is widened to 6 inch. It is a 18 inch wheel so tyres are harder to source. But as times go by, and a 18 incher is only getting more rare.
Strange you mentioned swopping a twin engine. I am today actually paying for a V-twin bike only to get the engine, and that engine is going into a single cylinder bike. Yeah do we love modifying!
its party time.
You can PM me if you want for this project info.
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So, since today is the day that is should be released, anyone getting one?
Or
Is today the day where all of you will feed Thunderboy?
I read about the CBR250 in a newspaper yesterday (The Nation) and they said it would be out for sale next year??? So many rumors, what is a boy supposed to think?
I find it amusing to complain about a bike that you have never ridden, technology has advanced a little in the last few years. I do think that the new CBR will be better than the old CBR. Honda is not known for making bad bikes and they know better than the most of us what it would cost their brand name if they produced something that is as awful as Thunderbird wants us to believe.
This bike is definitly not for all people, "REAL" bikers that can only aknowledge large choppers from the US will probably look down on everyone riding this bike, but then again, they don't like people who rides a sportsbike either.
Different bikes for different people. Honda has long ago given up producing the fastest bike, I do think that they are trying to make usefull bikes instead. The put more emphasis on riding style-how comfortable you can be and reliability.
If we expect to get a bike cheaper than a Ninja 250, sure they have to cut some corners, but I do not think it is THAT bad.
I am also sure that they can make a CBR that would blow the socks of everyone here on this forum but would it sell? I don't think it would make enough money, and at the end of the day, that is what they want, a bike that will sell to the masses, not a bike that 1 in each country will buy... If you have that money, buy a MV Augusta or Ducati... (Wet dreams)...
Many interesting things in your post. For sure the only thing that is better on the new CBR vs old one (considering the old one wasproduced today) is a better price and fuel economy.
And Honda is not known for making bad bike. Rather the very opposite. But now and then any manufacturer can come out with a bad or a missunderstood model as with this one. And its a shame as it happens in Thailand where the big bike scene from manufacturers are very small.
Any biker looking down on another biker just because he drives a 50 cc bike or a scrapdog bike and that person definately is a stupid one.
And yes Honda could easily make a CBR250 that would blow the sock out of everyone. Andthats the whole point ............ and why this bike should never have been released as being a CBR. A true CBR MUST be the top of the line in terms of everything no matter what cc model it is.
When I hear someone say, if you dont like the name CBR just peel off the sticker, that makes me sick as this is not what it is about. CBR is a well established name and preferance in the bike world!!
Porsche just couldnt release a 911 with 100 hp, 6 inch wide wheels, synthetic fiber seat polstering, a bus sized steering wheel, no rpm meter etc ... and then call it a 911.
Does anyone think that would pass in the Porsche world?? There might be someone that could never afford a 911 that would be happy and like that but that wouldnt change the fact about the established 911 model. Its all about this and nothing else.
A novice here is being lead into beliving this is a true CBR, which it is not. If it was released as a CB250 and I would nt critisized it as it then would have told people what it was.
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As this is official from Honda
http://ww1.honda.co....kit/CBR250R.pdf
Do you think that Honda is wrong or lying when they in their official media information are calling it lightweight with its 161 kg dry weight?
They are are also calling it a powerful 250 with its 26hp?
Some examples for the novice biker
The 20 year old 1990 Honda CBR250RR 4 cylinder, 142 kg dry weight
2010 Honda CBR600RR 4 cylinder, 155 kg dry weight
2010 Honda GSXR600, 4 cylinder, 163 kg dry weight
2010 Suzuki GSXR750, 4 cylinder, 163kg dry weight
Okay, i will bite. The kerb/curb weight is 162kgs, also known as wet weight which is surprise, surprise different from dry weight. That makes it 7kgs lighter than the Ninja 250s wet weight of 169 kgs. The dry weight of the Ninja 250 is 155 kgs. From the figures i could find on the 2010 CBR600RR its curb/kerb/wet weight is 186 kgs. The wet weight of the 1990 Honda CBR250RR is 157 kgs. Seems the new low-budget CBR250R holds up well with the others wet weight. Or do you ride your bikes without any fluids in them?
http://www.hondanews...ec-33004c34bae8
And yes it is called advertising spin. The CBR250 even in Honda's eyes is an entry level sports bike, not a road race bike. And this is the R version, maybe they will do a lighter more powerful CBR250RR version just for you and hopefully you will have less to whinge about, but i doubt it.
You got it all wrong novice, The dry weight of all thes bikes are:
The 2011 Honda CBR250R 1 cylinder is 161 kg dry weight
The 20 year old 1990 Honda CBR250RR 4 cylinder, 142 kg dry weight
2010 Honda CBR600RR 4 cylinder, 155 kg dry weight
2010 Honda GSXR600, 4 cylinder, 163 kg dry weight
2010 Suzuki GSXR750, 4 cylinder, 163kg dry weight
Hey Thundermouth,
Can you tell us what the original CBR250RR would cost TODAY in 2010 US dollars or Thai Baht? You know everything so please let us know.
Thanks
Tony
If you gonna keep trashing me when I am posting motorcycle facts Mr Pony and dont recall my name I suggest you look at my profile name at left of screen before qoute a reply.
Your question is irrelevant as its out of production and i dont see your point as my post was about weight difference and a media information given by Honda.
Ride on - Pony tail
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As this is official from Honda
http://ww1.honda.co....kit/CBR250R.pdf
Do you think that Honda is wrong or lying when they in their official media information are calling it lightweight with its 161 kg dry weight?
They are are also calling it a powerful 250 with its 26hp?
Some examples for the novice biker
The 20 year old 1990 Honda CBR250RR 4 cylinder, 142 kg dry weight
2010 Honda CBR600RR 4 cylinder, 155 kg dry weight
2010 Honda GSXR600, 4 cylinder, 163 kg dry weight
2010 Suzuki GSXR750, 4 cylinder, 163kg dry weight
Okay, i will bite. The kerb/curb weight is 162kgs, also known as wet weight which is surprise, surprise different from dry weight. That makes it 7kgs lighter than the Ninja 250s wet weight of 169 kgs. The dry weight of the Ninja 250 is 155 kgs. From the figures i could find on the 2010 CBR600RR its curb/kerb/wet weight is 186 kgs. The wet weight of the 1990 Honda CBR250RR is 157 kgs. Seems the new low-budget CBR250R holds up well with the others wet weight. Or do you ride your bikes without any fluids in them?
http://www.hondanews...ec-33004c34bae8
And yes it is called advertising spin. The CBR250 even in Honda's eyes is an entry level sports bike, not a road race bike. And this is the R version, maybe they will do a lighter more powerful CBR250RR version just for you and hopefully you will have less to whinge about, but i doubt it.
Tell me, you who have critisized me with a lot of BS in this thread and now that seems to have been cleaned up... Do you really need to ask stupid questions like this, or do you not understand why they are operating with a dry weight?
If you dont know and I'll give you the anwer. First of all when talking about weight it must be defined what the weight includes as there is not one directive every manufacturer or bike reviewers follows.
Having said that and dry weight basically is to see the weight of what has been engineered.
About wet weight and the most used definition of that and it doesnt really make sense as bikes have many different ways of use and can hold quite some litres of fuel.
In example, do you need full tank if you want to do a quarter mile?
Do you even need half tank if going for 5 laps on a track?
Anyone with an insight in the bikes world understand that it is not important to operate with wet weight as the difference in weight can be 20 kg gasoline alone.
What makes sense in terms of wet weight is a "ready to use" weight and where the amount of gasoline is specified.
ThaiVisa is giving me the old "You are not allowed to use that image extension" error... Oh well, there are some cool pics of the race on some of the Thai forums such as thairidersclub dot com
I agree with you (as the Thai says) shuure... 1 million percent ! 
Vientiane Double Visa: Three Strikes And You'Re Out!
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Posted · Edited by Thunderbird4ever
This is the problem. You define yourself as being a tourist. So tell us, if you work offshore for 3 months, then stay here every 3 month you have your off period and are only a tourist when you are here.
The we all want to know, if you are only tourist here where do you then live in the world??
As far as I know one year is only 12 months. The truth is that you are living here. Here is where you spend your time when you have your off time. You dont have to go public with it on the forum, just think about what answer you give your best friends when they ask you where you live. The pretty much gives the correct answer of where you live.
One of the definitions to all countries immigrations weather a foreign alien is living in their country is based on months per year. This is not something special for Thailand. There is no doubt that the tourist visa system is abused here. Its easy to get the correct papers to live here. If you cant get all the papers they require then you dont qualify. Is that unfair. No.
Just becauce someone "like" or "love" Thailand is not enough to stay forever.
PS! Offshore workers can easily obtain a one year visa here from consulates or embassies abroad. I have a good friend that does so. Also as offshore worker or a seaman you can require one more passport from your government so one can be used to obtain visa to various countries while the other one stays with you.