kandahar

Dude, you need to go, or have someone who can go, into the attic when the roof is leaking and see where it is coming in. If you're going to wait for them to fix it, fine but you need to know what is leaking so if they come, tear the place apart and fix the watermarks on the ceiling, you won't have to call them back when you find that they patched what they thought was the leak.

dude if you have foil under the roof which our house has how can you tell where the leakes are?yesterday we had a storm in the aft.and the wind was blowing the rain towards the tiles so it seems to me when the rain and the wind is strong enough water is seeping under the tiles,dont have a problem if the rain is torrential,the water is then running down the foil on to the steel supports then onto the bedroom ceiling.if you look at roofs that has concrete tiles you will see plenty of gaps where the overlapping is bad.thanks for any suggestions.

Dude, that sucks. I don't have too many suggestions if the underside of your roof is covered with foil / insulation. That is a big job for someone to peel it off and start trying to seal the whole thing. I hope you get some satisfaction from the builder.

I recently put a roof on a building here. I left some small spaces at the peak cap for hot air to exit from and worried that rain would blow in during a bad storm. It has a pretty good pitch so it would take a really bad storm to push the water uphill and into the peak. I held off on installing the soffits because that would be the access into the attic if I had to add additional material to seal those outlets. After several months and several really bad wind / rainstorms, I determined that the pitch was sufficient to keep the water at bay and we installed the soffits and sealed the attic. Two days later we had another storm and bad leaks at the peak. Off with a soffit section and into the attic to add the water barrier material to the thing. Sucks to be me, sometimes.

I wish you good luck with your problem.

This is what a burger should look like

Fantastic sauces as well

I have the secret to these burger and wild horses couldn't extract my secret.

Is the airline ticket from CR included in the price of the burgers?

OK so I caught caught in a torrential downpour on the way to CR just now and am stopped at the Teak Cafe to get out of the rain and have a coffee and burger.

A big thank you to David for putting me onto this place as it is the best burger I've had in Thailand.

Taste was great, not too salty so you could taste all the individual ingredients.

Meat patty was a good size (about 1/4 pounder size at maccas, or slightly bigger) and juicy and solid mince (ie. not too much filler).

Salad on the burger was nice.

Only thing I would change is that the cheese was something like a Kraft single. A tastier real cheese would have been better, but it still tasted great and wouldn't stop me eating one again (which I definitely will).

Also they put mayo on the burger which I didn't mind, but might try it without next time.

Plus it has decent speed wifi. So I will definitely be coming back to eat and use the wifi instead of going all the way into CR to McDonalds for a burger fix and wifi.

Oh yeah the black coffee was really nice too.

Rich

Thanks Rich. When we get up that way, we will stop in and give them a try.

Dude, you need to go, or have someone who can go, into the attic when the roof is leaking and see where it is coming in. If you're going to wait for them to fix it, fine but you need to know what is leaking so if they come, tear the place apart and fix the watermarks on the ceiling, you won't have to call them back when you find that they patched what they thought was the leak.

And no, I don't need anyone weighing in telling me about the Japanese yen again.

Kandahar never doubted that it existed. Kandahar doubted, based on your VARIOUS sets of directions, conflicting descriptions and your corrections of what you had written previously, that anyone could find the place in short order, which indeed was the case. Kandahar did liken your chase to "Where's Waldo". But of course, just as in your lost burger joint case, Waldo is always found in the end. So, I'll stick with the Waldo comment.

You chastised Kandahar for giving directions to the place when he did not give directions although KimoMax did and you said that wasn't the place. You later typed this- "And yes I would drive there to get one." Maybe you would drive there to get one but you wouldn't drive there to get exact directions to the place and an exact description of the place to keep from making yourself look like an awkward <deleted> that has led the thread into a train wreck. So, if you've got frustrations about this thread, have them with your own incompetence, not with me. If you want to have frustrations with me, I have plenty of other stuff written on this forum that would qualify for it. Go back to those threads and let us have a discussion. And bring your "hamburgler", beer drinking friend that has obviously been using you to do his dirty work. I'm not afraid of him, either. Soon enough, you'll find out you're a big boy and you really don't care to be his lacky. All the previous ones did. But you seem to be taking a bit longer to catch on.

Interesting thread. I'd seriously considered getting a couple of baby geese as 'watchdogs' - my dogs are too friendly and sleep even more soundly than me during the night....

Having read this thread I've realised its not a good idea!

I got rid of my last 2 dogs as they were killing the chickens and ducks and I also had seriously considered getting geese in to replace them.

I am 100% in agreement with you on this.

I hate the idea of a long-haired dog in a hot climate like this but there are some here already. Consider a Great Pyrenees dog. They are a great animal for a small farm. As the dog grows from puppy to mature, it will assume responsibility for you birds. Get a female if you get one at all. A male will smell a female in heat in the neighborhood and forget his job if he can get out to go find her.

The Great Pyrenees (G.P.) will work all night and loaf a lot during the day. You won't have to worry about neighbor's dogs getting your birds once the dog reaches maturity. Most likely, you won't have to worry about neighbors getting your birds, either. The breed pretty much comes to identify what is yours and assumes responsibility for it. The dog WILL bark at night but it is only an occasional warning to all varmits that are considering coming on the place under cover of darkness. It will be a periodic, deep set of three 'Woof! Woof! Woof!" only, not a constant, pain in the butt, racket. You will grow accustomed to it very quickly and will come to depend on hearing it before you fall asleep. Once you hear her do it, you are assured that she is on the job. If there is trouble or visitors, she will make a much different bark and you will recognize it and wake.

As a pup, the dog may kill a bird while playing with it. Discipline the dog once and that will probably be the end of it. I have never seen one kill a bird intentionally but I have seen them as pups kill a young one by playing too rough with them if I didn't already have a mature G.P on hand to monitor them. I have never seen one kill more than one young bird. The breed HATES to let you down, so if you ever discover a nest that has been ruined by something, call her over to it and point it out. You will be surprised at her reaction. Most likely, she will start scooping dirt, dead grass and any other debris she can find and cover it up completely and then pat it down with her paws while you stand there. I am not sure why they do it but every one I have ever had does that with a ruined nest and they stay ever more vigilant in that area for a while, day and night, hoping to catch the snake or rat or whatever it was.

The birds will grow to trust the dog and will move closer to the dog if they perceive a threat. They will often bed down right up against the dog for their afternoon nap. They know it is the safest place to be when sleeping.

I had 15 acres and hundreds of birds of many kinds and didn't lose birds much. I really had too much area for the dogs to monitor and thick woods covered the majority of the place. Still, they always did an excellent job. Once a dog has matured, you can bring any other pain in the butt dog (not a G.P.) onto the place and she will not let the new dogs hurt the birds. That is a beautiful thing to see also, when she disciplines them because they were getting too close to the birds. That dog will teach other dogs with a lot less effort than you or I could. If your place is big enough, get more than one dog. They work very well together. In fact, it is a shame to have only one when you realize how well they do work together, going in opposite directions to patrol in circles around your place.

They are not a needy dog and will not come when you just call them to be calling them. You have to command them to come when you really want them. If you don't interact with the dog during the day, she will probably come to you once a day and verify your friendship with her. After a bit of petting and a chat, she moves back into "independent" mode and won't bother you again until tomorrow. Mine all needed that once-a-day assurance. If I "called" them to play, they ignored me unless they really felt like playing. I figured out quickly that they knew the difference in my call as to whether I was only "wanting" them to come or if I "needed" them to come. They will come every time, right away, when they think they are needed. If they think you only "want" them and they are needing the rest, they will stay resting.

I had a young daughter on the place and they kept an eye on her and the grandkids when they came. It didn't matter where the grandkids went in the woods, I could always spot a big white dog within several yards of them, the dogs pretending they were not interested in the kids in the least. Let those kids move 20 or 30 yards and the dogs repositioned themselves, every time. Any time my daughter went out for a walk, she had some serious company, no matter how far she went.

People fear the dogs because they are so big but I never had one go after a person or even act like they wanted to. They will watch strangers very closely when one comes to the house and they will allow you to determine if he is friend or foe. If you accept the person, so will they. If you don't have a good exchange with him and he comes back later, they will treat him like he doesn't need to be there. He probably won't be able to get out of his car unless you escort him out. I did read recently of a pair of G.P. that pulled a lady off of a bike in Colorado and killed her when she and her husband tried to ride through a herd of sheep that the dogs were left in charge of. This was miles and miles away from anything, in the middle of nowhere and there was no owner, house or farm nearby. The dogs had been left there in the wilderness on their own to watch over sheep grazing on government prairie in the foothills of the Rocky Mountains.

A rope and pulley would work for operating them from ground level but it wouldn't work when you aren't home.

I just went through that last year. Come to Phayao and see what I did. I had a real Thai carpenter (with a tablesaw, even) make me some gable louver vents, that actually pass air, not those tiny little cute things they sell at the home stores. I went so far as to make a mock up so he fully understood and he made them accordingly. However, you have to be careful when those are made and make sure that the angle of the slat is adequate to insure no wind blown rain coming in...we presently have that problem upon the rare occasion. I will be having to go up inside the attic and make adjustments to keep the wind blown water out. I had him use wood about 15cm wide for the slats so the opening would be large. I now have a perfect design for those by the way, since I have had time to rethink them. I also used that vented soffitt around the entire perimeter of the overhang. My roof design is such that with 4 gables, the attic space interconnects, I have the east and west gable louver vents almost 2 m wide at the bottom and it goes all the way up the rake of the roof for optimal heat dumping as Kandahar pointed out, heat does indeed rise...straight up usually. I probably get too much ventilation in my attic area, but that is okay with me until we get one of those blows and we have already had that twice this year. Thank goodness for concrete rendered walls and tiled floors....mop and go. I will enclose some pics so you can get the general idea of what I did. Feel free to ask about anything regarding passive, self-cooling house construction. Good luck....ett

Nice job! Lovely and well thought through. Now, if a guy could just fix an external vane to them so that when the wind came up from that direction, the vane would press a leveraged arm that closes them, overcoming a weak spring that holds them open.

She spends a lot of time trying to keep me from doing some things. I usually don't listen to the fuss but I pay particular attention to the things she says she will do to me if I don't listen to her because it is usually just as funny as can be.

She told me today that she was going to be very angry at me if I fall out of that tree. She said "I will hit you! I will hit you with a stick before you hit the ground!"

I didn't fall but I was bleeding in three places when I came down and in her mind, that was just as bad.

I'm sure they put insulation with a reflective surface under the Tiles these days. thats going to effectively seal the roof holes that KD mentioned , then your just left with the Louvre vent and the mesh that Transam mentioned.

Don't know if you can make use of one of those chimney stack type ventilators I've seen on factory roofs to get rid of some of the rising heat. can't recall seeing it on houses here.

You going to have a Nice Wood Fire with a Chimney for the Winter Scorpio1945 ?

A sprinkler system would be a cheap and relatively easy fix for a hot roof on the hottest days. but not if you don't have your own free water supply

Actually, the roof that uncle has just put on his new house next door is a new style roof tile. It does not have anything underneath to act as insulation or as a reflector. However, they are the new flat style, which means they also have no opening between tile layers. That is good because in a driving rain with high winds, the rain water doesn't get pushed uphill under the tiles and into the attic, as happens with the older styles.

We have the concrete roof tiles. When I get in the attic, I can see out everywhere, under the tiles, when I look down the slope on the underside of the tiles. In theory, that is a lot of area for ventilation if you calculate it that way. However, all of the openings into the underside of the tiles are facing up the slope (so rainwater is held out, of course). If you know anything about convection, you know that the heat will just travel upwards long the roof slope until it reaches the peak, by-passing all of those openings. The heat will NOT decide to make a u-turn and go downwards along the tile and out into the open. The only way to make the tiles work as decent ventilation would be to install them backwards and then all the rain would run under the tiles into your house but the hot air would have a better chance of getting out as it travels up the slope of the underside of the roof. I am sure that someone has designed the tiles with the openings to give the house ventilation but it is a self defeating design. Our attic gets hot enough to kill a person in a short time and a LOT of that heat is radiated through the ceilings into the house.

Add proper ventilators and add enough opening for decent air intake to replace the air that is leaving. The roof tiles do add a lot of passive inlet capability but the air first goes through space between the two tiles (between the two layers) that the sun is shining on and is heated up as it passes through. You end up pulling hotter air into your house attic; you're bringing in hot air and venting hotter air. You will need to pull in fresh, cool air from somewhere other than over the roof tiles, ideally, from the shady side of the house or even from the crawl space (via a duct) under the house. Do it right the first time and the job will pay for itself in energy savings in the future.

If I am not making myself understood about the spaces between the tiles and how convection makes them useless, stop by. I can lay out two tiles on a slope and demonstrate with a cigarette lighter. It will be very obvious when the heat from the lighter flame travels up the first tile, passes by the opening between the first and second without turning and going downhill and burns your hand when it reaches the top of the second tile.

Now, if you're going to install a forced air system to ventilate the house attic, then the ceiling tile spaces will accommodate a lot of that hot air AND the tiles will be cooler because the air is being forced out that way, carrying away a good deal of the tile heat with it. But passive doesn't cost anything to operate and that is the way to go, especially with the cost of energy constantly rising.

And don't think you're all alone when it is time to move. I can help. That would be a fun day, getting you out of a bad place and into a nicer one. I have a small (I mean small) truck and I can probably rustle up a friend or two who would have something bigger to carry stuff in. Just let me know a few days ahead of time. And let me know if I need to bring a cage for your housekeeping helper. But leave the toads. The new place will come with its own toads but hopefully, they will stay outside.

I loved the humidifier story. Reminded me of my mother-in-law, years ago, getting a tough steak at a steak house. She called the server over and told him that she couldn't eat the steak because it was too tough. She demonstrated for him with the steak knife, showing him she couldn't cut through it. He told her wait just a minute and he would take care of it. He brought her a different knife. But your humidifier story is even funnier than that one.

Try a couple of sheep.

Never seen sheep in Thailand at least not where I live.

Rule 1 for Thai wildlife....if it is de.licious it has been eaten allready.

I think goats survive here better than sheep and coud be suitible too.

Goats are great in some respects but they will mow off your shrubs and flowers. They will also strip the trees as high as they can reach when standing up on their hind legs. They aren't picky eaters.

Try a couple of sheep.

Never seen sheep in Thailand at least not where I live.

There are some up here near Chiang Rai. I have a friend that may have a couple for sale.

Try a couple of sheep.

OP, if you're looking for a pet, get ONE goose. I have raised a perfectly good pet from a gosling and he was as good a pet as my dogs. When you walk outside, he is there to accompany you. When you get under the truck to work on it, he is right in there "helping"you. When you go for a walk down the road, he is right beside you and will run to keep up so he doesn't get behind. As a single bird pet, they can really be a nice, fun, funny and interesting companion. They will come when called and if the kids interact with them as the birds are being raised, then the bird is a pet with the kids as well.

If you get a pair, then they display all of the defensive and territorial behavior that comes with the breed. They don't rely on you as their only friend or social interaction and they will pick and choose who they like. I ended up with 75 or so eventually and they never gave me any trouble, nor did they give trouble to my daughter. We didn't seem to have any mean ones but I have seen plenty of mean ones at other farms. The one who started out as a pet, stayed a pet, even several years later when the flock had grown to 75 or so. He would break away from the rest of the flock and come spend time with the family, often, and would still go for walks with me if he saw me heading into the woods and of course, would be there helping me if I was doing anything on the ground. The crap and the noise will get to you, so the less geese, the better. Make sure your yard is fenced of from the rest of your land if you have nice plants or areas where you like to sit outside.

I believe if you get several geese at the same time, you are not going to have pets. You're just going to have geese and the normal geese behavior.

You can pen them at night to keep the varmits away but you will have to herd them into the pen every night for some time before they start going in by themselves. If you are persistent, they will eventually head towards the pen as soon as they see you coming in the evening and later, they will go to the pen themselves as it gets dark and wait for you to open the gate to let them in. Penning is a good idea if you find yourself needing to catch them later on in the operation. It is a pain in the butt to try to catch geese when they don't want to be caught, especially when they have open water to go to. Once they are used to penning, you can always go out at night and easily catch the ones you want and pen them separately until the morning when the buyer arrives.

If you have close neighbors, geese are a bad idea. The neighbors have no inclination to listen to them, nor should they have to.

Geese are great for keeping the bugs down, ducks are better and guineas are the best but you have to keep clipping the wings on the guineas. Guinease are a really BAD idea if you have neighbors that won't appreciate the noise.

A turkey will make a great pet also, if you get one when it is little and raise it as a pet. Get a male; they make better companions than a female and you will get to wrestle with him sometimes, which he enjoys and will instigate if you don't do it often enough. Don't get a male for a pet if you have small kids because he will instigate that with them as well. The turkey will keep you company while you work under the truck but he doesn't actually try to help or mess around with your tools and nuts and bolts like a goose will. And if you're going for a walk for a kilometer or so, he will go along but you have to stop and wait for him sometimes. Turkeys walk in crescents, constantly tacking left and right, instead of walking straight, so it takes him longer to cover the same distance. When you get to that neighbor's house and sit on the porch to visit, the turkey will get on your lap, sit down and be quiet, unless the neighbor's dog shows up and then there is going to be a fight if the dog gets too close to you. Turkeys are a LOT more quiet than the geese. They don't say much unless you talk turkey to them and then, you're going to be in an argument that you cannot win. They ALWAYS get the last gobble in and you will tire before he does.

Forgot the flying away bit not on your life they stay where they get looked after. There not stupid. On top of that they need a long take off run and 1 rai walled just aint enough.

Can they actually get airborne from land anyway? Thought they needed a long run on water like swans.

Wild geese can fly from land easily. They often converge on farmers grain fields to feed. Once they see you coming with your shotgun, looking for a nice goose dinner, they can get airborne instantly but it takes them some time and distance to get altitude.

All of the domestic geese I have ever had can't really fly away, they can only fly a very short distance, but they can fly from wherever they are standing on land, with just a few running steps to get started.

Congratulations on finding him open.

Maybe he should post his hours here, it always seems to closed when I call by.

He probably sees you coming.

jubby does me the same way. The only time I can catch him at home is when I climb over the back fence and just "appear" in his sitting area. Otherwise, I find the gate locked, the lights off and not a sound. But jubby's little dog always gives them away because he sits there by the front door, grinning, wagging his tail and looking from me to inside the house, trying to figure out the game. I can always tell when jubby shushes him because he wags his little tail faster.

Edit: The dog's little tail, not jubby's.

We will be bringing hash-brown potatoes and some milk gravy to go with them

I'm sorry, Soi Sauce, but you won't be allowed to see them. They are classified.

There will be some folks having a company "sports" day at the park tomorrow but there will plenty of room for all. They will be using different sports courts. For the petanque fans with the potluck group, there will probably be some Thai players there to enjoy the sport with.

I believe we have several potluck first-timers lined up for tomorrow, also.

I can remember watching the trains come through town and the guy in the mail car throwing the town's mail bag out at the station and then, him snagging the bag of outgoing mail that was hanging from a special pole and arm near the tracks. The train didn't appear to slow down and the mail bag would tumble for some distance after it hit the ground.

The "orders" or changes in plan for the train crew were posted on little folded slips of paper, tied to a tight string on a wooden "Y" arm and the crew would grab those as the train went by. If there was time, the little wooden arm wood be placed on a special pole that was the correct height for the crew to reach. If the station guy was running late, he had a small wooden arm that he would just hold up with his hands, reaching high as the crew come by, allowing them to snag the message papers. The crew sometimes threw little message out the window of the train as they passed the station.

And long trains of cattle cars, moving cattle about the country. If the cattle were in for a long ride, they would sometimes pull into the siding in our town and unload them into huge pens for food and water. The cattle cars had wooden slat sides on them. Years later, our little town's railroad sidings were filled with cattle cars that were no longer used and they sat there for years, waiting to be hauled in to be scrapped. Haven't seen a cattle car on the railroad for more that 45 years now.

In those days, rail passengers could board a "local" and go to nearby towns for shopping and the "locals" would even stop and pick up or drop off passengers at highway crossings and farms in the country. Passengers could also choose the "express", which had right-of-way over other trains and only stopped in major cities. For travellers on the "locals", it was common to go into a siding and sit there for an extended time, waiting for the express to go blasting through. The "locals" often had standing room only and during the major holidays, extra trains were put on line to handle the extra passengers but even then, the trains were very crowded until the holiday was finished.

The porters and staff on the trains in those days were very, very pleasant. On the express trains, they paid particular attention to children, smuggling snacks from the dining and club cars to them and entertaining them. Every child knew that the staff were considered "friends". Time spent in the "club" car was always a good experience, as people mingled and talked and got to know each other. Games of cards on the tables, dice on the floor, alcohol and smoking were the norm. There were always plenty of people who couldn't sleep and opted to stay up all night in the club car, having more or less, a mini-party. I never saw a fight or serious argument in the club car. At six in the morning, the dining car opened for breakfast and the grills were loaded with fried eggs, hash-browned potatoes and bacon and sausages. There was a full service menu in those days for breakfast, lunch and dinner (supper). I always thought the morning coffee on the trains was superior. I can still recall walking into the dining car each morning and being greeted by the wonderful, strong aroma of that coffee.

The man was driving his car just a bit fast. As he crossed a long bridge, a trooper stepped away from the railing at the end of the bridge, aiming a radar gun at the moving car and then flagged the man to the side of the road.

"What's your hurry?, asked the cop.

"I'm late for work. I work at the hospital.", answered the driver.

"Are you a doctor?', the trooper asked.

The man replied, "I am a specialist. I actually specialize in stretching anuses. "

"Really!?" the cop asked. "How in the world do you do that?"

The man replied, "Well, it is really pretty easy. The anus is very pliable and you can pretty much make it do things that it didn't know it could do. I start by sticking one finger in there, and then two and then start widening and widening. At some point, it is wide enough and the job is done."

"My God, I have never heard such a thing! How big do they go?", asked the cop.

"Well, I have done as much as six feet before.", answered the man.

"SIX FEET!!!! What the hell would anyone with do with a six foot asshol_e!?!?."

Calmly, the man relied,

" They give him a radar gun and put him at the end of a bridge".

The article I saw said taller people, so it applies to both genders.

That makes sense. Taller people are closer to the sun, so they get more radiation.