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#1 So if you are in the U.S. and dial to Thailand, you must pre pay for international rates. Does anyone know what these rates are?

#2 Also, can you have your U.S. cell phone (Verizon Wireless) fwd calls to your magic jack?

#3 And last, while in Thai, can you have your magic jack fwd calls to your thai sim card mobile phone number?

I am very aware. Middle of the road would be a waitress that does some BG stuff on the side.

Yep, I also ended up meeting girls who worked in Big C, Central Festival, Mike Shopping M*ll or restaurants who, come to find later, did work some BG stuff on the side.

I have one Thai female friend, that I met online through networking , who is a real estate agent in BKK. We have been talking for about two months. Last conversation we had over phone she told me she finally had her first free night in the past couple of weeks and decided to go out with her other girlfriends for a birthday.. (which was posted on F*cebook). Guess where they went? RCA lol

Many highly educated BKK women who don't have much spare time who are in my "pool" also have invited me to go with them to RCA.

Thank you for informative opinions and replies everyone

It seems since I have already engaged in a contract with VT6 in Pattaya, I will explore on my street bike over to BKK and stay with girl friends for a while that can show me around to start a new contract with a similiar type of condo over there. Then I can spend time in both locations until I figure out where feels most like my Thai "home".

thank you to everyone with experienced informative replies, very helpful.

Are there any positive true stories for a younger farang (27) to successfully find a life partner bring back to their country? I spent one month holiday and started hitting brick walls it seemed as far as finding some one like a college student or real estate agent. . . Or is Bangkok a much more positive place for a young farang to look for his match?

Thanks for any experience or advice given . . . .

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sorry - a little more info added to the question:

27 yrs old, own three successfull businesses in my country. Have had severe heart breaks in past and the last ex fionce (3 years ago) that resulted in myself filing a bankruptcy (which have recovered from quite well). Sort of mid life crisis and thai is so cheap to live for me, went there to meet many of contacts I met online, networking (Fbook,M*pace) along with dating sites. I guess I fast forwarded a bit in my question. I leased a condo for a year and plan on training muay thai and mixed martial arts in thai after my surgery is 100% healed in about 4 more months. (Have fought professionally in past). What I meant was if something did end up becoming serious while there, what was the success rate or previous stories for bringing back home happily ever after? . . . So I have more education on the subject to know if I shall choose to stay a fully - armor plated heart - bachelor... or, butterfly.

I've got to agree with mooncake. A 4 week whirlwind romance followed by marriage will be near on impossible.

Who ever said anything about getting married after a 4 week whirwind romance?

It seems you want to jump into a relationship pretty badly.

yes ...seems that way....and why's that?

I would like to know from the OP too

^ahh....but most hi-so have found their farang bf/husbands from their oversea study....back in farangland where they happened to be studying there.

and most of them were colleage sweetheart with similar ages and educational backgrounds. The BONUS is.. they both can commucate very well with each other in the same language which mostly is English....eleminating many guessworks here while fighting!

So I would suggest, the OP go back and look around in your own country....if you say....you're young and successful, you will definitely have more time to spend in cultivating the relastonship back from that end. You might be more successful, given your time constraint during your trip in thailand.

Hahahaha I have just as much trouble in my home country as in Asia as far as refusing to engage in a relationship. I have been involved in bodybuilding and mixed martial arts for the past 9 years. I came to Asia to meet new personalities and seek out some new friends while I train in Thailand. I came to BKK my first holiday, then jumped into Pattaya condo lease second holiday because of the sunny weather and nice beach, not realizing until later that the typical "club scene" or fitness center, shopping malls where someone my age would normally exchange digits, etc. seemed to be participating in an undercover freelancer or bar girl type "circuit". Found on consecutive occasions after hanging out with 30-35 seperate girls during my stay, (none of them being "paid" for the time we spent together), that the majorities agenda eventually was to somehow take advantage of finances. I went through all the "problems" and patented scenarios alot of more experienced farang write about, including buying their undercover thai husband drinks without at first knowing, witnessing many tears which I at first felt a little bad for but later realized these were just completely an award winning act. I know this is just the type of character I seemed to have selected but bringing back to what was behind my original posting. I saw the condo as a potential investment and liked the weather, would like to train for a good consecutive six months of mixed martial arts while managing my businesses back home online. . . At the same time dating women as I would in my own country or as any single male would do at my age group . As far as finding "good" ladies in Pattaya along with all the bad PR a newbie like me sees posted on this forum about "working" girls I didn't see much potential, hence posting the question of whether BKK could potentially be a better environment for someone like me to be in. (There is a Fairtex Muay Thai camp in BKK as well as Pattaya). I just really enjoyed the nice sunny weather and sandy beaches of Pattaya but would prefer not to live smack dab in a 95% red light district environment of ladies ..... at least not every night after night.

Thank you to everyone for your opinions, I am soaking it all in.

Finding and starting a relationship with regular (i.e. non bargirl) women for a tourist will be close to impossible.

Thailand is much the same as the rest of the world, you'll need to build up a relationship first.

IMO you simply cannot do that in a 4 week holiday, two people need much more time to start to know each other before either one can make a decision on going full commitment!

I have to disagree that it will be close to impossible. It is easier now than ever.

My ex-mother-in-law was an actual mail-order bride. Hawaii had many men, but a dearth of women back then, and she was literally plucked out of a catalog and brought to the US. They remained happily married until his death some 45 years later.

Now, with the internet, you can chat and spend time getting to know someone, getting to see if you are basically compatible on a philosophical level. Then you can come to Thailand, in this case, and actually meet the woman to see if you click, if you have chemistry. For many people, 4 weeks is more than enough time to make that sort of determination.

And while many of the women on the dating sites are more financially oriented, whether for a true love of money or for a guaranteed security for her future children, many women are there for other reasons. Many have a perception that western men are more faithful. many have a perception that they will be treated better by a western husband. Some Thai women seem to have an inferiority complex with regards to attracting Thai men (e.g, their skin is too dark, they are too heavy, whatever) and they think that western men might like them better. There are a myriad of reasons why a woman might join a foreign dating site, just as there are a myriad of reasons why a man might join one.

I have never read about the success rates for Thai/Western marriages. But in the US, the Filipina/American marriages have half the divorce rate of the general marriage population. And I would think that most of these marriages were not long-term courtships.

I think it is certainly possible to find a good match in Thailand if a person really wants to pursue it.

(Of course, as a divorced man, perhaps my opinions needs to be taken with a grain of salt.)

Thank You, exactly what I was looking for, true opinions and experiences.

sorry - a little more info added to the question:

27 yrs old, own three successfull businesses in my country. Have had severe heart breaks in past and the last ex fionce (3 years ago) that resulted in myself filing a bankruptcy (which have recovered from quite well). Sort of mid life crisis and thai is so cheap to live for me, went there to meet many of contacts I met online, networking (Fbook,M*pace) along with dating sites. I guess I fast forwarded a bit in my question. I leased a condo for a year and plan on training muay thai and mixed martial arts in thai after my surgery is 100% healed in about 4 more months. (Have fought professionally in past). What I meant was if something did end up becoming serious while there, what was the success rate or previous stories for bringing back home happily ever after? . . . So I have more education on the subject to know if I shall choose to stay a fully - armor plated heart - bachelor... or, butterfly.

Are there any positive true stories for a younger farang (27) to successfully find a life partner bring back to their country? I spent one month holiday and started hitting brick walls it seemed as far as finding some one like a college student or real estate agent. . . Or is Bangkok a much more positive place for a young farang to look for his match?

Thanks for any experience or advice given . . . .

As far as meeting educated Thai girls or Thai women who are gainfully employed you will not meet them in bars. You will meet them as you would meet many young woman in your home country. The internet is a very good way to meet educated and employed Thai women. After making a relationship with them online they will happily meet you when you come to Thailand. As far as "taking then to your home country" that is another question completely. Thai women are generally very attached to their families and living aboard is a big deal to them. Although many dream of that it can also make the marriage difficult at times. Language and culture also plays into this heavily. Like any successful marriage there has to be a bonds and common goals that bind. They will of course be very dependent on you in your home country at the beginning of the marriage. How many Farang/Thai marriages actually succeed is really unknown, but I would say that there is a higher incidence of failure than marrying someone in your own country. Just an opinion I am sure you will hear many more opinions here. GOOD LUCK

Finding and starting a relationship with regular (i.e. non bargirl) women for a tourist will be close to impossible.

Thailand is much the same as the rest of the world, you'll need to build up a relationship first.

IMO you simply cannot do that in a 4 week holiday, two people need much more time to start to know each other before either one can make a decision on going full commitment!

And for the girls, leaving your home country and family, ending up being virtually complete at the mercy of your partner, needs that kind of trust, love and commitment.

You can go the easy way and avail yourself of dating/marriage sites, but I do not think success rate in the long term is high. For tose women it will be more of a business/financial decision, and will have very little to do with real love/relationship.

Although nothing is impossible, I do know of very successful marriages, in couples one would give the least chance of survival. There is always a chance you find a soulmate somewhere.

I'll move this one to the general section as well, not really related to visa's!

Good Opinions. . . Yes I have established many online contacts and met them as well, business/financial decision seems to be the energy I feel also. At the airport on the way back home to my country, I have seen more than once a middle aged farang with an apparent beautiful young partner successfully bringing her home. I look with wonder in the back of mind if everything actually works out for them.

Are there any positive true stories for a younger farang (27) to successfully find a life partner bring back to their country? I spent one month holiday and started hitting brick walls it seemed as far as finding some one like a college student or real estate agent. . . Or is Bangkok a much more positive place for a young farang to look for his match?

Thanks for any experience or advice given . . . .

From your op, don't really know what you are looking for...meat-head roid friendly gym, plush girly-man gym, small neighborhood gym???

I got a Tony's membership good at his 3 main locations for B 6000 for 1 year. That seems like a great deal to me and I have been very happy there over the past 6 months.

I also hear that Fairtex has some very promotional pricing right now.

............ Well does anyone know where IS the meat-head roid friendly gym? without punching bags. just a lot of nice hammer strength type equipment close to central festival?

In relation to post "Best Location/Complex To Buy A Condo In Central Pattaya, Soi 15 The Avenue or behind Carrefour?" . . . I am currently renting a sea view 1br condo at VT6, central pattaya, (next to central festival), on the baht bus route.. Would like to purchase for the pro's listed in related post (investment for possible rental, retirement, sell in future for gain, etc.) About the con's listed in post (worry of empty units, dull market due to current world economy) - can Bangkok be a comparable stronger investment (because more business and farang come to bkk at this time than Pattaya?.. and is there available at this time for reasonable prices as Pattaya? I am in range negotiated at around 2.8 mil baht.... top story. Any help will be much appreciated, thank you.