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Thanks everyone. From the link I provided, item #3 is form STM2

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3. Form for acknowledging the criteria and conditions required for temporary residence permission within the Kingdom. (STM.2)

So that still leaves the 3 items referred to in #2 outstanding.

I saw elsewhere that I need to take a letter from the wife, so that could be 1 of them, and I think there's another form for accepting the penalties for overstay etc - so that still leaves 1?

Looks like the requirements have been stiffened since I last looked at this.

https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/visa-extension/#1610937437663-90b1feab-b48a

Can anyone shed any light on item #2 please - "Statement (No.3)"?

probably because Thais are used to a grazing schedule, whereas westerners tend to ritualise with times, permitted food types for each meal, portions, my-plate-not-yours etc. thus when the topic of food arises, we start umming-and-ah-ing and a load of superfluous debate ensue - all of which probably seems like a total wind-up to someone who's been doing it differently all their life

thanks everyone - sounds like it's in our favour after all 😄

1 minute ago, FritsSikkink said:

Let you wife asked why they need it.

she's being "greng jai" 😏

(about them, not me lol)

I'm happy to oblige if the need is genuine, but nobody seems willing to convey or pre-empt my instinctive response: "why?"
Obviously wifey just wants to get on with it, and (like many Thais) doesn't share my natural skepticism about surrendering ID without at least a good reason.

 
Any ideas? 😶

interesting to see. So it looks like Cambodia is the main culprit ????

So much hate on this thread. Some harping on about racism, yet quite content to stoke their own version of hatred instead.

Here's a young guy who never asked for anything life has thrust upon him, born into a role that would always keep him in the shadow, yet always find himself under the spotlight of criticism. Mum that did her best to protect his innocence taken from him as a child,  then (most likely) cruelly made aware of his origins - you can imaging the bullying he endured as a youth.

Given the world, but cursed as the target of vitriol with no fulfillment to look forward to - no wonder he's tried to turn his back on it all. You 'd think money can make up for it all, but you'd be shallow.

And one day he'll have to come to terms to how this woman has used him for her own purposes, made him burn bridges and publicly humiliate himself and his family. He's fallen so far from his glory days as Europe's last Warrior Prince, I'm genuinely worried for him as a person.

Now troll me.

I feel sure that VFS has gifted plenty of hear-tearing moments to countless thousands over the years, so let's share them - after all, a problem shared could mean an old man more-haired.

Here's mine for today: I was moments away from grasping the illogical last straw of requesting a refund for an entire 150k Baht Settlement application for my wife because I couldn't find a way to change the appointment date (some evidence needs re-doing).  Clicking on the date did not pop up a date-picker. I could select the date, but not type over it. The "Earliest appointment" radio button couldn't be de-selected either.  And the 'Show more slots" link (not shown) didn't offer anything .

The entire page was locked. In a fit of rage, I clicked randomly around the page.... and hit a button that looks nothing like a DATE SCROLL button...

If you know, you know! ????

On 5/3/2017 at 11:13 AM, Vice said:

Now the waiting game - VFS said it could take 4 months but UKIV say within 60 days. Fingers crossed now

Sorry to raise this thread from the dead, but how long did the visa take to be approved in the end?

On 10/2/2020 at 2:57 PM, jimn said:

You dont say why you feel you need to uproot to the UK?

one of many reasons relating to the future well-being of my child
https://thethaiger.com/news/national/nonthaburi-teacher-allegedly-beat-students-witnesses-may-face-charges-video

Apart from 2 glorious weeks somewhere between June and October, the weather is always <deleted> in England ???? but I've had 10 amazing years here and my kid's prospects trump my comforts. the other issues don't really apply to my situation but I'm well aware of them all.

50 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Where was I talking about a court? 

It's called a parallel, and the entire discussion is about 

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hefty fines being imposed by the EU’s top court 

Are you sure you're on the right thread?

50 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Maybe read and understand what people wrote before replying. 

Quite.

40 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

The EU can take action against Germany if it wants. What’s your point? That our family gets better treated than a third country? 

This attitude sums up the partisan / fanatical character of the debate. People don't even pretend to sound even-handed anymore.

Imagine if the UK Supreme Court demonstrated consistent bias against the interests of your political allegiance, I'm sure we'd be hearing another argument entirely.

The fact is, a court is only as legitimate as the impartiality of its decisions and process. If you're delighted to cheer your corner into public illegitimacy, then you truly have the support of both sides ????

3 minutes ago, dubai thai farang said:

Can you clarify as you say you're in this position because your parents didnt think about it enough. Is it the case that if you'd had your child in the UK, then everything would be ok?

Under UK law, being born overseas to British parents means your children don't inherit citizenship if they are also born overseas. This the "weaker" of 2 designations for British citizenship: 'British by Descent'. So yes, if my child had been born in the UK, the "stronger" 'British Otherwise Than by Descent' would have applied.

I'd never heard of this until after my child was born in Thailand, and must catch many others by surprise too. 

4 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

Your other option is to apply for settlement fro your son when your wife applies for hers, assuming that's what you decide to do, in theory that might be the best route, but there is a caveat that a person who is a British Citizen shouldn't be issued with a visa, I don't think the fact that your son could apply for British Citizenship would be grounds for refusing him a Settlement Visa, but it might.

 

If I were in your position I'd be regularising your sons position first.

Thanks and yes I'm fairly confident with next steps if I go for citizenship first. It certainly seems like the most straight-forward option as you say, but also means my child will be given British by Descent status.

As for the alternative - I'm just not sure how best to play the settlement option

• should I sponsor the application - and would that help the case since I am both a citizen and a parent?
• or does the application have to be within the same as my wife's

All the advice I can find online for parents applying for their child, assumes the parent is also not a citizen.

I'm preparing in case the situation in Thailand doesn't improve in the coming months. In that case I would like to have everything in place to just buy tickets and jet off to the UK.

However.... I was born outside the UK too, which means my 2 y/o kid did not inherit UK citizenship. I can apply for it, and with my parent's BOTBD status I believe that would be successful. However that would then mean that my kid also becomes BBD. Another approach I saw recommended was to bring my kid to the UK as Thai under Indefinite Leave to Remain, and then apply for Naturalisation which would earn BOTBD status allowing my grand-kids to inherit citizenship if they should also be born overseas.

Perhaps I "think too mutt", but I'm only in this pickle because my folks didn't.

I've pored over many UK visa sites (including the UK gov information), but I'm still not clear if I am better off applying for ILTR my kid, or if my wife must do so as part of her application. Obviously my circumstances are fairly niche...

 

Went to the new IMPACT site today for 90 day report. Arrived at the desk at 3:28pm, was out by 3:35.

Staff reasonably polite and very efficient - happy camper here.

Thanks everyone, I randomly came across this slide-show, and yes it seems this issue is very complex.

I'll leave this here for others: 

34 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Have you lived in the UK for a long time?

Sure, I lived there all through my youth, paid taxes, served in the forces, owned property and voted. Never had any idea that my status wasn't the same as my parents. If I'd known I could have "upgraded" my status before my child was born and avoided all the hassle.

17 hours ago, blackcab said:

Cancel the appointment and save yourself the application fee.

Thanks for your advice and it reads much as I feared. I asked in my appointment application email what the situation was, but they didn't offer any detail.

So if I can't apply via V4S, how do I go about it? Do I mail the evidence & application direct to gov.uk? I can't seem to find any leads as to where to pick up the trail.

And yes, I'm determined to get full citizenship for my child ????

As the headline says, my child was born in Thailand. I was also born overseas to British parents, giving me the inherited citizenship status known as "British by Descent". This status does not offer my child automatic British citizenship, thus why I posted this topic.

I've just discovered that I'm not as British as I'd assumed. Being born to British parents I thought I could pass that along, but am learning otherwise.

This is quite a hard topic to research usefully, so hoping for 1st hand experience (or link to a previous topic).

I have the following

• child's birth cert
• wife's birth cert (Thai)
• my birth cert (British by Descent)
• my passport

I've also got an appointment with V4S set up for week after next, but worried I'll just burn the application fee on a rejection? Any tips appreciated from those with specific experience of a parent who cannot automatically pass on UK citizenship.

20 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Correct , I agree with your analysis. Thankfully, it will shortly be cancelled, or, to use the technical terminology, postponed indefinitely! Rejoice, rejoice rejoice, as Mrs T once said.

Voters will not rejoice, quite the opposite. And those who delight in the prospect of democracy being thrown out will be sorely disappointed - there's simply no logical alternative.