kuntakinte

Did the lady concerned sort out her 4 month overstay or did she end up in the I.D.C as you suspected she might.?

in reply to the above...no thankfully, shes not in the IDC...i contacted a very helpful person in thai immigration, who said we can only pay the fine when we know what day we are going to leave...and we have no idea other than "as soon as possible"...until we know we'll continue to hide our passports...

and she is not married to my dad (my dad is married to someone else...) so should have sole custody, however, the only information ive been able to find so far has been concerning thai citizens, and shes chinese...i also read somewhere about something called a Por Kor 14...?

also, we contacted the chinese embassy, and they said we have to get a thai passport as the baby was born in thailand, then change nationality in china.

thanks for the help so far everyone

dear everyone,

my dads ex-girlfriend, (a chinese citizen) recently gave birth to my half sister. she wants to take the baby to china with her...now my dad refuses, and wants to keep my sister in bangkok. i should point out that my dads ex is a far, far more responsible person than my dad, and has a large family in china who can more than adequately provide for the baby...in contrast, my dad is near penniless, working so would not have any time for the baby, has an alcohol problem and a history of domestic violence. as his son, i can safely say he is an absolutely terrible father.

it goes without saying that im fully behind my sister's mother...all we want to do is make a thai passport and leave thailand as soon as possible...is there any way to make a passport without the fathers consent/involvement? so far everyone i have asked has said that we need the house registration, mothers passport, fathers id card, birth certificate and signatures of those involved...surely there must be another way?

should we take him to court? can anyone see any other solutions? so far he thinks we are helpless, and we want to keep him thinking that, as he may well respond violently if he thinks we are about to escape...

I am incredible appreciative of any suggestions at all, I dont know the first thing about legal proceedings or thai immigration law, and all i want to do is help my friend, and help my sister have a much better life than the one offered by my abusive dad.

thanks everyone

first..thanks to those who have already replied (I only wrote that a few hours ago!)

i forgot to mention...Im actually 19 - and as far as i know, the legal age of maturity in thailand is 20 - making me legally a child. are the rules the same for minors? if i get sent to the IDC, do they have a child section? are they as strict?

thanks again

NB its only 20 if still unmarried

yeah, i am unmarried (im stupid enough to overstay on my visa, but not stupid enough to get married at 19!!) - another consideration is as im half thai - is im eligible for a thai passport - if i can get one, presumably i can just leave on that?

first..thanks to those who have already replied (I only wrote that a few hours ago!)

i forgot to mention...Im actually 19 - and as far as i know, the legal age of maturity in thailand is 20 - making me legally a child. are the rules the same for minors? if i get sent to the IDC, do they have a child section? are they as strict?

thanks again

Dear everyone/anyone, but particularly badbanker as he seems to know what he's talking about...

I have overstayed on my visa by almost 2 months now. I intend to leave Thailand through a land border into Laos, I could (just about) pay the 20,000 baht fee - what are my chances of ending up in the IDC? secondly, if i did, and got deported, could I choose to fly to china rather than britain (im a UK citizen) - as thats where id planned to go next - rather than just getting sent back home? are they as strict at land borders as they are at airports?

also, and this is much more of a concern really...the ex-girlfriend of my dad (a chinese citizen), who in the last month gave birth to my half-sister, has also overstayed on her visa, by over 4 months. she intends to fly back to china in a months time - presumably she is likely to be sent to the IDC as well (she does not know this yet). Her mother (also chinese) is also in thailand at the moment (and has a valid visa) so could in theory take my baby sister to china on her own, but would, understandably, hate to leave her only daughter rotting in the IDC. is there any way of preventing her from being sent there? i wouldnt want to be sent there myself, and im hoping i wont be, but im certain id be able to deal with incarcaration a lot better than she would, especially as she has had to put up with a lot already...what are conditions like for women there?

as im sure you can understand, i really need some advice here, for myself, but more importantly for my ex-step-mother - as im very fond of her and would hate to see anything horrible happen to her

as a side note, i would just say that we were both given assurances from my dad, who insisted that overstaying on our visas is no problem at all as he has a friend in immigration...do you think "a friend in immigration" could realistically get us out of this mess? im sceptical to say the least, especially after reading this thread.

oh bugger.

yours worryingly,

kuntakinte