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I have been quietly perusing a few posts lately, re; the pros and cons of what one should do if you find yourself in a hostile environment.
These range from well meaning ? persons telling all how to, in the blink of an eye take a gun off someone.I think that one may have been in jest, not sure,but was bad advice for Mr Average Citizen.
Previously to that we had the infamous jet ski versas marines confronation, and all the talk of [take the gun off the guy..JJ i think, and more saying if a Thai pull a gun on you, pull one back on him,etc,etc.]
Is this really what one should do? Myself, i think not.My opinion.
Just yesterday a post was closed because obviously some people can not debate, without mudslinging i guess, didn't get to read it first myself, but mods words say a it all.
It was entertaining to read for a bit, but i think some members lost the point.
Someone said that it would be better to ;not go to places you wouldn't go to at home, yes;good advice, but you can simply go around a corner and suddenly be in a bad situation, eg a domestic squabble, or a full on gang confrontation! Then what,? i for one would not be making angry eye contact with the stranger-danger.Smile and exit stage left..fast!Common sence, a no brainer that one.
But there are posters that say<<may as well hand your balls in at immigration, or <<why empower them by puting your tail between your legs?
I guess these people are telling Mr citizen to stand up and make strong, threatening eye to eye contact,and let them know you are not afraid. Is this also really good advise? Personally i think its dangerous and very stupid, even on your own turf, but especially so if visiting somewhere away from home turf advantages.
I am in my 6th decade, still extremely fit and agile.183 tall and 92 ks previously done alot of various martial art styles, for the enjoyment and fitness aspects, have mixed and mingled with all types and races of people,and am very confident at all times. But sometimes you need to bite your tongue, and as a master told me once,,walk away and live to fight again another day!>> have on occasion walked into a bad situation,and immediately employed the <<exit stage left fast, and guess what, never been physically attacked in all my years, and have never ever had to resort to my fighting skills againt anyone outside of a ring. Common sense prevails...you must learn to continually read the situation,be aware of your surroundings at all times. Easy when you know how.
Also told to me, a truism if ever;If you look for trouble, trouble surely will find you.Take care guys[and ladys]
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Tavarich - Location of the "new" Makro is the old Makro!! Same place...just been tarted up a bit! Was in there last night for a look and was quite impressed compared to before. Just 500 metres or so past Central (opposite side) going towards Kathu.
Where is the new Macro location???????????
Yes thanks,emubob, 'new' meant as new i guess, sorry if that ''threw'' you tavarich...the ''newly done'' Macro is a huge improvement on the ''old'' ..much easier to find stuff and all the new range of bakery and deli and cheeses etc and makes it a nicer place to shop all round.
I've had a macro card for awhile now, but sometimes i go without my wife[who has the card] but is not a problem...simply get one at the reception on entry.
I have a big fridge and freezer so can buy in bulk and can save a lot compared to buying at the other outlets.
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If the catching, defining, and discarding the still living bodies, to sink to the bottom and effectively suffocate limbless isnt abhorrent.. I am not sure what qualifies.
You make your own moral choices.. I dont buy goods from places that sell sharkfins. You can choose to do what you like, dine on tigers penis or bear gall bladder.. Up to yoo.
As to me having an opinion.. In case it escaped your attention this is a public forum not your front room.
Wow LOS having a bad day are we?.... Well you nicely sidestepped the bigger issue of HUMAN SUFFERING, I''ll write this slowly for you so you can understand.
I do not buy, consume or condone ANY of the animal cruelty issues you spout..OK so i have no moral choices to make.FACT!!
Yes it is a public forum, but go back to my question to classix...simply i asked him what his two word message was saying, i never ever agreed that animal cruelty was not anything other than abhorrent, did I??? You fired back at me over a question i asked Classix
Yes you are well entitled to your opinion on public forum[you are probably the major contributor to Phuket forum with YOUR opinions]
And most are usually in the ballpark, but this one you have obviously become very confused on my friend...Please read what i have said before you come back swinging huh!
Your opinion is yours, and i respect that, but i do not appreciate someone telling me;
QUOTE livinlos''
Meaning you shouldn't support any business that actively promotes this abhorrent practice.
You may well point this out, but as i said ''who the he-ll do you think you are'' by responding to me with such forcefull conviction in telling me as you have? If i said i didn't care for animal welfare, you may well have the right to defend your cause, but i did not say that!!!
Remember my friend...all i ever did was respond to a post and saying that Macro is now carrying more good farang stock....chillout ..
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Sharkfins too.
And the meaning of your comment is what, please? Informative or criticizing?...
Meaning you shouldn't support any business that actively promotes this abhorrent practice.
Who the he-ll do you think you are? You'r telling me what you think i should do!! I buy whatever i want , whereever i want and if thats supporting them...well be it.
NOTE i definately do not condone the selling of sharkfin, and never have and never will buy it!!!!
All you high grounders spouting forth on TV about the sharks and the gibbons etc are forgetting the more serious issues...like all the human suffering, not only world wide but right here in your own backyard.
All your ''cheap living'' here comes from the sweat of way, way under paid fellow humans my friend is this not more an ABHORRENT practice.. You are way out of line on this reply LOS. Preach your one eyed views to the many posters that deserve it..,i simply asked 'classix' what he meant,and dont remember asking for your opinion on where to shop.
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Went to the ''new'' Macro this week after not going for a month or two...really a huge improvement with in house bakery and deli section..and best of all now fully airconditioned..great place for shopping although some products you have to buy 'multi pack''. But generally much better than Carrefour and Lotus etc..
The range of meats and fish and vegetables far outdoes the above....
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If you have a good idea when you can make the trip, you can change the dates for both legs for 900 baht a leg. If the dates you choose are cheaper you get nothing back and if they are more expensive you pay the extra as well. Of course if you can't make the next dates the same options are available to you nearer those dates....Air asia don't care how often you change the dates.....it's money in their pocket.
If you have travel insurance then maybe you should be careful in case you suddenly can't straighten up after lifting that big thing of water and need to go to the hospital.
Yes..as per yourself and livinginkata..one can change flights and pay the extra..Thanks for info.PS
If you do happen to have problems after lifting that big thing of water, and get a doctors ''note'' A/Asia will keep your ticket open for 90 days so is a good option also.This is apparently ''built in'' as i didn't take out travel insurance.....
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Hello..please advise me if you have a definate idea on my quandary;
I have booked and paid a return flight phuket to gold coast and return for this Thursday 5/11;
Due to unforeseen circumstances i cannot do this trip now.
Have talked to the ladies in the A/Asia shop on beach road,and the best they can tell me is ''no refund'' which i do understand,but they can't tell much more and trying to talk to someone at headquarters is near impossible.
Do you have any previous dealings regards this situation...what is possible, or even worth a try ?
I was thinking mayby a credit to be used later or even a partial refund would be better than not......I have now no immediate plans to go to aus so i guess i kiss 26000baht goodbye!
Thanks in advance...
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just dig that hole !
is a great idea and would be a huge improvement to patong.
GEEKY
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Please explain your theory on how it would be a huge improvement to patong...Did you actually read the OP?
How about some serious discussion on this topic..it will effect all of us who call this HOME,as i do!
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Baanzaan provides far better / fresher seafood and meat products and in general most types of vegetables than the major chain stores do. I always use the wet markets for that type of shopping and will continue to do so.
With carreforre covering my needs for bakery, some salad items, cold cuts, cheeses and general, and baanzaan covering veggies, domestic fruits, fish, meat, etc I personally dont see Tesco helping me. Its like both the farang higher end and the Thai domestic ends are well covered.
I agree Livinlos, i have exactly the same shopping arrangements as you, some vegies in BanZaan are often more expensive than Carrefour and sometimes visa -versa but BanZaan for sure are fresher so i buy mostly from here.
Regarding chaingmai prediction of the demise of BanZaan, i don't think so...it is mainly Thai shoppers and will continue to flourish, because of the fact it is more like the 'old style' markets that were so common on the Kata to Patong strip and many Thais prefer to buy in these places.These fresh produce markets are few and far between these days and not as cheap as ''old style'' because of increased rental costs for a site in a ''modern market''.
One good thing for us ,the customer, is if Tesco Lotus does open, the competition could force a reduction in prices in both C/four and Lotus, but
, then again pricing collusion is rampant amongst all the big players everywhere anyway, so maybe not!
The other thing is it might wake up C/four regarding having more checkouts open at busy times, its not as though staff costs are a big issue,; my wife has a friend working there and receives under 200 baht daily.
The huge profits on imported goods, and the ridiculous prices of their pre-mixed bread products alone would pay for increased staffing at the check out.They make their bread from Thai product and Thai workers wages but sell for near western prices.I guess that because only a few Thais would actually buy these products, they figure that they can sell at these inflated prices and get away with it.
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The Thai's do not have the engineering capability to bore through the mountain. Any such venture would be done by an internetional company so your fears about the Thai's is flawed. It will all boil down to cost. Maybe if people were prepared to pay a toll to go through the tunnel rather than over the mountain it may get done. I have done it a few times and it is not a nice ride.
If you have read about it ..The plan is to BLAST the tunnel, thankyou ..so my fears is not flawed at all on the info i have at hand...So to reiterate SCARY. Thank you
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Sure cheaper to go over. However the road over the hill wont handle nearly as much traffic as tunnel will. Reason being it's too steep going over straight. You need to zig zag the road like the present one and those bends will slow the traffic to a snarl regardless how wide the road is.
Maybe wide over the top roads in both end of the beach with connecting wide main road at the back would do for few years. At least it would improve the present a lot.
Good idea but there is no room anywhere for''the connecting wide main road at the back""
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Hands up for a vote of confidence in the proposed Kathu-Patong tunnel road...not many hands i would say. I for one am not confident of the safety and constuction standards used in LOS in any road works ,let alone a tunnel,Scares me to even think about it.
Look at the mess the authorities create in the simplist of civil works and construction in not only in Phuket but all over Thailand.
A simple basic sealing of the road behind Juncelon is an example...less than two months of use has seen it reduced once again to a goat track.
The other problem i see is that ,no matter which option they accept,once you arrive on patong side, the traffic still has nowhere to go. Even now on the cusp of high season, the traffic flow to/from Patong at the junctions of Pra Barami Rd and Phisit Korani rd[ from Nanai Rd] to go over to Kathu is gridlocked most of the time already. Add to this the huge number off new accomodations opening at breakneck speed, and the associated extra vehicular traffic, a whole new access is definately needed, beit a tunnel or whatever.
Unfortunately with the layout[thats a misnomer if ever] of Patong roads and infastructure there is no way of getting all this extra traffic easily into the existing shambles.
Even if they use flyovers, that only moves the problem to another part of town,and still no way of getting the traffic to flow.
One more huge problem also associated is parking...Try and find a bike park, let alone a car space, even now.
The growth of Patong has to be curtailed,simply because they will not be able to access and service it!
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But on a serious note...do these leeches really get 5000baht for convincing someone just to attend the meeting? without a sale even eventuating? That is near a months salary for a lot of 'average Thais'...
No they dont..
Not for just a pitch attendance, for a live lead it may get viable but for just 'heres a farang' for an hour or two not a chance.
As i thought, so wonder where did the 5000 baht come from?
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Hey..what you do for 'jollies is up to you and i have to tell you, it would take a lot more than 5000 for me to do it, but please ...What was the motive of your thai friend, like what did he get out of this exercise ? You said you did him a favour, but i'm interested in the result of this favour.
you should learn how to read..i did not receive a satang..the thai friend got the money..do you think i care what you think of what I did??..bark up another tree, your wasting my time, I'll let you get in the last word if that makes you happy
You seem to have misunderstood what loveitto is asking.
Apart from the B5,000, why did your friend feel that it was necessary to shaft this guy?
yes..thank you, L C,.. sometimes in print, the question comes out not as you would ask in conversation.Hows this for a wild theory [suits the OP..wild!]
Maybe someone in his oh so intelligent family actually got taken by this Time share caper and lost not only big money but also bigger FACE!!Maybe the mentioned''black sheep'' of this wonderful family was the one...maybe,maybe...lol
But on a serious note...do these leeches really get 5000baht for convincing someone just to attend the meeting? without a sale even eventuating? That is near a months salary for a lot of 'average Thais'...
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Hey..what you do for 'jollies is up to you and i have to tell you, it would take a lot more than 5000 for me to do it, but please ...What was the motive of your thai friend, like what did he get out of this exercise ? You said you did him a favour, but i'm interested in the result of this favour.
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QUOTE (teddy_bare @ 2009-10-01 13:53:56)
QUOTE (Avante @ 2009-09-30 02:13:25) if a thai pull a handgun on you..just pull one on him too..simple.There can be only two ways to take these thread;
[1] i can agree with all other replies and say yes, you watch too many movies ,or
[2]You actually have had a hel_l of a lot of training....the moves you describe are only acheivable with many, many hours training in disarming techniques and hand to hand combat training.
If no2 is correct you deserve a good kick to the groin and to be locked up away from society for advising the Mr Average Citizen[or Mrs] to do as you say.If you really have undergone training for fact,you should know a lot better than to put as you have in print.There are actually people out there in ga-ga land who would take your advice seriously and really beleive it is as easy as you say!!
Such moves would undoubtably fail and result in serious injury and probably death to Mr{Mrs] Citizen!!
The normal advice for anyone who was in these cicumstances is, [after craping their pants] to be totaly non-confrontational,don't look directly at the gunweilder,plead for your life,AND PRAY,like you've never prayed before!!Best advice of course is Don't get yourself into this situation in the first place!
I myself have had disarmament training,and mixed martial arts experience,and i know for fact that even a knife removal is a deadly move,let alone a gun..I was taught, NEVER under any[ civilian] circumstances try to disarm an agressor...unless you have absolutely no option...someone is likely to die,and the chances are 99% it will be you!!!
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I for one sincerely hope H M health improves <snip>
As for the disgusting lowlifes who profit and loss on the wellbeing of other human beings, well they really are not even worth getting angry about, they will get theirs, sooner or later!
They would not understand, as their sole aim in life is money,money, and more money and to h-ll with the rest of us who suffer financially every single day on the whims of these leeches..their types have created this financial downfall, and their speculating on common commodities, eg oil should not be allowed..look at the 'ripple effect'' of their actions...disgusting!
So you have been pleased to hear about banker bonuses going up?
Yeh, you got it..hope they choke on it....We all will pay the price of this 'GREED'
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I for one sincerely hope H M health improves <snip>
As for the disgusting lowlifes who profit and loss on the wellbeing of other human beings, well they really are not even worth getting angry about, they will get theirs, sooner or later!
They would not understand, as their sole aim in life is money,money, and more money and to h-ll with the rest of us who suffer financially every single day on the whims of these leeches..their types have created this financial downfall, and their speculating on common commodities, eg oil should not be allowed..look at the 'ripple effect'' of their actions...disgusting!
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once again every single airline in the world is in financial hardship and struggling so why should air asia be any different/
Not true.
Southwest Airlines in the States and Ryanair in Europe are still making profits.
Is it a coincidence that they too, like Air Asia, are "budget" airlines with similar business practices?
Thai AirAsia registered losses in the second quarter ended June 30 2009 at RM8.2 million...
Ryanair,europes most profitable airline is running into losses for the first time since 1997...
Once relentlessly profitable Southwest Airlines reported its third-consecutive loss..
I wonder why ,when someone posts on forum,and it is followed by another poster telling you that you are wrong,and you go to the trouble to point out that you are in fact not wrong,the said poster does not have the decency to even acknowledge that fact? Maybe would be appropriate and easy.Seems to happen often.
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However your comment.."the planes seem to be in good condition,as far as i can see''.. is totally devoid of any relevance.Have you perused their maintenance schedules? Have you any idea on the complexities of aircraft operations? Bright and shiny is in no way related to the main concerns...don't judge a book by its cover.Thats all, you, as a passenger see...the cover, inside and out..nice and clean.
Of course I have not 'perused their maintenance schedules'. That's why I phrased it 'as far as I can see'. At least Air Asia aircraft look 'bright & shiny' compared with some of the 'tired' aircraft of other budget airlines I have observed at various airports.
I'm just like most air travellers, I want a company that departs on time, the price is right, and has a decent safety record. I'll let a government or international authority worry about the maintenance schedule.
I agree with you..on all points as above and Airasia meets those criteria most of the time but also note they are a 'fledging ''airline, not much time to have a decent safety record yet,as most incidents are related to accumulated hours but as far as i know at this point of time their record is very good.
But if you really think that bright and shiny[ in fact "bright and shiny '"fuselage not only looks good but more than pays for itself in reduced drag and therefor reduced fuel consumption] relates at all to the major issue[safety and proper maintenance] with all airlines, but especially budget and more so, Asian budget carriers and you really believe the government or the authorities actually can take care of these issues you are mistaken big time.
The aviation safety industry has self regulated for a long while.I'm sure you understand the implications of that..or do you? With all the pressure to maximise profits, downtime, ie maintenance and repairs is cut to the barest minimums and this is where mistakes occur and shortcuts are taken.
Hey i'm just pointing out the known facts about aviation industry, and i sincerely hope that Airasia continues to grow and be safe, as i use them a lot..but budget means just that, with all the known implications and as history has shown..regards incidents..its only a matter of time..
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once again every single airline in the world is in financial hardship and struggling so why should air asia be any different/
Not true.
Southwest Airlines in the States and Ryanair in Europe are still making profits.
Is it a coincidence that they too, like Air Asia, are "budget" airlines with similar business practices?
Hi KB..out of the many hundreds of airlines in the world you only come up with two, that in your opinion are making profits...so my point is valid. Also see as follows, maybe you should only comment on things you understand.. Google confirms the following;Ryanair,europes most profitable airline is running into losses for the first time since 1997...
Once relentlessly profitable Southwest Airlines reported its third-consecutive loss..
You are only nitpicking in the overall picture by bringing this up, and if you reflect you will see that my original post is quite correct and factual.
As a retired pilot i have no quarms flying airasia,as their new fleet eliminates many of the dangers of flying on older [in need of more costly maintenance]fleets.
The fact is undesputable..Budget airlines can only make profits by cutting costs..unfortunately the biggest costs after fuel is maintenance...so??
Also asian airlines are well documented unfortunately for ''cutting corners''..i'm not saying that Airasia do so, but it is a business and in hard times all businesses need to reduce costs by whatever means to remain viable...
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I book Air Asia online 5-10 times a year (for some years now) for roundtrips from Phuket, and I dont have the same experience as you have. Guess I m just lucky
I second that.
Never had a problem booking through their web site, good prices, flights have always left on time (in fact usually 10 minutes early), planes seem to be in good condition as fas as I can see, flights usually near full. All in all, I see a Air Asia doing quite well.'
I agree with comments on web site,prices are good if you book ahead,and mostly leave on time,and their fleet is constantly being updated with brand new aircraft.
However your comment.."the planes seem to be in good condition,as far as i can see''.. is totally devoid of any relevance.Have you perused their maintenance schedules? Have you any idea on the complexities of aircraft operations? Bright and shiny is in no way related to the main concerns...don't judge a book by its cover.Thats all, you, as a passenger see...the cover, inside and out..nice and clean.
Even from new there is a sophisticated and dedicated regime from not only the manufacturers, but also from Civil Aviation Depts,on regular upgrades and additions that must be stingently adhered to for both safety and performance issues.
World wide,with even the biggest and best companies, falseifying documentation and failing to comply with regs is a major problem,but budget airlines are far worse at this and Asian ones even more so.Air Asia is better than most at present because of its realitively low hours fleet, but as they age and therefore costs increase to maintain airworthiness, they definately will still look in good condition, but ,as far as you can't look..who knows what is going on.?
You are also entitled to your opinion that you see Air Asia doing quite well...once again every single airline in the world is in financial hardship and struggling so why should air asia be any different/ if the facts be known as per a previous poster....They are in fact not doing so well! Sorry to say.
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Heellppp CIALIS needed
I can only take cialis[less severe reaction for me than sildenafil products].
I visited a recomended thai pharmacy in patong and was offered a choice of;
Very good cialis...1800 baht
Copy cialis...700 baht.
Both boxes and packaging identical in every way, but pharma kept in two separate drawers.
Is there any way at all to identify the real product and is it available in Phuket?
I realise that near everything you buy in Thai is a very good looking copy of original, and i dont mind a good copy for a good price,as long as the active ingredient is near the regular dose.
Even the 1800 baht one could be ok [is cheaper than NZ price for real], but the pharmacist, when asked 'maybe both priced boxes are the same inside?'
Reply no sir...1800 baht box is No1..every falang buy this one!
Any one have a good supplier location, or can advise on detecting differences from packaging [hidden codes maybe]..would be appreciated.
Yes..as per yourself and livinginkata..one can change flights and pay the extra..Thanks for info.
Wrong Place-wrong Time;
in Phuket
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I am talking about advice to MR Average, walking blindly into A dangerous environment,which is very easily done..right, and your advice to him/her is what? Puff your chest out and strong eye them and watch them all backpedal...My advice is correct...depart ASAP.
There aren't all that many Randy Coutures' walking the streets as tourists you know.So i'm talking 90% at least of the tourists probably are not streetwise at all ,and would be unable to even protect themselves in a one on one.
As you know one on one does not exist in this indigenous group, so? If they heed your advise they cop it bigtime.
I dont know where you come up with''even dangerous environments are usually not that dangerous once your visibly alert etc.
What a load of crock..Once again unless you are THE MAN and not just MR Average, you really think that puffing up is going to give you respect and put fear into the gang, thugs, mafia, whatever?
I have a son in law in one of the big Maori gangs in NZ and i have listened to his many tales and facts, heres one for you especially L/Los.
If an outsider happens to walk into an area of theirs, obviously by accident, the first thing these guys do is>>check the body language!
If the outsider sees the dangerous environment and makes the correct decision...ie departure stage left, no problems.
If the outsider puffs up and strong eyes the boys..thats seen as a challenge,and you depart stage left, but in an ambulance..get it?
I suspect your theory only works on Thai guys who are only half your size, i'd love you to try it on the local Maori many of whom make a 120 kg lump look tiny.